Cause police never lie, always give the facts right away, don’t hide the cameras and police videos and totally protect and serve the community… I totally trust them saying “nothing to see here, move along, just a tragedy that he did to himself”…
The cops arrested him and then said social services was coming to take his son who was with him at the time. Then the cop was told the charges wouldn’t stick and still did it.
Oh shit something very similar to this happened to my mom once. She’s an older woman who lives alone and terrified of everything. Yes, she owns a gun.
One night ~ 2-3 am a man knocked on her door and demanded to be let in. She’s terrified, grabs the gun. He moved around to different doors, knocking and banging and yelling to be let in. He started shaking the door handles. My mom called 911 and was hiding in a bathroom. They asked her to just wait, police were on the way.
Finally she goes out, sees the guy at a window, and pointed the gun at him…but the gun has a laser pointer when you squeeze the handle. So she screamed back that the red dot on his chest was about to be where she was going to shoot him.
He ran off. Police show up, say they found the kid - 20 - drunkenly stumbling around the neighborhood. The bar had just closed and he thought he was at his friend’s house. A week later he sent her a $20 gift card to a local restaurant with a note that said “Thank you for not shooting me.”
The cops said if she had shot him, she would have been legally within her rights.
Agree or disagree with any or all of this, I’m sorry for the family of the person who was killed. It’s just a terrible situation all around.
While the woman was on the phone with police, Donofrio broke a glass window on the front door “and reached inside to manipulate the doorknob,” at which point the male resident fired the shot through the broken window, striking Donofrio in his upper body, police said.
The headline made me instantly rage (as intended). Reading the article made me reconsider. The real answer is to not have guns in the hands of the public. But then only criminals will have guns. Stfu.
So, you don’t want to kill them with a gun, you’d rather get up close and personal and bludgeon their face until they’re unrecognizable? Baseball bats are a deadly threat too, go attack someone with one and watch how fast you get an AWDW charge.
I think I heard on the radio that the homeowner was an old man, so I doubt he’d be capable of using a baseball bat against a college athlete. But I can’t find an article that says anything about his age.
I remember reading that statistically it isuch more likely that you kill a friend or family member with a gun than a home invader while trying to defend you’re home. Instead of worrying about hypothetical ‘what ifs’ that are very unlikely to happen maybe we should stay anchored in reality.
Goddamn, the United States really is a shithole country, isn’t it? It’s obvious that shooting was the homeowner’s first resort, because this was a drunk guy who thought that it was his own house. Any sign that it was not, like lights going on, or yelling, would have at least made him pause in confusion.
But yeah, Americans be like killing somebody before even issuing a threat is totally justified.
Drunk guy who broke the window trying to get in. Maybe it wasn’t clear this person was probably harmless and they panicked. Not sure why the people asleep in their home world be expected to flash the lights or whatever you are thinking is a normal middle of the night response to someone breaking into your home.
IDK, I don’t like guns for this exact reason. Too easy to end a life out of panic. But the drunk has the bulk of the responsibility here IMO.
From the article, it’s clear that their first resort was to call the police when he was banging and kicking on the door. The woman was on the phone with the police when he broke the window and attempted to open the door through the broken pane.
While the woman was on the phone with police, Donofrio broke a glass window on the front door “and reached inside to manipulate the doorknob,” at which point the male resident fired the shot through the broken window, striking Donofrio in his upper body, police said.
I am sorry but … if I am at home with my wife and kids and drunk stranger aggressively bangs and kicks the door, doesn’t stop when asked, smashes a window and reaches in to get in - I will probably also have my gun ready if the police doesn’t show up fast enough. Some people get super aggressive when drunk - some get confused and silly. There is definitely a difference.
Not American, I live in Europe. No I am not right wing.
Yeah, because drunk, unarmed people are such a threat, that you have to just shoot him.
As if in every other country we don’t have drunks…
Especially drunk people are mostly no threat. Even my grandma always said “oh, a drunk man has no strength”
It kinda sounds hyped up and hysterical from the outside, to be honest
Edit: ah, missed that you aren’t from the US. but still, you would shoot a drunk guy, just because you feel threatened?
There are so many possibilities to defend yourself, I can’t see a gun to be necessary - or even justified
As explained - there ar silly drunks and very aggressive drunks. The chance of this happening here is absolutely non existent and very theoretical. But yes if a very aggressive drunk is forcing his way into my home and not reacting to warnings and I determine him to be a threat to me or my family I totally would shoot him to protect my family - no question. Armed or not - - if he poses a threat the idea is not to be on the same level as him and fight fair …
If it’s just a silly non threatening drunk we can’t even see straight and poses no threat obviously not. This situation is not as easy as my fellow Europeans make it out to be - guess it’s just easier to flame the US.
You clearly are an idiot. I mean like you have zero understanding of anything other than cyberpunk paid expansions. You are a hate filled individual and you have only been here for 3 weeks? My lord are you alone? scared about who and what you are? A big sad fat turd?
Why can’t these assholes just go enjoy their Saturday like everyone else? Always worried about what other people are doing.
Don’t like drag shows? Don’t go! Go fishing or go see a movie. Go buy some Let’s Go Brandon flags. You can do whatever makes you happy as long as it doesn’t interfere with others right to do the same.
Hey, I resent that, I’m a miserable dork! Let’s call them precisely what they are: close minded, freedom-hating, mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, fascistic douche canoes.
Conservatism is bigotry, racism, homophobia, xenophobia, transphobia, antisemitism and generalized hate. Conservatives absolutely delight in the misery of the vulnerable.
Teach your children why good people don’t do business or keep relationships with conservatives. Marginalize hate by marginalizing the hate group.
What they said is a lie, anyways. Collective action is the core of worker power. “Mobility” is a feature of a low worker power environment where we aren’t able to extract our demands from our work places. Who would want to spend time looking for new jobs if we could just get good raises, advancement, and work life balance out of the jobs we’ve already got?
Don’t trust fortune.com to talk about worker issues honestly, it’s a rag for the other side of the equation.
Yeah, you can probably plot a graph that shows union membership declining at the same pace as ‘company loyalty’ or whatever. The job hopping phenomenon is largely caused by corporations themselves, who stopped giving raises and promotions and started doing regular layoffs.
Enter smoky dank bar. All patrons are Popo. Bike cops play pool. All four are white, clean shaven, and wearing helmets and aviators. Detectives are at a table with handlebar mustaches and lanyard badges. Beat cops in vests are jawjacking near the bar, that the commissioner in dress uniform is tending.
This would be an inversion of the Killing Floor novel. On the surface, this little town is terrible. Rampant police brutality, destitution, economic opportunities in the town frustrated by NIMBYs, a public easement to a national park is fenced up… Through pacifism, de-escalation, and empathy Snoop turns the town upside down. The town square is turned into a public garden, he provides therapy sessions to some of the police officers who are convinced to change jobs. When he finds out the national park isn’t accessible he helps a resident file an injunction in court against the properly owner, and by the end of the movie there is a vibrant tourism industry staffed by newly pacifist ex-cops.
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