Victim still got charged with a felony after spending 5 months incarcerated waiting for trial, and has to wait another month in jail to find out if the judge will overturn his final charge.
Self-described “Goon” still walking around on the streets getting paid for harassing and assaulting strangers. As a bonus, nearly doubled subscribers.
This case is exactly why DA’s level stack multiple felonies in these cases.
Jury: Well this is clearly self-defense, but he also probably pushed it too far so we don’t think he is innocent. Better just give him one felony.
For those that don’t know, the American courts have interpreted the constitutional “right to bear arms” as void for felons. This guy who was just acknowledged to have used his firearm in self-defense, is no longer allowed to own a firearm for his own protection.
This guy who was just acknowledged to have used his firearm in self-defense, is no longer allowed to own a firearm for his own protection.
Good. Because that wasn’t self-defense, and he clearly doesn’t know what situations are appropriate for lethal force. Neither his life nor property were in any danger.
You know that his life wasn’t in danger because you know it was a prank. The defender here did not have the benefit of that knowledge.
When someone nearly a foot taller with 50 more pounds of muscle gets in your face and starts accusing you of thinking about their private parts, then you get to decide if self-defense is necessary. The defender tried to get away from the aggressor multiple times and told him to stop multiple times, but the aggressor obviously kept engaging.
Do you think he should have waited until the giant started punching or kicking him before he decided to draw his weapon? Should he have tried to punch the giant instead of using the weapon he has? Do you think you could outrun someone taller and in better shape than you are?
If the defender had multiple self-defense options he might have chosen another, but all of this is arm-chair quarterbacking. We weren’t there and the person that was chose the only real defense option they had.
This situation is entirely the Goon’s fault. He should be the one facing charges. While it might be reasonable to recommend a self-defense course for the victim, my understanding is that he already followed good self-defense principles.
Edit: Also, since no one else is saying it, I will. If the victim happened to have been gay, the aggressor probably would have been charged with a hate crime. The goon was clearly accusing him of it.
There wasn’t a threat or posturing like a bar fight. There needs to be some actual positive evidence to be able to claim you fear for your life. Even cops make up those reasons.
Seems to me that people are just happy about the annoying guy getting shot for shitty behavior, and they’ll rationalize it however needed.
There wasn’t a threat or posturing like a bar fight. There needs to be some actual positive evidence to be able to claim you fear for your life.
You don’t need to fear for your life just your safety. Those guys cornered him up against the counter and then followed him when he tried to get away, despite repeated requests to stop.
Seems to me that people are just happy about the annoying guy getting shot for shitty behavior, and they’ll rationalize it however needed.
There are plenty in this post that would take that stance. However, I am not one of them, and nothing in my comments indicates otherwise.
The driver owning a gun is not a danger to random members of society. His actions clearly indicate he is willing to deescalate the situation and try to walk away before defending himself. Even when he did fire, he didn’t unload the chamber at the aggressor and his friend, he fired a single round while continuing to try and leave. It was the bare minimum for the weapon he had available.
At any point, the self-described “Goon” could have ended this hostile interaction by just standing still.
I think that is a reasonable stance, one I even mostly agree with. If any of the charges were misdemeanors, I might even have let that one through myself with time served and a request to take a firearm safety or self-defense course. However, I think the judge would still be having to decide whether to throw it out in a month.
However, once you say the self-defense is justified, trying to tack on additional charges is pretty unfair to the defendant. If he had another method of self-defense with him, he might have used it, but he only had the firearm and he used the minimum amount of force possible with that tool.
As I said below:
The driver owning a gun is not a danger to random members of society. His actions clearly indicate he is willing to deescalate the situation and try to walk away before defending himself. Even when he did fire, he didn’t unload the chamber at the aggressor and his friend, he fired a single round while continuing to try and leave. It was the bare minimum for the weapon he had available.
It would be pretty reasonable to lay the entire situation at the feet of the instigator. I will be interested to follow a civil case if the defendant attempts to sue the aggressor.
Last night, I tripped and busted my chin open and had go to my local ER. One of the nurses treating me was limping around room-to-room treating patients despite breaking her foot that morning. Came to work anyways. Workers don’t just deserve better, they need better.
I wonder how long it’ll take them to realize that they have to live on the planet they’re destroying too. Hurricanes, droughts, forest fires, etc don’t give a shit about property value and destroy everything in their path. Sure, the boomers will check out before things get unbearable but there’s a lot of very rich people in their 40s and 50s that will live long enough to suffer with the rest of us.
It will take them a lot longer, since they are completely disconnected from the average person's experience. Even those currently in their 40s aren't going to suffer during their lifetime.
The thing is tough, their lifestyle depends on the average person’s experience. The rich people aren’t the ones laboring to make fast cars, high definition TVs, building houses, refining fuel, working at power plants, farming, ranching, and all the other things that their lifestyle depends on.
They just sit on top and collect the cash. When life gets bad for the people on the bottom those on top will have nothing, because despite what they try to say they’ve never really worked a day in their life and they sure as hell aren’t going to roll up their sleeves and do the dirty work themselves. It’s a pyramid of playing cards and when the bottom falls out the whole thing will collapse.
The fediverse have a better incentive to keep itself spam free. Our platforms are not driven by "attention retaining" and "user engagement", or at least until ads are not coming here.
It would be interesting to see Lemmy communities that pay u to see their ads. We really need to make sure communities don’t decide to fund themselves with ads. It will be a whole new game of doing what the current companies are doing thus i hope the fediverse if nothing gives us competition.
Normally I counter such false equivalencies by stating the obvious “It’s possible to care about more than one thing at a time.”, but in this case, nobody actually cares about the “crisis” at the border (not even Republicans) because it is a manufactured talking point that doesn’t require any action. It’s just an easy scapegoat to point to when the right wants to distract from whatever other untenable position they are currently losing ground in.
I’ve survived more than a dozen “Migrant caravan” armageddon events complete with 24/7 news coverage about how life as we know it in America is coming to an end because the brown man is here to steal my job and fuck my sister or whatever. Every time it goes away quietly because adding a few hundred illegals who manage to slip by the fence never makes a significant impact on anything anywhere.
People do care. The stupid cultists who believe all that Republican bullshit. The ones that eat up Newsmax and Fox News.
It’s so stupid. Anyone who actually has paid attention over the last 20 years knows that maybe the only thing that has changed is you hear Ranchero playing at construction sites instead of Country. Seriously, how have they impacted anyone’s life. They take the shit jobs no one else is taking for the shit pay no one wants to apply for. It’s not like there’s a ton of people looking for jobs right now. Unemployment is low.
Certainly car loans can be predatory, and it is worth improving oversight, limiting what loan providers are allowed to offer. While I’ve seen plenty of people in trouble with car loans, it was always predictable/likely and my first thought had been how could a loan provider have approved that. I’m sorry if people are desperate for transportation and short of options but it’s not helpful to offer rates like credit cards, nor roll over previous loans, nor offer loans at high percentages of people’s incomes
I posted this story in politics from another source a few days ago and it was removed because apparently the source wasn’t good enough and people couldn’t find it anywhere else. It was the only source reporting it at the time, but ok then.
edit: guess it was farther back than I remember, here’s that article from ~3 weeks ago
Musk got sued? Yeah, probably one out of the hundreds of lawsuits that bozo sees every day, and he’s going to weasel his way out of this too, because he is stinking rich.
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