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Draegur ,

This classification system is deeply flawed but one of the most obvious ways is failing to recognize that quiche is an arbitrarily over specific example of what its category should ACTUALLY be called, which is obviously PIE.

PIZZA IS PIE TOO. The crust puffing up elevated at the edges contains the ingredients within.

And in this case, a stuffed crust pizza is indeed a PIE SURROUNDED BY A CALZONE.

Alternatively surrounded by a burrito.

Lodespawn ,

Wouldn’t stuffed crust be toast surrounded by sushi?

meekah ,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

if you’re looking at the whole pizza pie, the crust doesn’t have open sides so it’s a calzone. if you’re looking at a single slice, it’s sushi.

stratosfear ,

Til cutting a pizza turns bread into fish

Draegur ,

then again, this is a a loop-shaped calzone… topologically, a torus. the chart doesn’t even have an entry for that, but i’m ok with provisionally classifying it as a calzone

Lodespawn ,

I feel like the chart needs a torus entry like some kind of filled doughnut, but I also think a rolled, filled torus is closer to a sushi roll than a calzone. I think everyone is just settling on calzone because we are talking about pizza and ignoring the structure and shape which is what this is about. How does a torus fit into the cube rule anyway? You can only consider it as the base structure which is a tube, ie sushi.

beefcat ,
@beefcat@beehaw.org avatar

the stuffed crust is prepared as a calzone but becomes sushi once the pizza is sliced.

daemoz ,

This was my exact assessment. I like how u think

dpkonofa ,

I just questioned this elsewhere and am in full agreement. Should be a pie.

MonkderZweite ,

which is obviously PIE tart.

Draegur ,

psh, YOU’RE a tart. :p

Kase ,

What’s your opinion on thin-crust pizza? Is it toast? I feel like it’s toast.

Draegur ,

you know what, yeah actually, i think i agree with that too!

sukhmel ,

Your comment makes me think that we’re missing (at least) one of configurations on the diagram, the one where two bases are perpendicular to each other. A slice of pizza will have that configuration, but I am too culinary-challenged to imagine anything else by that shape to name it after 🤔

ImTryingLemmy ,

So a poorly wrapped burrito is sushi but a properly wrapped one is a calzone. th’fuck?

Tylerdurdon ,

Damnit, someone got to the burrito logic before I did…

TexasDrunk ,

That’s how I’m referring to it from now on. I just need to know what I call Arepas.

flipflop97 ,
@flipflop97@feddit.nl avatar

And if you start eating a properly wrapped one, it turns into a quiche 🤔

joelfromaus ,
@joelfromaus@aussie.zone avatar

I don’t make the rules.

CannedTuna ,

A taquito is sushi

clearleaf ,

If you don’t like science go live in the woods.

tigeruppercut , (edited )

Language is use, nerds. It ain’t a sandwich.

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/5cf4a739-1668-498f-94ee-1172893f305f.webp

Tlaloc_Temporal ,

I would find it a tad odd to refer to a hotdog as simply a sandwich, because we have a more precise and common word for it, but I would understand nonetheless.

Not just because of this debate, but also because when you use the ingredients separately you get weiner sandwiches and hot dog bun sandwiches.

It would be odd to call champagne wine, but still understandable. Same for calling a lava lamp an incandescent light. Actually, this would probably work for lots of genericized tradmarks, like jello, bandaid, dumpster, zamboni, kleenex, zipper, velcro, and so on.

sukhmel ,

Well, in the case when a table is empty except for the hotdog sandwich in question, I would maybe understand. But I imagine myself to be quite dumbfounded with such a naming

Tlaloc_Temporal ,

At this point, it’s pretty hard to find a natural opinion on hotdogs as sandwiches sunce everyone has heard of the great sandwich debate, but I don’t think it’s a big leap. I think calling a hamburger a sandwich is about as weird, for example.

bad_alloc ,

Since bread cannot be attached to language in any orientable way, you are right: It ain’t a sandwich, it’s a salad!

aegis_sum ,

canoli = sushi

Bigtiddygothgrany ,

Big Mac = cake

Afghaniscran ,

Lasagne = cake

Willy ,

This one I can get behind. A delicious cheesy noodle tomato meat cake. Yumm.

rustydomino ,
@rustydomino@lemmy.world avatar

The cake is a lie.

Allero ,

A slice of pizza is, indeed, a toast! With a lot of stuff on top.

DAMunzy ,

The crust makes it a pie!!

ForgotAboutDre ,

According to this diagram it makes it a quiche. The definition should be a tart, a quiche is a savoury custard tart.

That would make the pizza a tart.

A pie would be a calzone according to this diagram.

dpkonofa ,

Is a pie a type of quiche or did the OP choose too narrowly? Is a quiche a type of pie? Should they be reversed?

Allero ,

The hardened browned crumb of a toast is, essentially, a small crust! That’s how pies get it too!

PIE IS A TOAST!!!

DAMunzy ,

Noooooo!

SexyTimeSasquatch ,

I would argue that according to this diagram, stuffed crust is in fact a sushi tube connecting to itself in a circle around the pizza.

themusicman ,

Certainly sushi if it’s just a slice

kboy101222 ,

Hear me out -

It’s a ring torus with a a different substance inside.

It’s a filled donut.

Mok98 ,

No hole in the middle, filled donut stuck to a toast maybe?

kboy101222 ,

Yeah, I’d agree. It’s definitely 2 different things going off the cube rule

Gladaed ,

Stuffed crust is actually sushi tho.

meekah ,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

only in a single slice. if we’re looking at the whole pizza pie, it’s a calzone in a circle around a toast.

BluesF ,

I don’t believe that a torus is homeomorphic to a cube, so in fact the stuffed crust is not adequately explained by the cube model. We can approximate the stuffed crust by modelling either as sushi or calzone and receive adequate results.

InputZero ,

The sushi model is more robust as it more accurately defines the thermal dynamics of the stuffed crust system. A calzone model includes closed off face, while the faces can be pinched to an infinitesimal point to create a stuffed crust like pizza. Those faces still introduce a thermal graduate to the cheese and won’t replicate the results of when we cook our awesome pizza. If instead we permit the sushi model to exist in non-eucludian space we can accurately define a stuffed crust pizza with the sushi model by bending our dimensions. As a result of this the cheese-face interface is better described however it also must exclude the calzone model for describing a stuffed crust pizza.

Thank you for coming to my bullshit TED talk.

BluesF , (edited )

I realise that we have thus far only considered the crust as a separate entity, which is of course toroidal (and for which we should evidently add a new form to the model for - I would propose the ‘doughnut’), however the full pizza with a stuffed crust is not - it has no hole. By compressing the centre of a calzone until the top and bottom faces meet we reach the full stuffed crust pizza. Perhaps we’ve been wrong all along…

InputZero ,

By George I think you have it! Using radial coordinates and a calzone model a pizza is toast but a stuffed crust pizza is a calzone. How could I have never seen this before?! It’s brilliant!

jonsnothere ,

I guess the question is whether or not the exposed sides are integral to sushi or not, and I think they are. It’s like the ‘how many holes does a straw have’ all over again Edit: nevermind they said slice. So yes, definitely sushi. Although the jury is still out on a full stuffed crust pizza, or a jelly filled donut for that matter.

NigelFrobisher ,

A Big Mac is a cake.

Vaginal_blood_fart ,

Or a club

chocosoldier ,

I came in here to say this

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

any burger with more than one pattie is a meat cake. There are meat based pies, so of course there can be meat based cakes too.

june ,

I think stuffed crust is sushi attached to toast

elrik ,

I was thinking the same, but then realized it’s probably just quiche.

SinkingLotus ,
@SinkingLotus@lemmy.world avatar

A stuffed crust pizza would be a calzone only when it’s still yet to be cut into slices.

The moment a slice is removed from the whole would be when it becomes sushi.

Tja ,

The image specifically talks about a slice 🍕

nul ,

Everyone in this thread ignoring that sushi refers to the style and preparation of the rice. The rolled sushi is maki, literally “to roll.”

Tlaloc_Temporal ,

Everyone in this thread is ignoring a lot, mostly that vastly different preparation methods van make the same structure, and the same method vastly different structures. Like pasta, which category you get depends on exactly what kind you have.

LKPU26 ,

Lasagne is cake?

Strayce ,

Bolognese flavoured cake with bechamel icing.

nulluser ,

As are Big Macs.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Always as been

Notyou ,

That’s my big take away from this.

carl_the_grackle ,

cuberule.com

jonsnothere ,

So a Big Mac is cake?

Mok98 ,

Absolutely

PresidentCamacho ,

Club sandwich? Actually cake.

bad_alloc ,

Welcome to topology where your mug is a toroid and the orientation matters a lot.

BananaPeal ,
@BananaPeal@sh.itjust.works avatar

So Subway sells tacos? You learn something new every day.

dpkonofa ,

I feel like taco is too specific and that there is a better word that covers tacos and submarines. I just can’t come up with the word…

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