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LaserTurboShark69 , in [CW: Image might be considered by some as mildly sexual] Liberals getting their daily those of propaganda

Does the CIA only feed propaganda to liberals?

PresidentCamacho , (edited ) in What keeps capitalism together?

Our tax money when they inevitably screw a whole market over. So socialism

Edit: you all think I’m shitting on socialism, when I guess I was failing to tie together how capitalists will enjoy socializing their loses, but never socializing benefits to society.

DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

Socialism is not the government giving money to capitalists. It is not paying for the cops to get tanks. It is not having an army.

It is not even universal healthcare. That is just a government service you’ve been gaslit into thinking is socialism.

Socialism is the workers owning the means of production. End.

Now, if the government had bailed out the financial firms or car manufacturers and turned them into worker co-ops, maybe that would be socialism, but they didn’t.

cobra89 ,

How does that work when all of the production happens in other countries now? Is there some scenario where we have a socialist white collar economy? All the rhetoric surrounding Communism fits a blue collar economy where production is still the key driver of the economy. Most “1st world” economies these days are service economies not production economies. Is there some literature on how Communism fits in with a service economy?

dcluna ,

Commenting just to get a notification in case someone answers your question - definitely interested in this angle

DragonTypeWyvern ,

The answer is why the fascists turned “globalism” into a dogwhistle. It’s quite simple: You don’t do that. You liberate those workers too, through whatever means work.

Socialism is by necessity a globalist ideology. It doesn’t do your commune any real good if you buy all your necessities from a slave labor camp.

An injury to one is an injury to all, workers of the world unite, etc etc etc. You must reject the principles of nationalism, or at least principles of non-interference, or you end up merely outsourcing the exploitation.

Sarcasmo220 ,

Owning the means of production can also be seen as owning the business collectively. So in a service model business, like say a restaurant, instead of the owner taking in profits and paying the workers less money, all the workers split those profits evenly.

Cowbee ,
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Communism can only be truly global. You can have worker coops in a servive economy, which is a form of Socialism, but depending on the production outsourced in Capitalist manners means the economy overall contributes to global Capitalism, which can eventually take on the character of Imperialism.

Most 1st world economies are in fact Imperialist, they cannot exist in the manner they do without hyper-exploitation of the global south.

PresidentCamacho ,

I’m pro social programs, I just spoke poorly. “Socialism for me but not for thee” was what I should have said

ickplant , in nothing like pushy maniacs to make my day complete
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My husband went to a conference 2 weeks ago in Florida. Blue collar industry, no one is vaccinated, no one wearing a mask. He came home and immediately had Covid (we are both vaccinated). I got it too. Motherfuckers. Oh, and if he wore a mask there is a very serious chance he’d be shunned at work, which we can’t afford.

Fizz , in I hope my displeasure isn't too obvious
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I do this when eating food I don’t like and I used to be a very fussy eater. I was at my friends house and she cooked food and I was forcing it down to be polite and she asked if I liked the food. I said yeah its really good and she burst out laughing because apparently my face looked like I was eating a war head. She said I can tell when you don’t like something because you always scrunch your face. Apparently I used to do it in conversations as well.

umbrella , in What keeps capitalism together?
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our willingness to tolerate it

WalrusDragonOnABike , in I hope my displeasure isn't too obvious

Don’t worry, I’m probably not looking at your face anyways.

Zagorath , in this is the uzi bicycler with another episode of wheeled justice
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This guy got real !fuckcars energy.

Fades , in I’d vote for the bear any day

Still beating this dumb fucking dead horse?

explodicle ,

Are you upset by anything involving bears now?

Fades ,

Just over it, it’s not interesting or funny to me hence my comment. Nowhere did I express anything resembling being upset. You’re just projecting the stance you perceive as my truth without any evidence to that effect.

explodicle ,

Over what?

Fades ,

You know what, my friend. Just let it go, like the dead meme you’re defending

explodicle ,

The bear in city hall meme?

doingthestuff , in this is the uzi bicycler with another episode of wheeled justice

I live in a semi-rural area, but just about every old man I know is packing

Numenor ,

Why are they so afraid?

thesporkeffect ,

Racism

doingthestuff ,

Honestly it’s more wealth and fear of the poor people.

shalafi ,

How odd that it’s only old men! Being that minorities, women and LGBT people are the largest gun buying demographic, you would think they’d be carrying as well.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Semi-rural

doingthestuff ,

I understand your sentiment but please don’t put words in my mouth. The topic of the meme was old men, I talked about old men. I know lots of women and minorities and other disenfranchised groups that are armed as well. And young men, but honestly few demographics are more armed than old men in my arsa. Also I have lived in many different places than where I’m living now.

RebekahWSD , in nothing like pushy maniacs to make my day complete
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I like wearing a mask, I don’t get told to smile anymore

Wait no

One guy did tell me to smile more when I had a mask on. I stared at him. Baffled. He seemed to realize he was being stupid and just fucking booked it.

bjoern_tantau ,
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Smiling doesn’t just involve shaping your lips into an upwards arch. Usually your eyes are involved as well. This can be seen even when you’re wearing a mask over your mouth.

:-) vs ^_^

RebekahWSD ,
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I wasn’t looking directly at him and had fogged eyeglasses (major drawback of masks, how dare they and glasses do that) so it was overall weird!

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

Why did you explain this?

bjoern_tantau ,
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Because the comment implied that smiles couldn’t be seen with a mask on.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

Maybe not. Maybe it implied how fucking obnoxious it is to comment on other people’s bodies without being asked.

bjoern_tantau ,
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True, didn’t think of that.

Diplomjodler3 , in I hope my displeasure isn't too obvious

I am in this picture and I don’t like it.

altima_neo , in CHEESE CAVES!
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I bet it smells so feety in there

Track_Shovel OP ,

And cheese farts

Zerush , in What keeps capitalism together?
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Greed along with the lack of scruples

Imgonnatrythis , in this is the uzi bicycler with another episode of wheeled justice

Good luck forgetting you are in America

PunnyName , in What keeps capitalism together?

Wat

Cowbee ,
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What’s unclear?

PunnyName ,

What concessions?

Cowbee ,
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Any kinds of social programs, generally, are concessions.

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