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PunnyName , in What keeps capitalism together?

Wat

Cowbee ,
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What’s unclear?

PunnyName ,

What concessions?

Cowbee ,
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Any kinds of social programs, generally, are concessions.

BirdyBoogleBop , in What keeps capitalism together?

What are they conceding exactly?

JohnDClay ,

I thought it was taking about concession stand concessions, and was really confused as to how they were vital to the bourgeois patching capitalism. Now I’m more confused.

BachenBenno ,

Things that benefit the working class: Labor protection, minium wages, free education, etc. Without these things greater profits would be made. And every capitalist country slowly removes these benefits until major uprisings.

Chainweasel ,

And every capitalist country slowly removes these benefits until major uprisings.

We figured out a long time ago that there’s only two things people need in order to keep them happy:
Bread and Circuses.
As long as people have food on their table and a source of entertainment you can take everything else away and they’ll be content enough to not revolt.
But it’s important to not take everything else away at once either, that’s why they chisel away at them until only those two are left.

Cowbee ,
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That’s not entirely true.

Capitalism itself is unsustainable, so as time goes on, the temp rises towards the boiling point. Bread and circuses delay this boiling point, but do not stop it. As long as the temperature continues to rise, so to speak, so too will the boiling point be approached.

Xantar , in What keeps capitalism together?

Need more context, pal.

Cowbee ,
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Wage Labor and Capital is a good start.

Zehzin ,
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I will never read theory, stop trying to make me read theory

Cowbee ,
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mojofrododojo , in nothing like pushy maniacs to make my day complete

Two of my distant in-laws both got covid last week and are… gutting through it. Neither have had boosters, neither wear masks even though they both have wide ranges of significant health issues.

taiyang , in CHEESE CAVES!

Oh man, I love 1991s MSDos platformer Cheeze Caves. Apobee went on to make Nuke Dukem, Kommander Clean, and Wolfenstain 3D.

PolandIsAStateOfMind , in nothing like pushy maniacs to make my day complete
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Fades , in It's honestly impressive how many areas they negatively affect

Fuck meat eaters unironically, your precious (inhumane and disgusting) meat farms have absolutely fucked the environment. Thanks for that

Wooki ,

Praise the lord.

shiftymccool ,

Fuck all humans for breeding to the point where meat farming is necessary. Eating animals isn’t the problem, it’s the SCALE at which we do it. Put blame where it’s due

explodicle ,

BS, it’s not necessary at all

blurryface ,

You all motherfuckers know deep in your hearts that humanity can’t survive this shit without a couple billion dying off. It’d be better if those couple billion were never born.

There’s no sustainable living without sustainable reproduction. But that’s even more taboo than everyone going vegan/vegetarian.

OurToothbrush ,

Oh look ecofascism

blurryface ,

The definition of fascism isn’t „things I don’t like”.

OurToothbrush , (edited )

Name 5 scholarly works you’ve read on fascism, or 3 on ecofascism specifically.

In other words: I have a lot of knowledge about this shit. The overpopulation myth is tied to fascism at the hip. You’ve integrated fascist propaganda into your worldview if you think overpopulation is the issue.

P1nkman ,

I’ve never heard about the overpopulation myth is tied to fascism. Got any more information or sources on this? Cheers, bud.

OurToothbrush ,

You can just Google “overpopulation ecofascism” and the first few results in normal and scholar mode are pretty good (the former for well cited intros, the latter for more in depth stuff on the topic)

Honytawk ,

Any ideology that incorporates vying for genocide is pretty close to fascism.

triplenadir ,
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two downvoters are very upset at the idea of reading I guess

OurToothbrush ,

Probably just my tone, or felt unpleasant at the idea that they’ve integrated fascist ideas into their worldviews.

AnarchoBolshevik ,
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Just out of curiosity, are you somebody who lurks /c/capitalismindecay?

OurToothbrush ,

Nope! I’ll check it out.

AnarchoBolshevik ,
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How is it?

shiftymccool ,

Oh look, a buzzword

OurToothbrush ,

Ecofascism is a legit problem, people in the US would rather have unsustainable lifestyles than not commit genocide.

shiftymccool ,

This. Tell people to not eat meat and hear the cries of agreement. Tell people to stop having kids and all of a sudden you’re another Hitler.

explodicle ,

Gee I wonder why

gdog05 ,

Damn, Thanos! We are overpopulated, I agree. But human numbers have always (and I do mean always, as long as we’ve been able to track it) adjusted to the sustainability of their environment given all but the most dire of economic factors that might affect that. Right now, we’re seeing a rapid decline in children being born throughout the world. Just because it doesn’t happen on a particular time table doesn’t mean it’s not correcting itself.

MBM ,

Factory farming is extremely cost-efficient, so I don’t think the free market would give you anything else regardless of how many people there are. Laws and environment tax would.

velxundussa ,

Lab grown meat is more efficient, but some place are already outlawing it before it’seven available commercially… So I’m not too sure about the direction we’re going.

pingveno ,

It will be more efficient eventually, just not yet. The technology isn’t mature yet. But as you’ve noted, those “pro-free market” Floridians and Alabamans want to ban it, because global elites and eating bugs or something.

Honytawk ,

Relax, even those places will turn around when it becomes commercially available and cheaper than regular meat.

It is nothing but a political statement to draw in conservatives.

Fades ,

True, humanity is a goddamn cancer I’m glad you understand

Jokes aside, your opinion is bullshit. Meat is not a requirement it is a PREFERENCE

NigelFrobisher , in nothing like pushy maniacs to make my day complete

They’re turning the frogs gay!

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SternburgExport , in nothing like pushy maniacs to make my day complete

I felt so sorry for retail workers when I read a sign on a store that said they weren’t the ones making the rules and harassing them over it will result in a ban.

I couldn’t even imagine the shit they’ve been through at this point.

TheFriendlyDickhead ,

Regulary remember the guy that got shot, because he would deny service to a guy, who wouldn’t wear his mask

Nythos ,

I had a chair thrown at me at work because I told a father he couldn’t pull said chair up to the table because they were all replaced specifically to be 2m away and they weren’t allowed to be changed.

Xanis ,

Told off an old guy who was waiting in line at a grocery store during covid. I was directly behind him. This fuck actually had the audacity to call the store from the line, request a manager, and then told that manager over the phone that they had better do something about it or he would.

Made it my purpose to piss him off after that.

SternburgExport ,

I couldn’t even imagine being this entitled.

Gork , in CHEESE CAVES!

Being here is good if you’re in a boss fight and you need to eat entire wheels of cheese to restore HP.

TimeNaan ,

I wish that worked irl

loaExMachina , in CHEESE CAVES!

Idk, I’ve heard government cheese was mid.

theangryseal ,

All I know is that I long for it for some damn reason. As an Appalachian kid with too little to eat, that shit was heaven. I don’t know if it was just because I was hungry, but I was sad to see it go.

This made me think of something else too.

My mom used to stop at a gas station, send me in first with a food stamp dollar to buy a .05 cent piece of gum. My brother would do the same thing, then we’d drive down to the next station and do it again. Finally, at the third station we’d come to the car and give my mom the change. Once we were done, she could afford enough gas to go visit my aunt and my cousins.

Once the EBT card came out that was over for poor folks.

People would stand outside of gas stations and stop people, “hey bro, I’ll buy you two twelve packs of soda for two bucks. You can get a candy bar too.” They usually end up trespassed. The smart ones would sell the cards for half their value (smart? I know) so they didn’t get banned from stores.

Working in a gas station in Appalachia I seen a number of people open their wallets and have several EBT cards.

Leg ,

Thanks for the share! This is an interesting experience to hear about.

smegger , in nothing like pushy maniacs to make my day complete

If there’s one thing the pandemic has made clear, it’s that there’s a lot of crazy assholes out there.

jaybone ,

And not enough toilet paper.

NigelFrobisher , in I’d vote for the bear any day

Smarter than the average bear.

paws , in CHEESE CAVES!
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You would die thirsty.

Aurenkin ,

Melt the cheese then drink it

EtherWhack ,
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Like drinking sea water

peteypete420 ,

I can assure you sea water tastes nothing like melted cheese.

EtherWhack ,
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It’s the salt content. Cheese can cause or worsen dehydration via hypernatremia, just like sea water

Lath , in CHEESE CAVES!

Dunno. People have been crushed to death by cheese wheels. Not sure if any of them had a smile on their face at the time.

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