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Colour_me_triggered , in Lemmy might, MIGHT have a small bias towards the left

The problem is that a middle class, can only be a middle class if it’s in between an upper class and a lower class. It’s in the name: MIDDLE class.

wewbull ,

There will always be a distribution of wealth. The key thing is how broad that distribution is.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, there’s no problem with a meritocracy as long as the top and the bottom of the gradient aren’t (literally can’t pay bills -> more money than you could ever spend.)

Like in no sane world would people willingly become surgeons for the same pay as a sanitation worker, that’s just fucking stupid. Why spend a decade going through school to be a doctor when you could just go pick up trash and make the same money? We have to have some kind of variation in pay scale or society wouldnt function.

Like you said, how much difference between the top and the bottom definitely doesn’t have to be what it is.

dessel ,

Yeah but in the current form of meritocracy both the surgeon and the sanitation worker are relatively poor compared to the upper class. And that exactly is the problem: you cant get rich just by working.

benjiman ,

Assuming that the education could be free, why wouldn’t you expect people to train as surgeons?

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

I think it’s funny that some people think that if they wouldn’t do it themselves then no one would.

SCB ,

I currently make more money than the average surgeon does in the UK, and it isn’t close. Top end is like 130k for them.

People will still be doctors if you cut the pay doctors get, because they are, elsewhere, right now.

TreadOnMe ,
@TreadOnMe@hexbear.net avatar

The problem is that the ‘middle class’ doesn’t exist. It is a series of cultural affectations, that do not apply to the majority that supposedly make up ‘the middle class’. If the ‘middle class’ can or can’t make up welders pulling 55 hours a week on overtime and an accountant working 40 hours a week, then the distinction is arbitrary. That is why Marxist distinctions of class are superior. They are dictated instead by your relationship to your means of production, and how you acquired the rights to that relationship.

Decompose , in Lemmy might, MIGHT have a small bias towards the left

“Uncorrupt government”

This is as delusional as anyone can get.

A wise man said it all once: “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

Honytawk ,

That is why we throw them out every couple of years and choose someone different.

I do the same with my underpants.

Egon ,
@Egon@hexbear.net avatar

Yet you still have shit between your asscheeks

Decompose ,

Right… you do understand that most politicians in western countries are career politicians that have been there for decades, right?

A good example is Biden himself. He’s been there in politics for like 50 years. It’s a geriatric club at this point it’s become a common joke.

Same delusion as the poster of the meme. People believe in the same ideals that created the problem without looking at what it has become. Not everything that sounds good is good. Life is more complex than the simple model that simple people keep believing in. People will always find a way to abuse a system for their own benefit. That’s the result of “power corrupts”.

Honytawk ,

I don’t care about your US politics. It is a shitshow no matter how you look at it, with your undemocratic gerrymandering and 2 party oligarchy.

With voting it is at least possible to change the government. The same can not be said about corporations.

DauntingFlamingo ,

My underpants are also corrupt

okiloki ,

So you bought then back in June 1933 and didn’t have the heart to throw them out?

TheFogan ,

would be nice, but doesn’t seem to really happen, (incumbancy advantage). Also the bigger problem that isn’t solved by voting them out or even term limits. Access to money is important to win an election. Same people have money, those people pick candidates that are loyal and see to it that they win. When one old corrupt politician dies we’ll get a new one pushed by the corporate media.

bouh ,

Oh so pragmatism would have that we abandon any hope at equality and we should accept to be slaves for the rich?

Decompose ,

I don’t get why the only solution is to trust others to take care of you. I have some bad news: No one gives a crap about you. The sooner you realize this the better. You should be responsible and learn more on how to manage your assets, investments, money, etc. In my opinion, this idea that we have to keep trusting the elite to run our lives is ridiculous. People should be more responsible and manage their money in an independent way.

I like cryptocurrency for this, because I have full control on my money and no government will be able to rehypothecate my money for whatever risky nonsense they’re doing. But you don’t have to be like me or like cryptocurrency. All you have to do is start thinking of a solution that works for you. You can start saving now, diversify in the world economy, and take risks that are appropriate to you, and prepare for your retirement. No need to act as if you have zero power when there are enough tools to give you power over your own money.

I’m the kind of guy that takes all my matters into my own hands, because I trust no one. I even run my email server, my cloud, my VPNs, my everything. I don’t need anyone, company or government, and I have calculated risks in all my endeavour. I can migrate whenever I want. I believe everyone in the world should strive towards that. But we’re living in a centralized world where google alone can just block almost everyone’s life. I’m not in that club.

regalia ,

I don’t get why the only solution is to trust others to take care of you.

Society is built around people “taking care” of you in different ways. Like being a doctor, a teacher, an employer, the police, etc.

That’s why we grew out of being caveman, because we’re built to be cooperative with each other in our DNA. If we didn’t, we’d either be small tribes or individuals and probably die out really fast. It’s because we need others to rely on or we’d literally be extinct.

Decompose ,

I don’t think you understand what trust means. There’s almost zero trust with doctors, teachers, etc. You don’t trust doctors out of the blue, but you build an informed decision from the reviews of such a doctor by seeing if they’re good at what they do. This hunky dory delusion that everyone trusts everyone is not real. The doctor, teacher, etc, will be punished if they misbehave and that’s what the free market is about. Keeping them in line as a kind of incentive to behave well.

On the other hand, what you guys want to do is hand all your wealth and power to elites that don’t give two craps about you, have zero consequences in the case they mess up, and have zero incentive to do the right thing (as opposed to make it look like they’re doing the right thing), and then expect them to not steal your hard earned money, and then cry about it when they do it. Well, guess what? I don’t trust the fed has my best interest when they printed 80% of the US dollar money supply over the last 3 years. Why should I store my wealth in USD? Now you go ahead and trust them and do that, and keep complaining on lemmy that the rich are getting richer (NOT because of the printing) when someone tries to talk sense into you. I guess everyone will pay for their decisions after all.

Honytawk ,

Doctors are doctors because they passed their doctorate.

Someone more knowledgeable than you set the minimum bar of skill they require to practice their craft.

You don’t get to make trust based decisions on doctors because you don’t know what a good doctor looks like. You lack the knowledge to do so. Unless you are yourself a doctor.

I have even less trust in corporations than the government.

If you let those, they would bring slavery back if they could. Since that improves their bottom line.

Decompose ,

Dude everything you said is wrong… doctors don’t have doctorates… PhDs do. Also you didn’t invalidate my point, which is that trust isn’t blind. You sound like a teenager. When you grow up you’ll understand what accountability means and how governments have none.

SCB ,

An MD is literally a doctorate

In general, there are three categories of doctorate degrees that apply to the health professions: the professional doctorate, the clinical doctorate, and the research doctorate. In the science-based professional doctorate, the M.D. and D.O are the most well known.

Honytawk ,

So not only do you have no idea what you are talking about, you also fall back to ad hominem fallacies because you are unable to debunk the stuff I said.

Your knowledge is lacking, so your opinion on who you can trust is worthless.

You sound like a science-denying anti-vaxxer.

Decompose ,

You sound like a teenager. We can talk after you finish high school.

Honytawk ,

“If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.”

~Carl Sagan

You will always have people taking care of you, from the clothes you wear to the things you eat. There is no escape.

Not even by living on your own are you not using other peoples knowledge or products.

Decompose , (edited )

What kind of logic is that? You’re confusing “taking care of you” with “making trades”. My life doesn’t depend on one person making clothes for me. I can switch them whenever I want, unlike your monopoly government, or Google for that matter.

Franzia ,

A leftie who tells you the government can be “uncorrupt” deserves all the laughter you can aim at them.

SteveXVII ,

Uncorrupt is impossible, maybe it is better to advocate for low levrls of corruption. Less corruption --> less damage.

PerCarita ,
@PerCarita@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I’ve seen this sentiment being repeated in the replies, yet this also applies to private companies that are run by absolutely powerful people. It’s true that Lord Acton wrote this about the monarchy, but some execs in multinational corporations today are just as powerful as old-timey monarchs.

Decompose ,

I don’t disagree with you. My contention is that the assumption of “uncorrupt power” is just naive and short term, at best.

TimewornTraveler ,

cliches are lame

TrismegistusMx , in *patriotic guitar twangles*
@TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world avatar
Bizarroland ,
@Bizarroland@kbin.social avatar

And unfortunately he's also a pretty damn good singer.

Like my hackles were up the whole time I was listening to the song because I knew this is some sort of like Republican redneck protest song against the liberals, but at the same time I had to admit the guy can fucking sing and it was a good song.

We really need to step up our protest song game.

baldingpudenda ,

Yeah that first verse about how we struggle, etc. I was very interested. Then look out for miners, not minors…oook easy dunk, we can all get behind protecting kids. Then the welfare thing. Oh it’s republican talking points not a new uprising of classic country like Cash

RomeCallen ,

You need to get out there and look.

Lots of revolutionary music being made, just not made by industry plants and boosted by bullshit

Tho he is a good singer, the song was basic

dan1101 ,

Tyler Childers is the good version of this guy.

Franzia ,

The song on youtube does seem to have recorded much greater pipes than he actually has live in person.

Franzia ,

Burnin sherman

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Fit For An Autopsy has been around for a while my dude. Look them up.

iforgotmyinstance ,

AJJ aka Andrew Jackson Jihad has been around making protest songs for awhile.

Scooter411 ,
@Scooter411@lemmy.ml avatar

I love AJJ, they are a mainstay on my playlists. Their songs are good to great in the lyrics department. But musically they’re not super amazing. Their lead singer also has not a great singing voice. I don’t think any of their songs could be called “catchy” - and none of them are going to get the attention this guy’s song did, and a big part of that is their songs aren’t as good - again, simply from a music standpoint.

Blank ,

Check out David Dondero - The Filter Bubble Blues.

TrismegistusMx ,
@TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world avatar
bdonvr ,

Oh that’s absolutely v i l e

And not just the highlighted one

TrismegistusMx ,
@TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sure you can read between the lines and know exactly what voices he’s been listening to.

reev , in Pov: you are a Lemmy user

I love the irony of using a reddit meme here

ch4rlie OP ,
@ch4rlie@lemmy.world avatar

shhh

earthquake , in The Bezos way.

“The mine owners did not find the gold, they did not mine the gold, they did not mill the gold, but by some weird alchemy all the gold belonged to them!” - Big Bill Haywood, 1929

bernieecclestoned , (edited )

They convinced investors to buy into the mining company, they bought the land, they paid the prospector, they bought the mining equipment, they paid the miners

The gold paid them back.

How else could it work?

Edit. Interesting that no one has an answer on how else it could work… For example, in Bolivia there are mining cooperatives, but they still use all the tools of capitalism to extract the gold, and the co-op members are no different to investors really. The hours worked and conditions are no different. Mining is hard and dangerous.

pizzahoe ,

They bought the land? They paid the miners?? Mining has a history of forcing native people out of their lands through threats or worse killing people, making slaves out of poor people and forcing them into 12+ hours shifts in horrible and unsafe conditions.

bernieecclestoned ,

And you’re using the products that result from that mining, so you’re just as culpable

No demand, no mining.

earthquake ,

We should improve society somewhat.

bernieecclestoned ,

It’s been improving for 10,000 years. We’re good.

mindlight ,

But do we really want to pay the price for others getting it better?

youtu.be/XLGzFQg_1xc

I’m not saying that’s how I want it to be but unfortunately his point in the end it’s depressingly accurate…

PipedLinkBot ,

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Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

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riodoro1 ,

YoU bOuGhT aN iPhOnE sO yOu CaNt CrItIcIzE cApItAlIsM

bernieecclestoned ,

Pretty sure mining is done under all political systems.

What alternative do you suggest for making things?

A10 , in Firefox is the only way.
@A10@kerala.party avatar

Firefox is kept alive by Google default search money AFAIK otherwise why don’t they sue google for showing different search results page in firefox

phoneymouse ,

It’s sad. Google basically owns the internet

ryannathans ,

I don’t believe this has been the case for years?

Zamundaaa ,

It’s still the case, at least for Firefox on Android

ryannathans ,

Ah yeah, seems not in every country! Had to go through 2017 bloomberg articles to find out lol

Gestrid ,

They do have an extension that forces the new search results page, but I’ve noticed it freezes the browser if I tap on an image result, so I have it disabled.

gammasfor ,

I completely forgot I had added that extension (back when Google actually looked ugly on Firefox on Android without it) just disabled and oh my god not only does it not freeze it actually feels usable again (I hate the weird AI suggested tabs at the top in the chromium UI).

WtfEvenIsExistence , in History repeating itself

Thats why you can’t give every party a fair chance. After what happened last time, Germany now practices what’s called “Defensive Democracy” where parties that are considered anti-democratic can be banned (including banning all successor parties).

AngrilyEatingMuffins ,

And they did such a great job lmao

30p87 ,

It’s simply not right enough, considering there’s free speech etc. laws. Even though some (many) members are straight up Nazis and openly express this, the party itself is technically not “too far”-right

AngrilyEatingMuffins ,

The sort of engineering only the Germans could accomplish

miss_brainfart ,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

Germany is so afraid of being authoritarian again, they won’t ban a party that isn’t

cows_are_underrated ,

You’re right. One of the most famous politicians of the AfD Björn Höcke can be called a Nazi/Facist without any consequences for you, since it isn’t an insult because it’s based on true evidence.

Meas34Melon45 OP ,
@Meas34Melon45@lemmy.world avatar

Imo only parties that violate the constituion should be banned.

HaiZhung ,

AfD politics violate the constitution in numerous ways, and the German institute for human rights says the party could be banned:

euronews.com/…/should-germany-ban-afd-what-impact…

Politically, it’s of course a risky maneuver, but the correct one if you ask me.

cows_are_underrated ,

It’s more complex than that. Simply banning it could make everything worse. First of all, banning a party is something that’s very hard. It only happened twice in the history of Germany(except for the banning during the third Reich). Trying to bam them could make everything worse than it currently is, since it would look like the older parties are scared and try to keep their power. This could give the AfD a big boost. Another thing is, that in the case of a failure the AfD could use the fact they weren’t banned to promote themselves as “Democrats” that don’t want to do anything illegal. In the case it would be banned it would take exactly 2 weeks and you have at least 2 or three parties that do exactly the same and maybe would transform into one big party and we have the exact same problem. More effective would be to stop them from receiving money from the government(every party does that so that they can focus on their political work), or to not give the the possibility to enter the Bundestag(or to hold any other form of political office) as its the case with the NPD.

HaiZhung ,

Of course it is complex. A few points:

If you ban a party in Germany, it’s automatically bans all „clones“ of that party, and all of its members in high functions can’t participate in these clones. Failure to comply would lead to an immediate ban of the clone. While I agree that eventually, a new far right with other people will probably form, it would take years for them to reorganize and they would have to be extremely careful. I believe that a ban would probably yield at least 10 years of far-right free politics.

Appeasement of the far right has failed every time in history, they will cannibalize every attempt to include them in any sort of „rational“ discourse. Banning parties is a lever that exists precisely because of Germany‘s history. IMHO it sends a strong message to all the non-far-right people (of which there are approx. 60-70%) that bullshit will not be tolerated.

In contrast, doing nothing signals that what the AfD is doing is fine and will move the discourse farther and farther right.

Stopping funding and preventing them from entering the Parliament is precisely what a ban would do, so I am not sure why the difference is between that and what you are suggesting.

SubArcticTundra ,
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

Where do the voters go?

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

To hell hopefully

Caitlynn ,
@Caitlynn@feddit.de avatar

Sadly that alredy almost happend, but with the same affect. They’re now the AFD…

AllonzeeLV , in Inflation yaay!

And remember, 10 years from now, you’ll be nostalgic for this shitty time.

If a climate change superstorm, AI, riots, famine, etc haven’t gotten around to killing you yet at least. Lucky dead bastards.

collegefurtrader ,

I remind myself of this every time I start feeling nostalgic.

Cool old C10 truck? Wait a minute those things were $200 any day of the week when I was 18 (because they were and still are trash)

queermunist ,
@queermunist@lemmy.world avatar

Hopefully I can replace myself with an AI and then she can deal with this shit.

Aux , in Rekt

What are these seconds and minutes and what are lbs?

darcy ,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

WHAT THE F*** IS A MILE??? 🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺

GingeyBook ,

17.6 football fields

HamBrick ,

Roughly 800 bald eagles put wingtip to wingtip

Nacktmull ,

confused metric noises

DLSchichtl , in Fashion is a weird thing

I miss low-rise jeans…

Kalkaline ,
@Kalkaline@programming.dev avatar

I miss the whale tails

DLSchichtl ,

So much crack in the streets!

FlexibleToast ,

It was pretty great going to high school when the interesting fashion trends were low rise jeans and thongs. I mean, the rest of high school was awful, but at least there were whale tails.

jackie_jormp_jomp ,

I dunno man, I had a pretty baller time watching mst3k and having huge LAN parties every weekend.

dingus ,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

A man of class. Keep circulating the tapes.

activestatue ,

Said no woman ever

DLSchichtl ,

I’m sure there are plenty that would love to see a guy with nice Adonis belt in some low rise jeans.

BartsBigBugBag ,

The problem with that is you can’t rely on the old trusty tuck into the belt, because well, the belt is a lot lower…

DLSchichtl ,

Aww, he just wants a look!

Rockyrikoko ,

It’s more like a periscope

Bene7rddso ,

There would be fat guys with plumber’s crack too

Elivey ,

Well you’re in luck because this meme is completely wrong. Low rise jeans are in style and have been starting to go on trend for a couple years, they’re everywhere now.

It should be:

Late 90’s to 2000’s low rise jeans

2010’s high waisted jeans

2020’s low rise jeans

2030’s Best Jeanist?

Whoever made this is a full decade out of touch with fashion.

TwoGems , in 🙃😵💀
@TwoGems@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe we should eat billionaires instead

Frittiert ,

I feel quite hungry lately

lco ,
@lco@kbin.social avatar

That can't be sanitary. I mean, who knows what kind of drugs these people take, what kinds of places they have been. People get worried about eating animals that have been given antibiotics, so I can't imagine that billionaire-meat will get approved for human consumption any time soon. We should probably just euthanize the poor souls and recycle the remains... \s

Honytawk ,

We’ll get sick either way, so better to just take the short pain.

Historical_General ,

Turn them into soil. Put them in the ground.

moosetwin ,

I could never eat human meat 😔

TwoGems ,
@TwoGems@lemmy.world avatar

True, Elon probably tastes like meth

TooMuchDog , in the whole fediverse is wholesome ❤

People keep making these memes, yet I keep seeing plenty of vitriol in the comments

EherVielleicht ,

Aight bro, you wanted it that way!

COME HERE FOR A HUG!

guts ,

I think it depends on the instance, I find lots of vitriol comments on lemmy.world.

Roundcat ,
@Roundcat@kbin.social avatar

I noticed OP is a beehaw user, so they're probably shielded from a lot of the active vitriol we see here.

guts ,

Correct.

Annoyed_Crabby ,

Just don’t ask what lemmy app is the best. Trust me.

Roundcat ,
@Roundcat@kbin.social avatar

Literally had someone tell me, unless the lemmy police were actively trying to take my app away, I have no right to complain about the elitism, lol.

Darkard , in HUP!

Go lookup COBOL. That’s the real crab in this meme.

SpaceNoodle ,

You misspelled FoxPro

lowleveldata ,

Sorry bro but the real crab is always the compilers

RippleEffect ,

Work in industry, can confirm.

GitProphet ,

Thank you for your service

bdonvr ,

RPG too

To find experienced RPG devs you basically need to recruit in retirement homes

But these ancient IBM systems are still used very widely - for example as the financial backend of huge banks.

flat ,
@flat@reddthat.com avatar

my dad recently learned cobol at his work, he says almost all developers are above 50. really old language haha

SeedyOne , in Holy Mother Forkin Shirtballs

Many of us knew back with the firing of Victoria and Pao the sacrificial lamb, but June 12th truly sealed their fate. About forking time.

akariii ,

you can’t fork it, it’s proprietary software

jasondj ,

Didn’t Reddit opensource a lot of its stuff several years ago?

They may be closed now, but I think a lot was opened. There was a while when clones were becoming pretty popular.

akariii ,

really!?!?

jasondj ,

Yep

echoplex21 ,

Lol it’s a Good Place reference where they aren’t able to say fuck

WaitingForNextYear ,
@WaitingForNextYear@midwest.social avatar

Whoosh

akariii ,

i didnt get that reference

The_Worst , in I had to post from my alt account because lemmy.world servers are down

IF you want to switch to an alternative instance use the tool Lasim to synchronize your accounts: synchronize subscriptions, settings and/or blocks. Tool is available for Windows, Linux and MacOs.

TokenBoomer ,

Just tried macOS. Didn’t work.

The_Worst ,

Oh that’s a pity. Switched from lemmy.world to feddit.nl flawlessly today. Using Windows though.

TokenBoomer ,

My MAC wouldn’t let me run the .exe because of security. Am I supposed to bypass security?

The_Worst ,

Did you download the zip for MacOS? Exe is only for Windows I believe?

And I don’t know if you are supposed to bypass security. I only have very limited Mac experience.

TokenBoomer ,

I may try again later. I have a windows pc I can try it on.

The_Worst , (edited )

As [email protected] said, make sure www.lemmy.world is online. If you cant visit www.lemmy.world then the tool won’t work either.

tea ,

Probably because lemmy.world is down again.

Wait for lemmy.world to be back up and try again. If you can’t login on the web, the tool won’t be able to login either.

jiji ,
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Do you know of a way for those of us only on mobile to move subs over?

The_Worst ,

No, sorry :(

m3t00 ,
@m3t00@lemmy.world avatar

just pick another instance and create another account. same email. not complicated. can’t migrate stuff you can’t get to, meh lemmy instances fediverse.observer

jiji ,
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Thanks, I know how to create a new account on a new server, I just hoped for an easy way to move all my subs.

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