A classic Monty Python joke from Live at the Hollywood Bowl. Definitely some truth in this… I live in Germany with some of the best lagers in the world, and having a Miller Light for the first time was a really weird experience.
Now when I’ve visited the US quite a few times, I can say I dislike the expensive craft beers way more compared to the classic american lagers… They are way too hoppy, but the worst thing is how much more expensive they are! Like a pale ale can be over ten dollars, but a pint of PBR is 3.50. Beer should be cheap, and I don’t really like how this craft beer culture made the prices go so high.
Why haven’t any American brewers been able to make a solid lager? I typically get Spaten or Becks, but pretty much every American lager I try is terrible
It is very hard to brew a good lager, like the good Helles style famously brewed in Bavaria. I’ve been on a mission every time I come to the US to find good Helles, and I found two places that get very close:
But quite often even if they advertise the beer as German style Helles, it has some quality that makes it very different. Usually it’s sweet or even hoppy. I think for an american a special beer should have a special taste, but a good Helles is just very fresh and crisp beer.
Edit: and Becks is one of the worst beers in Germany in my opinion… At least nobody tries to sell overpriced Sternburg here.
Yes “sweet or hoppy” sums it up so well. I’ve been traveling a lot to the USA the last few years and whenever I bring this up at the inevitable craft brewery we end up at the Americans think I have no sense of taste in beer.
But they’re all the same and horrible. They’ve been brain washed.
The problem is, is the craft beer industry is obsessed with hops and the different varieties. Since IPAs are one of the most hopped beers, they took it and ran with it, all the while going down the rabbit hole of adding more and more hops. (akin to a child learning to cook by adding continually dumping in different spices to try to balance out the others) playing with the mixture of hop varieties. Most of them are also brewed to be drunk close to 0C which lightens its bitterness a bit. Though, fruit-infused and some hazy ones can sometimes have that bitterness work in their favor.
The next time you are in the US and you are still curious, while not to common, look more towards the porter/stout side. The coffee ones tend to be really good along with the more niche bourbon-barrel aged stouts. Fruity wheat beers can be a hit-or-miss with some being hopped more than others, but there is a good portion which are really good; sour ales having the same issue. Craft lagers could be another, but are almost non-existent due to how it’s brewed.
Well… I’m still in the US, and on this trip I mostly just get a Budweiser or Modelo when I want a beer. I feel like I don’t need to make a scene about the beer I drink, because a beer is a beer… I also enjoyed Coors Banquet a lot.
Wines are a different matter. In the Oregon vineyards I’ve had some of the best pinots I’ve ever tasted, much better than the pinots I’ve had in France. One of the best things on this trip was our day of tastings in the different wineries.
I figured as much. Just wanted to give some suggestions if you ever were interested in going down that route again.
Being less than couple hours from Napa Valley, I do definitely get the appeal of a good wine though. I, myself prefer them over beer in most cases too.
My in-laws brought me back a pack of 4 different craft beers from a trip recently. I can’t drink and enjoy them - way too hoppy. Even the Pilsner - and I like a good Pilsner - was not enjoyable at all. The one that’s left is the dark beer - going to be an expensive dirty Diesel one day.
There’s over 9,000 breweries in the US, and you’ll find many aren’t all hopped up ipas. Go do some googles searching, maybe take a Lil tour if they’ll show you around, and just start trying to buy from the source when you find something you like. There’s likely one near you.
I took it as Fry is drinking non American beer, because American beer tastes like water.
But really, outside of a couple large national beer chains that sell their low cost “bud, coors, Busch, natty” America has a shit ton of small breweries that make a large variety of beers that aren’t that way. There’s literally over 9,000 operating breweries in the US.
Went back and did some reading. It was an arcade game called punch out that came out around 1984. Vodka Drunkinski. No Mike Tyson.
Nes got the rights to make a console game but their “family friendly” mantra called for him to be renamed to not be alcohol related.
The NES release of Punch out in Japan had 10,000 gold cartridges given away as prizes and such in Japan a bit before launch. No Tyson.
Then Nintendo of America’s founder and president went and watched a Mike Tyson boxing mach, a bit before he ever became World Champ, and was like “daaaaaaaaaamn. We need him in our game as the final champ”.
They signed a 3 year deal to use his name and likeness for the now “Mike Tysons Punch-out” in exchange for $50,000. You could say it was a small amount, but no one knew how popular the game would be and it was risking that maybe he wouldn’t ever even become champ and he was getting added into the game completely last minute.
So MTPO dropped in 1987, Tyson Became world champ in 1987 (cause he was a scary flipping beast in the late 80’s), the game was a huge hot (obvs) and if you own the cartridge from 87 through 90 you get to have MT in it. Everything released after 1990 is no Tyson, including any digital downloads and wii version or switch or whatever. It has a fictional “Mr.Dream”.
So you want Mike, you have to pirate it, or you have to own a cartridge from the first few release years.
I found it especially funny that his initials are the same as Mike Tyson’s.
The guy is an absolute gaming legend. Just figuring out so much about a single game on your own and then optimizing it to such a degree with all the randomness involved. Truly obsessed
I am all for mentioning his conviction in the 1st sentence, but the crowd saying it should go into the 2nd sentence make some good points.
Barely anyone gets to have “convicted felon” in their lead sentence. Firstly, it is poor style unless the person is only known because they did a crime, secondly, convicted felon can mean a lot of thing and should be specified. “Convicted of falsifying business records” is just so much more specific, and can later be added with “and election interference”.
In any case, while the discussion is ongoing it has been included in a 2nd sentence, and the editors supporting to move it to first sentence seem to be the majority. If only more of them would read the whole discussion, instead of just saying “Support due to being established fact”.
Yeah, it’s in the third sentence of Richard Nixon’s wiki page where it’s stated he’s the only President to resign from office. First sentence was political positions he held, second sentence about events while he was President, third sentence about him resigning.
So maybe the wikipedia page should follow that pattern and the first sentence be about positions he’s held. The second sentence should be about his record as president… so something about Trump being President at the start of the Covid Pandemic (that killed over a million Americans), passed legislation to cut taxes for the wealthy, assassinated an Iranian General, tried to weaken NATO, was impeached for withholding military aid from Ukraine for personal gain, and was impeached again for trying to overthrow the government after losing the election. Then in the third sentence it would say he was later convicted on falsifying documents while covering up a scandal so he could be elected.
What’s your point in bringing bud light up? I’m not trying to start shit, genuinely curious. What is it that we need to know? What does “never trust” mean in this context? I can’t make heads or tails of anything you wrote
Last spring bud light sent trans influencer Dylan mulvaney a personalized beer can as part of a broad marketing push. This drew criticism/calls for a boycott from various prominent transphobes and caused a slight slump in sales. Bud light responded by laying off/“laying off” various senior marketing execs etc, and did not afaict support support mulvaney after it (no loud anti-transphobia pr statement). Very illustrative story of how corporate support of lgbt people under capitalism works
Like SqueakyBeaver and omniraptor pointed out, it was last years campaign Budweiser made with dylan mulvaney. They featured her on some bud light special editions.
Kid Rock made a video with him shooting the beer and the target demographic “cancelled” bud light making a big fuss about it online.
Budweiser was short of apologizing on their knees for their “mishap”, the Creator of the campaign was fired, etc.
People online were pretty harsh with dylan mulvaney. Budweiser dropped her like a hot potato. From what she posted afterwards, i figured they never contacted her or reached out to her in any way, in order to check if she’s ok.
That’s what i meant, they invest in “inclusion” , because it brings them cash. It’s not like humans became enlightened over the past decades. There was progress, sure, very slow progress in all things around being inclusive of others. Corporations are adapting to a demographic that is growing and are potential future customers.
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