I typically buy all the “best game of the year” games at steep discounts. Some of them really embrace a “live” game service and require hundreds of hours a season, which isn’t my thing.
But my most played game last year was Vampire Survivors, A single player game that looks like it came from the SNES era.
You can buy them new for somewhat reasonable prices. What people should really look at is used 1080ti’s on ebay. They’re going for less than $150 and still play plenty of games perfectly fine. It’s the budget PC gaming deal of the century.
Lot of those games are also hot garbage. Baldur’s Gate 3 may be the only standout title of late where you don’t have to qualify what you like about it.
I think the recent layoffs in the industry also portend things hitting a wall; games aren’t going to push limits as much as they used to. Combine that with the Steam Deck-likes becoming popular. Those could easily become the new baseline standard performance that games will target. If so, a 1080ti could be a very good card for a long time to come.
You’re misunderstanding the issue. As much as “RTX OFF, RTX ON” is a meme, the RTX series of cards genuinely introduced improvements to rendering techniques that were previously impossible to pull-off with acceptable performance, and more and more games are making use of them.
Alan Wake 2 is a great example of this. The game runs like ass on 1080tis on low because the 1080ti is physically incapable of performing the kind of rendering instructions they’re using without a massive performance hit. Meanwhile, the RTX 2000 series cards are perfectly capable of doing it. Digital Foundry’s Alan Wake 2 review goes a bit more in depth about it, it’s worth a watch.
If you aren’t going to play anything that came out after 2023, you’re probably going to be fine with a 1080ti, because it was a great card, but we’re definitely hitting the point where technology is moving to different rendering standards that it doesn’t handle as well.
“Instructions” is probably the wrong word here (I was mostly trying to dumb it down for people who aren’t familiar with graphics rendering terminology).
The idea is that it allows offloading more work to the GPU in ways that are much better performance-wise. It just requires that the hardware actually support it, which is why you basically need an RTX card for Alan Wake 2 (or whichever AMD GPU supports Mesh Shaders, I’m not as familiar with their cards).
Ah, mesh shaders. Cool stuff. AMD retroactively added them to their old GPUs in drivers. I think same goes for Intel’s post-Ivybridge GPUs(I think send opcode can throw primitives into 3d pipeline, if you are interested, you can go read docs). I guess Nvidia can do something similar.
And even if they don’t have such straightforward way of implementing them, they probably(my guess, can be wrong) can be emulated in geometry shaders.
What I don’t like is apparent removal of vertex fetcher, but maybe there will be extension that will return it.
And then on a Rog Aly (which I picked because it’s a little more powerful than the current Steam Deck, and runs native Windows): youtu.be/hMV4b605c2o?si=1ijy_RDUMKwXKQQH
The Rog seems to be doing a little better, but not by much. They’re both hitting sub 30fps at 720p.
My point is that if that kind of handheld hardware becomes typical, combined with the economic problems of continuing to make highly detailed games, then Alan Wake 2 is going to be an abberation. The industry could easily pull back on that, and I welcome it. The push for higher and higher detail has not resulted in good games.
I own a 1080ti and there was recently a massive update to Allan Wake 2 that made it more playable on pascal GPUs. Digital foundry did a video on it: youtu.be/t-3PkRbeO8A
I don’t know of any current game that can’t run at least 1080p30fps on 1080ti. But of course my knowledge is not exhaustive.
I wouldn’t expect every “next-gen” game to get the same treatment as Alan Wake 2 going forward. But we’re 4 years into the generation and there has probably been less than 10 games that were built to take full advantage of modern console hardware. My 1080ti has got a few more good years in it.
not in my country lol. getting used cards were already the norm before, for a while you could literally only get used ones for a good price on aliexpress.
and now our gvmnt imposed 100% tax on anything from china, so its really just not affordable.
You can still look for used ones locally either through hardwareswap or fb marketplace (unfortunately thats the best secondhand marketplace atm). Other options include liquidation companies, sometimes universities also have a big market (from both staff and students)
Its been pretty rough still though, good luck on your search
no such thing as hardwareswap in my country. our marketplaces are overpriced because we want to resell our shit with prices proportional to what we overpaid for it.
importing used shit is cheaper because the value of, say, an rx580 is much lower outside the country.
Yea lots of the secondhand tech market exists purely in the US. The market outside of there and a couple other countries (uk, ca, de) dont really exist afaik
Meanwhile I dont think I have played more than 30minutes on my ps5 this year and its june, and I have definitely not played any minutes on the 1080 sitting in my PC…
Oh fuck scratch that I may have played about 2 hours of Dune Spice Wars
Honestly, I don’t have an opinion on it, it didnt capture me like old world did last year, so probably not as good or I am just preferring more slow, thought out turn based stuff.
But mostly I am just kinda over gaming as a whole, I realized it’s mostly cheap dopamine chasing for me and I don’t really enjoy it.
‘alpha males’ find that they cannot use their typical lazy tools for wiping out competition when dealing with such adversaries. violence against them is unacceptable. filthy rumors aren’t damaging.
That’s what happens when you defederate from pro-Marxist instances. Zionists and anti-Communists start joining this anti-Marxist space and you have a whole new Red Scare on your hands.
I mean if LLM/Diffusion type AI is a dead-end and the extra investment happening now doesn't lead anywhere beyond that. Yes, likely the bubble will burst.
But, this kind of investment could create something else. We'll see. I'm 50/50 on the potential of it myself. I think it's more likely a lot of loud talking con artists will soak up all the investment and deliver nothing.
It’s looking like a dead end. The content that can be fed into the big LLMs has already been done. New stuff is a combination of actual humans and stuff generated by LLMs. It then runs into an ouroboros problem where it just eats its own input.
Yeah, I was thinking more if there's either an evolutionary improvement or revolutionary (or some movement toward AGI). For me it's better if not, so I get to keep my job for a few more years. But, my general feeling is with the cash injection, there's some chance of a breakthrough.
I mostly agree, with the caveat that 99% of AI usage today just stupid gimmicks and very few people or companies are actually using what LLMs offer effectively.
It kind of feels like when schools got sold those Smart Whiteboards that were supposed to revolutionize teaching in the classroom, only to realize the issue wasn’t the tech, but the fact that the teachers all refused to learn and adapt and let the things gather dust.
I think modern LLMs should be used almost exclusively as an assistive tool to help empower a human worker further, but everyone seems to want an AI that you can just tell ‘do the thing’ and have it spit out a finalized output. We are very far from that stage in my opinion, and as you stated LLM tech is unlikely to get us there without some sort of major paradigm shift.
To be fair, electronic whiteboards are some of the jankiest piles of trash I’ve ever had to use. I swear to God you need to re-calibrate them every 5 minutes.
bubbles have nothing to do with technology, the tech is just a tool to build the hype. The bubble will burst regardless of the success of the tech at most success will slightly delay the burst, because what is bursting isnt the tech its the financial structures around it.
See Sun Microsystems after the .com bubble burst. They produced a lot of the servers that .com companies were using at the time. Shriveled up after and were eventually absorbed by Oracle.
Why did Oracle survive the same time? Because they latched onto a traditional Fortune 500 market and never let go down to this day.
I doubt it. Regardless of the current stage of machine learning, everyone is now tuned in and pushing the tech. Even if LLMs turn out to be mostly a dead end, everyone investing in ML means that the ability to do LOTS of floating point math very quickly without the heaviness of CPU operations isn’t going away any time soon. Which means nVidia is sitting pretty.
As far as I understand, the GPUs that LLMs use aren’t exactly interchangeable with your regular GPU. Also, no one needs that many GPUs for any traditional use cases.
If you play close attention to the "power’ of your toilets flush… you’ll notice when it’s getting close to a clog. That flush will make you second guess something isn’t right. And if your neglect it, you will sooner or later realize it was in fact on its way to clog.
The life of a homeowner. Many of you have NO idea the amount of chit you need to learn and pay attention to on a daily basis to make sure your home is well maintained. Adulting fkin sucks.
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