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HEXN3T , in Big scared
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Alpha Males 🤝 🌈

Sam_Bass , in Perfect

Be even funnier if the person being txted was right in front of them

ekZepp , in Big scared
@ekZepp@lemmy.world avatar

The idea that wolf packs are led by a merciless dictator, or alpha wolf, comes from old studies of captive wolves. In the wild, wolf packs are simply families

scientificamerican.com/…/is-the-alpha-wolf-idea-a…

UltraMagnus0001 ,

Baboons act more like that, you know primates like us.

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks ,

Bonobos, primates like us and more closely related than baboons, do not.

Shou ,

I mean. They are a matriarchy. So one could say the oldest is the alpha female. Who only accepts a new female in the group if she’s able to sexually satisfy the matriarch. And in case you want to see what bonobo gay sex looks like… don’t. It looks like two sopping tumors rubbing against each other.

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks ,

Oh thank god the tumors aren’t dry.

ekZepp ,
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…There are a range of animal behaviors out there, and just because humans choose to identify with some more than others doesn’t mean we have to.

discovermagazine.com/…/the-science-of-alpha-males…

Phegan , in Perfect

What, are we 80 years old here. Posting Facebook memes mad the damn kids are always on their damn phones?

I am a travel and outdoors enthusiast, I love being outside and experiencing a new city or the wilderness, but also, phones are powerful technology that allow us to find directions or look up where to go.

The real issue isn’t that we are using it, it’s that they are being used to collect and sell our data for advertising, that algorithms are designed to keep us on our phone instead of experiencing the world.

It’s boomer shit to post this meme and be like, society bad, people on phones.

Maven OP ,

This is a parody of Boomer memes.

The classic meme goes “not a phone in sight. Just people enjoying the moment”. This is a play on that by swapping the words and romanticizing phones instead.

ImplyingImplications , in Get rich quick

Worst one is probably Apple. They just announced “Apple Intelligence” which is just ChatGTP whose largest shareholder is Microsoft. Figure that one out.

dependencyinjection ,

Well, most of the requests are handled on device with their own models. If it’s going to ChatGPT for something it will ask for permission and then use ChatGPT.

So the Apple Intelligence isn’t all ChatGPT. I think this deserves to be mentioned as a lot of the processing will be on device.

Also, I believe part of the deal is ChatGPT can save nothing and Apple are anonymising the requests too.

Blue_Morpho ,

Well, most of the requests are handled on device

Doubt.

Voice recognition, image recognition, yes. But actual questions will go to Apple servers.

dependencyinjection , (edited )

Doubt.

Is this conjecture or can you provide some further reading, in the interest of not spreading misinformation.

Edit: I decided to read the info from Apple.

With Private Cloud Compute, Apple sets a new standard for privacy in AI, with the ability to flex and scale computational capacity between on-device processing, and larger, server-based models that run on dedicated Apple silicon servers. When requests are routed to Private Cloud Compute, data is not stored or made accessible to Apple and is only used to fulfill the user’s requests, and independent experts can verify this privacy.

Additionally, access to ChatGPT is integrated into Siri and systemwide Writing Tools across Apple’s platforms, allowing users to access its expertise — as well as its image- and document-understanding capabilities — without needing to jump between tools.

Say what you will about Apple, but privacy isn’t a concern for me. Perhaps, some independent experts will verify this in time.

Blue_Morpho ,

Which is exactly what I said. It’s not local.

That they are keeping the data you send private is irrelevant to the OP claim that the AI model answering questions is local.

dependencyinjection ,

OP here being me.

Well, most of the requests are handled on device with their own models. If it’s going to ChatGPT for something it will ask for permission and then use ChatGPT.

I feel I was pretty explicit in explaining how some requests will go to ChatGPT.

AdrianTheFrog ,
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Apple has published papers on small LLM models and multimodal models already. I would be surprised if they aren’t using them for on-device processing.

Fedizen ,

chatgpt won’t save anything? Doubtful.

dependencyinjection ,

Brother I do not care about your doubts.

I want hard facts here.

Do you think that if you enter into a contract with a company like Apple they’ll just be like, aww shit they weren’t supposed to do that. Anyway let’s carry on.

No. This would open OpenAi up to potential lawsuits.

Even if they did save stuff. It gets anonymised by Apple before even being sent to ChatGPT servers.

Fedizen ,

The hard fact is OpenAI is already exposing itself to lawsuits by training on copyrighted material.

So the proof here should be “what makes them trustworthy this time?”

dependencyinjection ,

Because Apples lawyers will go ham.

I don’t want my comments here to be received as shilling Apple, more that I want them to based on actual information that is provided and not opinion pieces.

The fact is, if they were to caught saving data then Apple would just end the contract. Is it worth it for them to lose out on that cash, for the sake of using it. When they can just use all the other sources where they are allowed to do that.

Anyway, I don’t care what anonymised data they may or may not save. It won’t be tied to me.

Edit: Do you have some information on this existing lawsuits and the contracts they broke?

Blue_Morpho ,

Because Apples lawyers will go ham.

Google pays Apple $20 billion a year to keep their search on Apple devices. The subtext of “search” is Google pays Apple for your search data.

Apple has sold your data for the right price to Google, so there should be no expectation that they won’t do the same with other companies.

dependencyinjection ,

They sell Google the right to keep it as the default, not that they’re selling data.

Again, point me to some proof of it being actually selling data. As to my understanding they pay for the default engine to be Google.

Blue_Morpho ,

That Google is the search engine means Google gets that valuable search data. So they pay to be the default search engine to get your data.

dependencyinjection ,

Sure, but let’s be honest. Even if it wasn’t the majority of people are still using Google anyway.

I prefer Arc Search myself.

micka190 ,

There’s kind of a difference between “we scraped the internet and decided to use copyrighted content anyways because we decided to interpret copyright law as not being applicable to the content we generate using copyrighted content” (omegalul) and “we explicitly agreed to a legally-binding contract with Apple stating we won’t do that”.

linkhidalgogato ,

thing is apple doesnt give a shit about ur privacy

dependencyinjection ,

Finally, a reasonable comment.

I would concede that they want to keep it all for themselves, although a lot of anonymising of data is done.

My point is Apple are not sharing it with every third party on the Earth.

If you’re using Android then you don’t really have a leg to stand on, unless you’re using GrapheneOS and you’ve sandboxed Google services.

I would rather use a device that maybe keeps it all for themselves. Rather than one where it is shared with Everyman and his dog.

Plenty of things you can shit on Apple for, but this isn’t one of them I’m afraid.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

careful, that’s a hardcore tankie troll you replied to.

photonic_sorcerer ,
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That’s just not true. Most requests are handled on-device. If the system decides a request should go to ChatGPT, the user is promped to agree and no data is stored on OpenAI’s servers. Plus, all of this is opt-in.

Blue_Morpho ,

Most requests are handled on-device.

Literally impossible.

“Hey Siri, what’s the weather forecast for tomorrow.”

< The Farmer’s Almanac that is in my local model says it will rain tomorrow. >

PassingThrough ,

I think there’s a larger picture at play here that is being missed.

Getting the weather is a standard feature for years now. Nothing AI about it.

What is “AI” is, Hey Siri, what is the weather at my daughter’s recital coming up?

The AI processing, calculated on-device if what they claim is true, is:

  1. the determination of who your daughter is
  2. What is a recital? An event? Are there any upcoming calendar events that match this concept?
  3. Is the “daughter” associated with this event by description or invitation? Yes? OK, what’s the address?
  4. Submit zip code of recital calendar event involving the kid to the weather API, and churn out a reply that includes all this information…

Well {Your phone contact name}, it looks like it will {remote weather response} during your {calendar event from phone} with {daughter from contacts} on {event date}.

That is the idea between on-device and cloud processing. The phone already has your contacts and calendar and does that work offline rather than educating an online server about your family, events and location, and requests the bare minimum from the internet, in this case nothing more than if you opened the weather app yourself and put in a zip code.

Blue_Morpho ,

Nothing AI about it.

Voice processing is AI and was done by Apple servers. Previously, only the keyword “Hey Siri” was local. Onboard AI chips will allow this to be local. The actual queries will go to the servers. Phones do not have the power to run useful LLM locally- at least not with the near instantaneous response times phone users expect. A 56 Watt 128GB RAM M3 Max does around 8.5 tokens/second.

www.nonstopdev.com/llm-performance-on-m3-max/

PassingThrough , (edited )

Onboard AI chips will allow this to be local.

Phones do not have the power to ~~~

Perhaps this is why these features will only be available on iPhone 15 Pro/Max and newer? Gotta have those latest and greatest chips.

It will be fun to see how it all shakes out. If the AI can’t run most queries on the phone with all this advertising of local processing…there’ll be one hell of a lawsuit coming up.

EDIT: Finished looking for what I thought I remembered…

Additionally, Siri has been locally processed since iOS 15.

macrumors.com/…/use-on-device-siri-iphone-ipad/

Blue_Morpho ,

Perhaps this is why these features will only be available on iPhone 15 Pro/Max and newer?

I’m not guessing. I linked to the article about the M3 which is much more powerful than the a17 pro in the 15 pro and has the same NPU.

PassingThrough ,

Forgive me, I’m no AI expert to fully compare the needed tokens per second measurement to relate to the average query Siri might handle, but I will say this:

Even in your article, only the largest model ran at 8/tps, others ran much faster, and none of these were optimized for a task, just benchmarking.

Would it be impossible for Apple to be running an optimized model specific to expected mobile tasks, and leverage their own hardware more efficiently than we can, to meet their needs?

I imagine they cut out most worldly knowledge etc/use a lightweight model, which is why there is still a need to link to ChatGPT or Apple for some requests, would this let them trim Siri down to perform well enough on phones for most requests? They also advertised launching AI on M1-2 chip devices, which are not M3-Max either…

MotoAsh ,

Literally not what people are talking about. It’s the “AI” part of the task that doesn’t leave the device (unless it prompts to ask chat gpt). Not that it can magically gleam live info without making any request to the web…

Jeeze, fucking… get your shit straight, making me defend Apple… Fucking do better.

lolcatnip ,

The “AI” parts are what they’re saying happens on the device. This isn’t a gotcha.

Rai ,

If you think that’s the WORST ONE, you have no idea about any of this

frezik ,

Yeah, if anything, Apple is behind the curve. Nvidia/AMD/Intel have gone full cocaine nose dive into AI already.

ken27238 ,
@ken27238@lemmy.ml avatar

Not true. Most if not all requests are handled by apples own models on device or on their own servers. When it does use OpenAI you need to give it permission each time it does.

10_0 , in ARE TANKIES CONSPIRING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BAD TIME ON LEMMY.ML?

Tankies keep on posting walls of texts in !memes about communism, or was it the liberals, anyway people i don’t like are posting walls of text about communism in !memes… I love this post, for next time can you draw some conclusions about the survey so I don’t have to think to hard about these numbers, I can’t count past 10.

JPAKx4 , in Get rich quick

Now where is the shovel head maker, TSMC?

kautau ,

And then China popping their head out claiming Taiwan is part of China because they want to seize TSMC

yogthos ,
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sparkle , (edited )

The US state department doesn’t decide which countries own or control which territory, now does it? How exactly can you say territory you don’t control (neither legally nor militarily) and likely will never control is part of your own country? Furthermore, why would the US risk ruining trade relations with China over unnecessarily pointing out reality, when it doesn’t benefit the US to recognize Taiwanese independence?

yogthos ,
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This is also the position of the UN, and vast majority of countries in the world. Taiwan is part of China, get over it.

sparkle , (edited )

I’ll say it again: Why would countries risk ruining trade relations with China, one of the three most important trade powers internationally, over unnecessarily pointing out reality and thus contradicting China? And how can you seriously say territory a country doesn’t control in any capacity at all theirs? Why do you think a majority of world powers are independently trading with Taiwan if Taiwan isn’t independent from China?

Don’t you think China would, you know, not be constantly complaining about not having control over Taiwan for the past few decades and making bluffs about invading if Taiwan were already part of China? That’s a pretty obvious sign that “no, China doesn’t own Taiwan in any capacity”.

yogthos , (edited )
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What you’re doing here is called sophistry. Taiwan being part of China is a fact that’s recognized by international law. It’s really that simple. The reality is that China could remove US sponsored regime in the rogue province any time they want. However, they realize that it’s much better to remove burgerland influence in a peaceful way, and that’s what will happen. It’s incredible how people have trouble grasping such basic things.

edit: I aboslutely love how utterly enraged lemmy radlibs get when faced with reality

sparkle , (edited )

What you’re doing here is called sophistry. Taiwan being part of China is a fact that’s recognized by international law.

Tell me you have no idea how the UN works without explicitly saying so. A majority of countries not recognizing Taiwan doesn’t mean it’s “international law” that Taiwan isn’t independent.

It’s really that simple. The reality is that China could remove US sponsored regime in the rogue province any time they want.

LMAO this is such a cope. Yeah I’m sure the extremely aggressive all-bark-no-bite and constant “you better not do <x diplomacy with Taiwan or military action in Taiwanese strait/South China Sea> again or we’ll do something about it, I swear!” empire is suuuper capable of taking Taiwan. They know if they tried full-out war against the US or its allies (Taiwan), the US navy would cut off their international trade and turn their country upside down – it’s why they’re trying so hard (and failing) to seize full control of the South China Sea.

However, they realize that it’s much better to remove burgerland influence in a peaceful way, and that’s what will happen.

Again, absolute cope. They’ve been at it for over 75 years and haven’t made any progress, considering Taiwanese have developed significantly more national identity and even more people in Taiwan support the country participating in international relations under the name “Taiwan” (80%) and consider themselves primarily Taiwanese (90%), and only 6% consider themselves more Chinese than Taiwanese (more people considered themselves primarily Chinese many decades ago but that has long since dwindled).

It’s incredible how people have trouble grasping such basic things.

It’s incredible how you have trouble grasping the situation and think China is going to “peacefully” absorb Taiwan when Taiwan is farther from China than ever in terms of national identity and international participation.

Several polls have indicated an increase in support of Taiwanese independence in the three decades after 1990. In a Taiwanese Public Opinion Foundation poll conducted in June 2020, 54% of respondents supported de jure independence for Taiwan, 23.4% preferred maintaining the status quo, 12.5% favored unification with China, and 10% did not hold any particular view on the matter. This represented the highest level of support for Taiwanese independence since the survey was first conducted in 1991. A later TPOF poll in 2022 showed similar results.

yogthos ,
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Tell me you have no idea how the UN works without explicitly saying so. A majority of countries not recognizing Taiwan doesn’t mean it’s “international law” that Taiwan isn’t independent.

I think you just told us that about yourself.

LMAO this is such a cope.

Proceeds to write a bunch of cope. 😂

. They know if they tried full-out war against the US or its allies (Taiwan), the US navy would cut off their international trade and turn their country upside down – it’s why they’re trying so hard (and failing) to seize full control of the South China Sea.

You losers can’t even prop up Ukraine against Russia, and think you can take on China. The sheer delusion here. Burgerland economy would collapse overnight. Go check where all your shit comes from sometime. 😂

Again, absolute cope.

read and weep ignoramus thehill.com/…/4657439-china-doesnt-need-to-invade…

It’s incredible how you have trouble grasping the situation and think China is going to “peacefully” absorb Taiwan when Taiwan is farther from China than ever in terms of national identity and international participation.

You’re like the living embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Latest polling shows that vast majority of people want to maintain the status quo, and very few people want independence, but do go on child esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963

sparkle , (edited )

I’ll keep this short since you already seem extremely unhinged and half the stuff you wrote is basically empty insults.

You losers can’t even prop up Ukraine against Russia, and think you can take on China.

Remind me how long that “10-day special operation” is taking again? Seriously, how can the “2nd best military in the world” falter so hard against their tiny neighbour with 1/4 of the population just because they got weapon donations from other countries? It shouldn’t be that hard to counter right, I mean Russian military technology is allegedly so advanced and totally not stuck in the 80s. I would understand if it were half-way across the globe or something, but they’re LITERALLY ON THEIR DOORSTEP. It’s also concerning that China has repeatedly failed Russia when it comes to Ukraine and has caved into international pressure quite a few times, maybe it’s because China also realizes that the war is completely embarrassing Russia?

The sheer delusion here. Burgerland economy would collapse overnight. Go check where all your shit comes from sometime. 😂

The US navy has a larger airforce than the entire Chinese airforce, and the US has a larger and more advanced air fleet than the next 5 countries (Russia, China, India, SK, Japan) combined, and invests 3x as much as China into the military (and that’s what, 13% of the US’ budget?). The US navy also has over 2x the displacement of the Chinese navy. Spending is DEFINITELY not a problem considering that.

read and weep ignoramus thehill.com/…/4657439-china-doesnt-need-to-invade…

Damn, an opinion piece news article. Guess that destroys the entire American military and truly shows that China numba one.

Latest polling shows that vast majority of people want to maintain the status quo, and very few people want independence, but do go on child esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963

I literally said that exact same thing in my original comment, it goes against your point lmao. The status quo is defacto independence and “Taiwan, not China”. Notice how unification is by far the least popular response in what you linked, and has decreased in popularity significantly over decades. And of course, gaining independence eventually has increased in popularity over multiple decades. Is this part of China’s grand plan, to make unification with them less popular over time?

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Remind me how long that “10-day special operation” is taking again?

Yes, let me remind you that it’s now publicly known that Ukraine was about to make a peace deal within the first couple months. Then the west tanked that deal, and started pumping weapons into Ukraine.

Seriously, how can the “2nd best military in the world” falter so hard against their tiny neighbour with 1/4 of the population just because they got weapon donations from other countries? It shouldn’t be that hard to counter right, I mean Russian military technology is allegedly so advanced and totally not stuck in the 80s. I would understand if it were half-way across the globe or something, but they’re LITERALLY ON THEIR DOORSTEP. It’s also concerning that China has repeatedly failed Russia when it comes to Ukraine and has caved into international pressure quite a few times, maybe it’s because China also realizes that the war is completely embarrassing Russia?

Wow that’s a fascinating assessment of the situation. Let’s see how it compares with what people with an actual clue have to say rusi.org/…/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-wa…

The US navy has a larger airforce than the entire Chinese airforce

Last I checked US lost every one of their war games, but keep going kiddo.

Damn, an opinion piece news article. Guess that destroys the entire American military and truly shows that China numba one.

Maybe you should read up what the American military has to say before making a clown of yourself

asiatimes.com/…/war-game-china-hypersonics-sink-u…

I literally said that exact same thing in my original comment, it goes against your point lmao.

LMFAO you claimed that people in Taiwan want independence, where actual polling shows that practically nobody wants it. 🤡

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  • yogthos ,
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    LMAO, China can just blockade the province and the economy there would crash overnight.

    The only real metric to determine whether Taiwan is part of China is to ask the people who live there. And guess what, this is what they say:

    Yeah, I agree, especially after all the NED sponsored propagandists are kicked out. Meanwhile, even despite US having a massive presence in Taiwanese media, the only reason DPP got in power was using first past the post mechanic.

    Latest polling shows that vast majority of people want to maintain the status quo:

    https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/upload/44/doc/6963/Tondu202312.jpg

    esc.nccu.edu.tw/PageDoc/Detail?fid=7801&id=6963

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  • yogthos ,
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    Do you honestly think a military blockade is the way to get people on the side of your cause?

    I don’t think that at all, and that’s why China hasn’t resorted to this option.

    “After all the people I disagree with are got rid of” Do you honestly think that makes you the good guy? Removing political opponents is the methodology of authoritarians.

    Entire books have been written explaining in great detail how media is used to manipulate public opinion, and here you are bleating about AuThoRiTarIanS. 🤡

    You claim international law on one hand as if it means something and then threaten with the big stick with the other.

    Not sure what the contradiction in your mind is of a country enforcing its laws within its borders. You’ll have to enlighten us on this fascinating political theory of yours.

    Put simply, you’re an asshole.

    Put simply, you’re a cheap propagandist without a shred of intellectual honesty.

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  • yogthos ,
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    I’m not American nor have any loyalty to the Western hegemony. I’m an anarchist living in a country with its own independence movement attempting to get out from the boot of colonialism.

    Anarchists are just edgy liberals, thanks for confirming that once again in this thread.

    When you’re finished your work for the day propagandising, I hope you go home and think on your morality. Think on who you are as a person. Is defending Chinese bullying, violence, and threat really the best thing you can be doing with your life?

    Hope you’ll take your own advice, but we both know you won’t. Clearly defending US colonialism is how you choose to spend your life. Peak anarchism right there.

    umbrella ,
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    the us has literally asserted taiwan is part of china for decades now.

    under the kissinger term, no less.

    ssj2marx ,

    China’s puts about as much effort into developing their own shovel head manufacturing capability as we do fearmongering about a Chinese invasion of Taiwan, which is why they’re rapidly closing the shovel head manufacturing gap.

    kautau ,

    Those things aren’t mutually exclusive. Yes, they are dumping massive resources into SMIC. Yes, they also want to maintain imperialism over Taiwan, and TSMC is a part of that. Some of it is fear-mongering sure, but China is consistently confrontational in the South China Sea and beyond. There’s a reason they enforce an abrasive naval presence there and continue to press against the Philippines.

    ft.com/…/b4ee2e18-3256-4371-8369-9a3118959fca

    davel ,
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    they also want to maintain imperialism over Taiwan

    Not to deny the realities of the tensions there, but liberals are relatively loose with term imperialism. There is a difference between an imperialist state like the US and an anti-imperialist — and until recently imperialized — state like China.

    China is consistently confrontational in the South China Sea and beyond

    Yeah why so confrontational, China?

    Foreign Policy, 2013: Surrounded: How the U.S. Is Encircling China with Military Bases. And that article is a decade old; it’s only gotten worse.

    https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/817a6781-a46c-4c40-b92e-48a07c1ba036.jpeg

    The US has over 750 overseas military bases around the world, and is building more to further encircle China. Meanwhile China has one anti-piracy base in Djibouti.

    https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/9952370b-6e3d-4535-b64a-4d055b6c4195.webp

    linkhidalgogato ,

    has been part of china for 2000 years, anglo imperialism wont change that

    ExperiencedWinter ,

    Pretty sure China has actually been a part of Taiwan for 2000 years

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  • Nythos ,

    lemmy.ml

    It just writes itself lmao

    yogthos ,
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    the angry wasp nest has spoken

    frostysauce ,

    Tankees. Tankees everywhere.

    VeganCheesecake , (edited )
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    You have an island governed by a democratically elected government, with a population that from what I remember mostly doesn’t want to be assimilated into the PRC. The PRC taking it by force would, in my eyes, be rather imperialistic.

    linkhidalgogato ,

    democratically elected? arguable and only for the last few decades at that. it was run as a brutal single party dictatorship backed by amerikkka until fairly recently. And last time i checked the vast majority of people in Taiwan want to maintain the status quo which is that Taiwan is part of China.

    VeganCheesecake ,
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    Yeah, fuck the KMT. But as you have recognised, they aren’t a dictatorship anymore.

    And the status quo is that they are de facto a small independent island nation, that is de jure claiming mainland China.

    frezik ,

    Eh, they’ll have plenty of demand for their nodes regardless. Non-AI CPUs and GPUs are still going to want them.

    Zerush , in Perfect
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    Resol , in Guess how my day started
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    Sometimes I think about those cartoon scenes where a character has a plunger stuck in their face. That’s technically more than 0%.

    Resol , in Perfect
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    Oh don’t worry, everyone is talking to each other. They’re just using their phones to do that.

    ICastFist , in Never forget what they took from us...
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    I’m happy with a 17" laptop, though I’m having to use a usb keyboard. Also playing a game from 2015, Rebel Galaxy. Nothing really stands out, but it’s interesting enough for my tastes.

    Weylandyuta ,

    Rebel galaxy is awesome. Broadside combat with a smile. I hope you’re enjoying it.

    ICastFist ,
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    It’s an ok game, I think the first and biggest letdown is the 2D movement. While broadsides are fun, automatic turrets are taking care of everything for me so I only need to keep turning around to keep shields up.

    Potatos_are_not_friends ,

    I was so anti gaming laptop for years but my wife swears by them. I think I just got burned from crappy laptops around the 2000s - 2010s, because her latest laptop is a beast. Not to mention most PC games aren’t trying to push to cutting edge specs anymore.

    So I’ve turned around and I think gaming laptops are great!

    ICastFist ,
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    I can relate. For a long time, I was all about a tower desktop, because I could upgrade it as needed. Last one I had I built in 2014, but didn’t upgrade it in any capacity until 2017, when I gave it to my brother. If I wanted a better graphics card, I’d have to get a new PSU, and I also needed a better screen over my then 12 year old, 15" LCD screen. I didn’t buy anything new outright as I was short on cash, so I spent the next 2 years using a laptop I bought back in 2012, which even played Fallout 4 on medium! That time with it really made me appreciate the form factor and portability

    fishbone ,

    I moved to towers for the same reason years ago, but I basically never do major component swaps like I thought I would.

    I’ve since realized that having a tower is really nice for other things though, namely maintenance and cleaning/airflow. My rtx 2060 seemed like it was on its way out a year ago (thermal throttling, even on way lower settings than it used to be able to run just fine), so I took it apart and replaced the thermal paste. Runs better than when I first got it. Got some new case fans recently as well and the whole thing runs cooler, quieter, and they use less power than my stock ones, which is nice.

    Obviously the thermal paste thing applies to laptops as well, but laptops can be very tough to get open and dig around in.

    Xephonian ,

    Gaming laptops are great for those who don’t understand they’re getting a slower, harder to upgrade and more expensive system than a desktop.

    Unless a college student in Tokyo with half a square foot of desk space, or travel a lot and like to game at the hotel, there are very few reasonable justifications for a gaming laptop. And even with those justifications they are a less-than-ideal situation. A desktop is always a better solution when feasible.

    Trainguyrom ,

    The thing I don’t like about laptops are 1. Noise and 2. The bursty CPUs just don’t mesh well if I want to run a swarm of VMs or need to just run a big compress/decompress process. I watched one laptop slowly throttle itself all the way down to 700mhz while I was messing with a bunch of VMs and it really made me miss having a desktop where it can just chill at 5x the speed at 100% utilization and chew through whatever is being thrown at it

    joe_cool ,

    Rebel Galaxy rocks. Rebel Galaxy Outlaw is also amazing.

    Kalkaline , in Get rich quick
    @Kalkaline@leminal.space avatar

    Don’t forget AMD, good potential if they bring out similar technology to compete with NVIDIA. Less so Intel, but they’re in the GPU market too.

    Thekingoflorda ,
    @Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world avatar

    Does ARM do anything special with AI? Or is that just the actual chip manufacturers designing that themselves?

    SeekPie ,

    As I understand it, ARM chips are much more efficient on the same tasks, so they’re cheaper to run.

    AdrianTheFrog ,
    @AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

    I think its largely the chip manufacturers, but ARM is still making money on licensing fees for Nvidia’s new ai chip (with an integrated 72 core arm cpu) for example

    ARM is in the perfect place where, if a company using their architecture succeeds, they get tons of money, and if the company fails, they lose nothing.

    Blaster_M ,

    NPUs

    Thekingoflorda ,
    @Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world avatar

    Does ARM make the designs for those also?

    lolcatnip ,

    Don’t forget Qualcomm either.

    toastal , in Never forget what they took from us...

    The rage-inducing MOBA’s what? Real cliffhanger at the end of this meme.

    Cube6392 ,

    I also hate that the grammatical standard for all cap pluralization is to include an apostrophe. What is it the Oakland A’s possess!?

    toastal ,

    It’s not the standard tho. Every style guide says this is an error it with the optional exception of single-character capital letters …such as Oakland A’s.

    96VXb9ktTjFnRi ,

    should it be MOBAs?

    toastal ,

    💯

    grrgyle ,

    Even if it was the law I would fight it.

    Potatos_are_not_friends ,

    The DoTAs and League of Legends kinda games.

    Never understood the appeal honestly.

    h3mlocke ,

    They were joking about the apostrophe in MOBA’s

    dejected_warp_core , (edited )

    Never understood the appeal honestly.

    Same here. I spent about 30 minutes trying to play one (DoTA I think?) and figured out:

    • Each hero has a zillion upgrades and abilities
    • Each hero is basically on their own roguelite style upgrade path
    • The game has a dozen or more such heroes
    • icons and text too small to play on livingroom TV, controller play out of the question
    • at mercy of online match-making algorithm if I’m not in a league/clan/whatever

    From this I could deduce:

    • There’s no way in hell this is perfectly balanced - too many variables, it may as well be MttG
    • Going to take 20 or more hours to dial in a personal play style
    • Going to take probably 50-100 to develop a play style that can adapt to most situations
    • League play will probably kick my ass, requiring another 50-100 hours of practice/training
    • Causal play is out; likely can’t pick up and play immediately due to lobby, variable match times

    I’m not knocking the genre as a whole, but this is not for me. It’s too far outside my typical mode of gaming and is likely to just frustrate me more than anything else. I’m familiar with hard to play online games like Quake, TF2, and even Soldat. But those have small power systems that, even with gross imbalances, were still playable because there were usually only one or two scenarios you couldn’t overcome. Adding more on every axis just sounds like a wildly unbalanced system where the skill curve isn’t steep enough, costing a lot of time invested in bad strategies before you figure it all out.

    toastal ,

    The appeal would be with a limited albeit large set of characters, items, & rules, you can have effectively an infinite set of outcomes due to the dice rolls of teammates but also champions/heroes chosen on team. It is almost impossible to see the same game twice unlike. There is skill expression & build mechanics that allow a player to outplay or recover matchups & adjust to the state of the game on the fly. With every game starting over at zero, you don’t get invested in building a specific character, but in mastering the gameplay which can go from micro mechanics to macro. I think a lot of folks liked it coincidentally at a time with better broadband for communications for this style of game, developers doing frequent patches to force meta shakeups & e-sports + streaming also taking off. But also a sunk cost fallacy of having invested the time to git gud not bothering to learn any game too similar.

    Belgdore ,

    I read this in Steve Austin’s voice

    bbuez ,

    Rage-inducing Noita is my cup of tea ☕

    toastal , (edited )

    I just had a nice cup of Thai white tea, which induced the opposite of rage 🍵

    Toribor ,
    @Toribor@corndog.social avatar

    Should I play Noita if it mostly caught my eye because of the cool physics? Hades and Vampire Survivors are the two roguelikes that finally clicked for me.

    bbuez ,

    Haven’t tried the other two, but I would say yes if you do roguelikes. The physics and reactions are the half of it, the wandbuilding mechanics let you build some completely bizzare and powerful wands, and with a little luck can start getting a godrun fairly quick… but you’re always vulnerable.

    Highly recommend going in blind, there are a lot of secrets to find, different sidequests, etc, winning the game once is a milestone.

    Rolive ,

    I started playing because of the physics.

    FenrirIII , in Perfect
    @FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

    God I hate this society.

    grrgyle ,

    It’ll pass

    Dippy , in ARE TANKIES CONSPIRING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BAD TIME ON LEMMY.ML?

    I’ve never seen a set of graphs with so few labels for everything it was showing

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