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Got_Bent , in water...

When I used to teach European students, they would invariably go out and buy the cheapest crap they could find like cases of pabst genuine draft and then complain how bad the American beer is.

I think the British equivalent would be if I bought a bottle of frosty jack and used it to declare all British cider to be shitty.

You gotta spend some money to get good American beer. Pretty much all the nationally brewed stuff is shit. There’s a lot of local stuff that’s actually good.

I’m not sure how European beer culture works, but one of the reasons to drink shitty American beer water is that you can drink it all day without dying.

One more useless fact: I long thought that adjuncts in shitty American beer like corn and rice were strictly cost cutting measures. There’s definitely some truth to that. But the origins apparently go back to nineteenth century brewers being unable to achieve a clear lager with the barley that was available in America. When they used the barley exclusively, they kept getting a cloudy product.

pingveno ,

At least where I’m from (Portland), it’s really not hard to find good beers, ciders, and so on. There are food carts that have 20 beers on tap and an extra collection of bottled/canned options.

Got_Bent ,

You’ve definitely got no shortage of choices out there.

I was up in the other Portland last week (Maine) and they’ve also got a ton of good options.

That city name must inspire people or something.

K4mpfie ,

Had a similar experience when roadtripping over there. Each town had a big share of local beers who were all great. Especially if you can enjoy a good IPA. Local American beers definitely are on the same level as European ones.
Just don’t buy Bud light and similar you get at a Walmart.

asteriskeverything , in Don't look to hard in too our history... please..
shimdidly , in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources

Don’t care. I use Brave.

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

You are definitely brave to admit that.

M0oP0o ,
@M0oP0o@mander.xyz avatar

Yay, another Chromium based web browser. That will show them…

NikkiDimes ,

Ew.

HKPiax , (edited ) in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources
@HKPiax@lemmy.world avatar

I love Firefox, but I can’t shake the feeling that it is slower on YouTube. My tinfoil hat theory is that Google somehow throttles YouTube on Firefox.

cowfodder ,

I’m pretty sure someone discovered that is true recently, but can’t be assed to try to find it right now.

steersman2484 ,
ace ,
@ace@lemmy.ananace.dev avatar

They used to also use the unreleased version 0 of shadow DOM for building the Polymer UI, which - being a Chrome-only prototype - understandably didn’t work on Firefox, and therefore instead used a really slow Javascript polyfill to render its UI.

I haven’t checked on it lately, but I imagine they must’ve changed at least that by now.

adventor ,

Do you use YouTube so much that a small performance difference on a single Site has an influence on your browser choice?

Safipok ,

Firefox is good for webpages not web apps

Norgur ,
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

That's a really weird take. Like… what even is the difference supposed to be?

This sounds more like “everything should be as it was back when <insert arbitrary point in time here>! When there were still Webpages, and we were frolicking about the internet! Until the fire nation attacked Web apps took over!”

Safipok ,

Basically I am saying Firefox is not as performant as chromium when loading JavaScript.

TrickDacy ,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t agree, nothing noticeable for me anyhow. Chrome has the ultimate drawback: being under the control of a monopolistic evil corporation

ace ,
@ace@lemmy.ananace.dev avatar

In general, browser benchmarks seem to often favor Firefox in terms of startup and first interaction timings, and often favor Chrome when it comes to crunching large amounts of data through JavaScript.
I.e. for pages which use small amounts of JavaScript, but call into it quickly after loading, Firefox tends to come out on top. But for pages which load lots of JavaScript and then run it constantly, Chrome tends to come out on top.

We’re usually talking milliseconds-level of difference here though. So if you’re using a mobile browser or a low-power laptop, then the difference is often not measurable at all, unless the page is specifically optimized for one or the other.

Onarock ,

What an oddly aggressive take on someone’s opinion

LudwigvanBeethoven ,

A web app is just a fancy name for a dynamic web page. Change my mind.

Norgur ,
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

Well, Google will probably optimize their shit for their own privacy invasion sniffing tool browser twice as hard as for Firefox and such

LittleBorat2 ,

Ironically I use a chrome type browser for YouTube and mail checking only. This is also the only browser in which I am logged in with my Google account.

My main Firefox is for everything else including search.

ace ,
@ace@lemmy.ananace.dev avatar

One thing you can test is to apply a Chrome user-agent on Firefox when visiting YouTube. In my personal experience that actually noticeably improves the situation.

HKPiax ,
@HKPiax@lemmy.world avatar

That’s super interesting! I’m not versed enough though, do you have like a tutorial you recommend or should I just Google it?

ace ,
@ace@lemmy.ananace.dev avatar

There’s a bunch of extensions that allow you to switch user-agent easily, I personally use this one, it includes a list of known strings to choose between as well.

jaybone ,

And to check that it’s working, there are websites you can go to which will tell you what browser they have detected you are using.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

It’s not tinfoil, they have been caught doing it and they continue to do it. It’s a scumbag company.

Taleya ,

How the fuck they haven’t been slapped with an anticompetitive is beyon - oohh right. End stage capitalism

DarkDarkHouse ,
@DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I tried both and the videos played at the same speed for me

Promethiel ,
@Promethiel@lemmy.world avatar

You haven’t experienced slow until you try to take Firefox through Google Cloud Console or Search Tools. 15 seconds in Chrome, somehow turns into 3 minutes in Firefox, funny how it does that.

redcalcium ,

Google does that a lot with their own web properties. I remember Google Meet didn’t support background replacement on Firefox, but switching Firefox’s user agent to Chrome suddenly fixed it.

voodooattack ,

Google Sheets is a mess on FF too. Cell selection is broken af.

lepinkainen ,

Same happens with Safari. The page loads in a weird funky way, video sorta first and then comments and suggestions many seconds later.

On Chrome on the exact same computer it’s instant.

They’re doing it on purpose.

FlexibleToast ,

Google somehow throttles YouTube on Firefox.

Because they do. A while back, it was discovered they were injecting delays if they detected Firefox as your user agent.

sudo42 ,

For YouTube on IOS, I use Brave. It does a decent (but not perfect) job of hiding ads on YT.

TheCheddarCheese ,
@TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.world avatar

Google definitely did extend video loading times on FF a while ago, not sure if they still do it.

umbrella , in Don't look to hard in too our history... please..
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

what about it

AnarchoBolshevik ,
@AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml avatar
daniyeg , in Don't look to hard in too our history... please..

for a second i thought they wanted you to change your pronouns to JP/Morgan lol

Anamnesis , in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources

One thing I’ve been annoyed with after switching to Firefox is the iffy password manager performance. It’s so common for it not to remember a password that it should, or, weirdly, for it to only remember the password once I’ve typed the whole username in and hit tab.

brbposting , in The fuk? Please help me complete this insane captcha

Just try the audio!

Type the numbers you hear:
IEHBTIWISYBFNWOWYCBWJWISGBFIWNWBSY three MAHDYSUWNQNAGDYCJENAAJUF friveour MANANBHUVUJNWNAOPQPYNX oneteen NNAZBNQUUWBBFIKQBDOONA fourfifthsnine

Ludicrous mode every single time, feel so bad for the vision impaired

Zagorath , in smoking
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

What I don’t understand is how people get addicted to smoking in the first place. It hasn’t been “cool” to smoke in my lifetime. Going near a cigarette as a non-smoker is gross as fuck. Who decides “I don’t care about my health or the gross smell, imma do this thing with no upsides” before being addicted?

Somerefriedbeans ,

Because it’s a drug that gives you a feeling. Some people enjoy the feeling that smoking gives them, the addiction slowly follows after.

The same works for just about any drug. I can assure you that heroin and crack addicts didn’t suddenly decide they wanted to be addicted to those drugs. Curiosity gets the best of people sometimes.

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

How do you get that feeling without making a decision to do something really gross? Why did they choose to smoke that first gross death stick?

braxy29 ,

because i was 18, a freshman in college, and just got dumped. i was all down about it and a friend offered me one and i thought, fuck it, why not.

then i bummed another a few days later and so on. bought my own pack within a week.

Facebones ,

All it takes is one low point, friend. I’m glad you’ve never been there around the wrong person at the wrong time but understand that its not just a “hmm I want to smell terrible today ❤️” situation.

stoy , in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources

I remember when Chrome was released, all marketing was on how much faster it rendered webpages, I never saw that as an issue, Firefox was fast enough, I tried Chrome for a bit, and hated the UI, I remember being confused as to why everyone loved Chrome suddenly, and frankly, I still am a bit confused by both the sudden shift, and the absolute market dominance by Chrome…

eezeebee ,
@eezeebee@lemmy.ca avatar

I remember being confused as to why everyone loved Chrome suddenly

Because they were still using Explorer before that

stoy ,

Fair, I can see that, I guess my question was more for the people who already had switched to Firefox

Safipok ,

Over the years my customized Firefox looks like chrome ¯_(ツ)_/¯

stoy ,

I hated Chrome’s UI so much that I switched from Firefox to Pale Moon when Firefox started the whole Australis design language, and only switched back when the current design was launched

PahassaPaikassa ,

I grew up with a 56k modem. Anything after adsl is warp speed for me. I never understood or observed the speed differences between browsers.

Maybe I’m just so slow myself that I dont notice the difference but come on… how much can it be? A few seconds? Who is so busy that a few seconds is a worthy amount of time to try and save (not talking about F1 drivers here)?

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

With browsers it added up to a few seconds of difference per day. It was completely preposterous.

vic_rattlehead ,

I switched from FFX to Chrome back in the day because Chrome tabs were all independent processes in task manager, and one crappy website wouldn’t kill my whole browser.

When Google started their war on addons, I switched back to Firefox.

barsquid ,

Pretty much my same progression except I’ve come back to LibreWolf instead.

MewtwoLikesMemes ,
@MewtwoLikesMemes@lemmy.world avatar

Greetings, fellow LibreWolf user! Hurrah!

stoy ,

That is a good point, I had not thought about that.

psud ,

Chrome is very good at running Google’s pages. Even before Google owned YouTube chrome was better at YouTube.

stoy ,

Google bought YouTube in 2006, Chrome was publicly released in 2008, so I believe you are misremembering the events…

psud ,

Entirely possible, I was pretty busy in my early career back then

stoy ,

The interesting thing is that I was quite certain that I tested it in 2006, but there is zero evidence that that could have happened.

i_stole_ur_taco , in smoking

It’s simple, but it ain’t easy.

Tarquinn2049 , in The fuk? Please help me complete this insane captcha

It is the burger, I’ve had this one a few times today and it was always the burger. Maybe you have something else going on, sometimes adblockers break them. Whether intentionally or not, who knows.

BCsven ,

But the cow might have lived longer than the fridge

can , in The fuk? Please help me complete this insane captcha

Where did you find this? I’m intrigued by novel captchas.

felixwhynot ,
@felixwhynot@lemmy.world avatar

Looks like hCaptcha IMHO

Buttons , in Oh tell me again how it loads faster and takes up less resources
@Buttons@programming.dev avatar

That kid is superior

NataliePortland , in smoking
@NataliePortland@lemmy.ca avatar

Keep trying though

SubArcticTundra ,
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