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Sgt_choke_n_stroke , in ARE TANKIES CONSPIRING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BAD TIME ON LEMMY.ML?

The “everyone’s a tankie who disagrees with me” I’m convinced is a new meme.

Cowbee ,
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That’s what happens when you defederate from pro-Marxist instances. Zionists and anti-Communists start joining this anti-Marxist space and you have a whole new Red Scare on your hands.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Shitlibs gonna shitlib

Tankies gonna tank

AmosBurton_ThatGuy , in I need to survive 3 days without pooping..
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Infinite poop.

You sit on the toilet to poop, but the poop never stops coming out of your butt. You have to start flushing the toilet every two minutes to keep up. You try to pinch your butt closed but that makes your insides hurt. The poop accelerates. You call 911. The paramedics call for doctors. The doctors call for specialists. The story trends on Twitter. You turn down talk show appearances. Your septic tank fails. People form a cult. Your toilet is finished. Volunteers arrive with buckets and shovels. You are completely used to the smell.

The poop accelerates. You are moved to a stepladder with a hole in the top step. The poop accelerates. The shovelers abandon the buckets and shovel directly out the window. The poop accelerates. A candlelight vigil forms around your house. One of the workers falls over and can’t free himself. The poop accelerates. A priest knocks over the stepladder and tackles you out the window. You land in the pile. The poop accelerates.

The force now propels you forward and upward. Vigil goers grab at your legs. The poop ignites from their candles. The Facebook live event hits 1 million viewers. The poop accelerates. You are 30 feet in the air. The fire engulfs the vigil and your house. 60 feet. The poop accelerates. The torrent underneath you is deafening. 5 million Facebook live viewers. You try to close up shop but your butthole disintegrated long ago. 120 feet up. Your house explodes. The poop accelerates. 1000 feet. You are now tracked on radar. You try to change your angle of ascent but you should have thought of that way earlier.

The poop accelerates. 4,000 feet. NORAD upgrades to DEFCON 3. Concentric circles of fire engulf your city. The poop accelerates. You have broken the sound barrier. 30,000 feet. You no longer take in enough oxygen to sustain consciousness. 60,000 feet. CNN is reporting on all the world records you’ve broken. 200,000 feet. You are no longer alive. The poop accelerates. Your body disintegrates but your poop contrail remains. NASA can no longer track you. You break the light-speed barrier and we can no longer bear witness.

The poop accelerates. Forever.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Fucking shitposters.

Nakoichi , in ARE TANKIES CONSPIRING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BAD TIME ON LEMMY.ML?
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The fact that Hexbear polled more no than yes is so fuckin funny to me.

Dirk ,
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Why does that instance still exist? Wow.

Cowbee ,
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Why would it not?

Dirk ,
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I’ve never seen any good content coming from that instance. Only political bullshit and fighting.

Cowbee ,
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It is a Left-unity server, with Marxists and Anarchists alike. It is going to be political by nature of the instance.

If you don’t care for politics, the Games community is very pleasant IMO, and if you’re trans, traa is hosted over there and it’s a very active community. Hexbear is largely self-contained and self-sufficient, there’s more than just politics.

manuallybreathing OP ,

hexbear is officially anti tankie, I don’t make the rules. RIP

CyberSyndicalist ,
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Fuck tankies, Khrushchev should have nuked Hungary

vger ,
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lemmy.dbzer0.com:

This instance currently allows new community creation, however the following subjects are explicitly not allowed as communities.

  • No Tankie shit.
LittleBorat2 ,

They asked 5 people and they were smart enough to say no

elvith , in DUNHNUHDUNHNUHDUNHNUHDUNHNUHDUNHNUHDUNHNUHDUNHNUH!

Ich hab sie vor rund 14 Jahren auf einem Festival entdeckt als ich “nur aus Spass” mal gucken wollte, was A Capella Metal sein soll - einfach geil.

Ui, den Eintrag in der FAQ gibt’s ja nach all den Jahren immernoch Ü

Ihr seid kein Metal. Ihr habt keine Gitarren. Ihr seid Schwuchteln.

Danke. Endlich sagt’s mal wer. Und - wie läuft’s mit deiner Band? Wann spielt ihr auf dem Wacken? ;-)

01189998819991197253 , in Airport security be like
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So, they’re going to take it from you, and put it in the rubbish with all the other potential explosives… in the most populated area of the airport. You know… in case it goes off…

Spyro ,

You seem to be under the impression that they care about your safety. Rookie mistake. They care about the security of the airplane, not you.

01189998819991197253 ,
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I don’t think they care about that, either. In my experience, they care about not getting sued. That’s it.

Artyom ,

You seem to be under the impression that they care about anyone’s safety, rookie mistake. Their job is exclusively to boost consumer confidence in air travel and increase corporate profits.

Spyro ,

This was probably true for a bit after 9/11, but I can’t say I personally know anyone who currently feels safer flying on planes because of the TSA. Pretty much everyone I’ve spoken to in person regarding this knows the TSA is a joke.

Realistically it’s now a government jobs program that is basically immune from ever being terminated because many politician benefits from having this program operate in their district/state/etc providing jobs that they do not want to lose.

Flummoxed , in The "one bad apple" claims always ignore the many many many bad apples that exist

The phrase is “One bad apple spoils the barrel.”

Literally means all are bad if one is bad.

Edit: verb simplification.

usernamesAreTricky OP ,

Marium webster has a good article about the history of the misappropriation of the phrase

merriam-webster.com/…/one-bad-apple-spoil-the-bar…

denshirenji ,
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I kind of think this is also a bit misleading. Isn’t the point of the phrase that you should remove the bad apple lest it affect the rest. As in, “If you leave the bad apple in the barrel it will spoil the bunch. So remove it before it does.” I don’t quite think that its really being misappropriated.

From your link a translated original proverb:

“Well better is a rotten apple out of the store

Than that it rot all the remnant."

So, by that logic, if you get those bad apples put before they spoil the bunch then they were “just bad apples”.

To be clear I’m not saying the phrase isn’t being used to minimize serious issues. But the point of the phrase wasn’t that one bad apple means the entire bunch is already rotten, but that you need to remove the bad elements before the rot spreads.

usernamesAreTricky OP ,

However it’s often used in the context of already existing systematic issues. The bunch has already spoiled

denshirenji ,
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Wholeheartedly agree!

I have had some time to think about it, and I should have included the word systemic instead of serious. I still stand by my overall point with regard to what the idiom actually means. I don’t believe that its a good thing to misrepresent something just to prove a point.

Flummoxed ,

Yes, my comment was an oversimplification in light of the topic. The adage is supposed to teach you to get rid of the bad apple to save the barrel.

Hikermick , in I go out of my way to not crap at work.

It’s like trying to wipe my ass with a CVS receipt. That’s why I never leave home without my supply of 2 ply

Thteven , in I go out of my way to not crap at work.
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Best piece of ass I ever got

DmMacniel , in Echo

du hast mich gefragt

waigl ,

und ich hab nichts gesagt.

DmMacniel ,

Willst du, bis der Tod euch scheidet

Bandicoot_Academic ,

Treu ihr sein für alle Tage?

DosDude ,
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Aaaaaaaaah! NEIN!

name_NULL111653 ,

Aaaaaaaaah! NEIN!

Klear ,

Wir haben es machen, Lemmy!

Sotuanduso ,

Du
Du hast
Du hast es
Du hast es gemacht

lugal ,

Nein

asexualchangeling , in I refuse to believe that they made that abomination of a sequel

There is no sequel in ba sing se

joel , in I go out of my way to not crap at work.

idgi, who is that?

dubyakay ,

The point where is that the dress represents the TP and Anya Taylor-Joy represents their finger.

ImplyingImplications , in Get rich quick

Worst one is probably Apple. They just announced “Apple Intelligence” which is just ChatGTP whose largest shareholder is Microsoft. Figure that one out.

dependencyinjection ,

Well, most of the requests are handled on device with their own models. If it’s going to ChatGPT for something it will ask for permission and then use ChatGPT.

So the Apple Intelligence isn’t all ChatGPT. I think this deserves to be mentioned as a lot of the processing will be on device.

Also, I believe part of the deal is ChatGPT can save nothing and Apple are anonymising the requests too.

Blue_Morpho ,

Well, most of the requests are handled on device

Doubt.

Voice recognition, image recognition, yes. But actual questions will go to Apple servers.

dependencyinjection , (edited )

Doubt.

Is this conjecture or can you provide some further reading, in the interest of not spreading misinformation.

Edit: I decided to read the info from Apple.

With Private Cloud Compute, Apple sets a new standard for privacy in AI, with the ability to flex and scale computational capacity between on-device processing, and larger, server-based models that run on dedicated Apple silicon servers. When requests are routed to Private Cloud Compute, data is not stored or made accessible to Apple and is only used to fulfill the user’s requests, and independent experts can verify this privacy.

Additionally, access to ChatGPT is integrated into Siri and systemwide Writing Tools across Apple’s platforms, allowing users to access its expertise — as well as its image- and document-understanding capabilities — without needing to jump between tools.

Say what you will about Apple, but privacy isn’t a concern for me. Perhaps, some independent experts will verify this in time.

Blue_Morpho ,

Which is exactly what I said. It’s not local.

That they are keeping the data you send private is irrelevant to the OP claim that the AI model answering questions is local.

dependencyinjection ,

OP here being me.

Well, most of the requests are handled on device with their own models. If it’s going to ChatGPT for something it will ask for permission and then use ChatGPT.

I feel I was pretty explicit in explaining how some requests will go to ChatGPT.

AdrianTheFrog ,
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Apple has published papers on small LLM models and multimodal models already. I would be surprised if they aren’t using them for on-device processing.

Fedizen ,

chatgpt won’t save anything? Doubtful.

dependencyinjection ,

Brother I do not care about your doubts.

I want hard facts here.

Do you think that if you enter into a contract with a company like Apple they’ll just be like, aww shit they weren’t supposed to do that. Anyway let’s carry on.

No. This would open OpenAi up to potential lawsuits.

Even if they did save stuff. It gets anonymised by Apple before even being sent to ChatGPT servers.

Fedizen ,

The hard fact is OpenAI is already exposing itself to lawsuits by training on copyrighted material.

So the proof here should be “what makes them trustworthy this time?”

dependencyinjection ,

Because Apples lawyers will go ham.

I don’t want my comments here to be received as shilling Apple, more that I want them to based on actual information that is provided and not opinion pieces.

The fact is, if they were to caught saving data then Apple would just end the contract. Is it worth it for them to lose out on that cash, for the sake of using it. When they can just use all the other sources where they are allowed to do that.

Anyway, I don’t care what anonymised data they may or may not save. It won’t be tied to me.

Edit: Do you have some information on this existing lawsuits and the contracts they broke?

Blue_Morpho ,

Because Apples lawyers will go ham.

Google pays Apple $20 billion a year to keep their search on Apple devices. The subtext of “search” is Google pays Apple for your search data.

Apple has sold your data for the right price to Google, so there should be no expectation that they won’t do the same with other companies.

dependencyinjection ,

They sell Google the right to keep it as the default, not that they’re selling data.

Again, point me to some proof of it being actually selling data. As to my understanding they pay for the default engine to be Google.

Blue_Morpho ,

That Google is the search engine means Google gets that valuable search data. So they pay to be the default search engine to get your data.

dependencyinjection ,

Sure, but let’s be honest. Even if it wasn’t the majority of people are still using Google anyway.

I prefer Arc Search myself.

micka190 ,

There’s kind of a difference between “we scraped the internet and decided to use copyrighted content anyways because we decided to interpret copyright law as not being applicable to the content we generate using copyrighted content” (omegalul) and “we explicitly agreed to a legally-binding contract with Apple stating we won’t do that”.

linkhidalgogato ,

thing is apple doesnt give a shit about ur privacy

dependencyinjection ,

Finally, a reasonable comment.

I would concede that they want to keep it all for themselves, although a lot of anonymising of data is done.

My point is Apple are not sharing it with every third party on the Earth.

If you’re using Android then you don’t really have a leg to stand on, unless you’re using GrapheneOS and you’ve sandboxed Google services.

I would rather use a device that maybe keeps it all for themselves. Rather than one where it is shared with Everyman and his dog.

Plenty of things you can shit on Apple for, but this isn’t one of them I’m afraid.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

careful, that’s a hardcore tankie troll you replied to.

photonic_sorcerer ,
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That’s just not true. Most requests are handled on-device. If the system decides a request should go to ChatGPT, the user is promped to agree and no data is stored on OpenAI’s servers. Plus, all of this is opt-in.

Blue_Morpho ,

Most requests are handled on-device.

Literally impossible.

“Hey Siri, what’s the weather forecast for tomorrow.”

< The Farmer’s Almanac that is in my local model says it will rain tomorrow. >

PassingThrough ,

I think there’s a larger picture at play here that is being missed.

Getting the weather is a standard feature for years now. Nothing AI about it.

What is “AI” is, Hey Siri, what is the weather at my daughter’s recital coming up?

The AI processing, calculated on-device if what they claim is true, is:

  1. the determination of who your daughter is
  2. What is a recital? An event? Are there any upcoming calendar events that match this concept?
  3. Is the “daughter” associated with this event by description or invitation? Yes? OK, what’s the address?
  4. Submit zip code of recital calendar event involving the kid to the weather API, and churn out a reply that includes all this information…

Well {Your phone contact name}, it looks like it will {remote weather response} during your {calendar event from phone} with {daughter from contacts} on {event date}.

That is the idea between on-device and cloud processing. The phone already has your contacts and calendar and does that work offline rather than educating an online server about your family, events and location, and requests the bare minimum from the internet, in this case nothing more than if you opened the weather app yourself and put in a zip code.

Blue_Morpho ,

Nothing AI about it.

Voice processing is AI and was done by Apple servers. Previously, only the keyword “Hey Siri” was local. Onboard AI chips will allow this to be local. The actual queries will go to the servers. Phones do not have the power to run useful LLM locally- at least not with the near instantaneous response times phone users expect. A 56 Watt 128GB RAM M3 Max does around 8.5 tokens/second.

www.nonstopdev.com/llm-performance-on-m3-max/

PassingThrough , (edited )

Onboard AI chips will allow this to be local.

Phones do not have the power to ~~~

Perhaps this is why these features will only be available on iPhone 15 Pro/Max and newer? Gotta have those latest and greatest chips.

It will be fun to see how it all shakes out. If the AI can’t run most queries on the phone with all this advertising of local processing…there’ll be one hell of a lawsuit coming up.

EDIT: Finished looking for what I thought I remembered…

Additionally, Siri has been locally processed since iOS 15.

macrumors.com/…/use-on-device-siri-iphone-ipad/

Blue_Morpho ,

Perhaps this is why these features will only be available on iPhone 15 Pro/Max and newer?

I’m not guessing. I linked to the article about the M3 which is much more powerful than the a17 pro in the 15 pro and has the same NPU.

PassingThrough ,

Forgive me, I’m no AI expert to fully compare the needed tokens per second measurement to relate to the average query Siri might handle, but I will say this:

Even in your article, only the largest model ran at 8/tps, others ran much faster, and none of these were optimized for a task, just benchmarking.

Would it be impossible for Apple to be running an optimized model specific to expected mobile tasks, and leverage their own hardware more efficiently than we can, to meet their needs?

I imagine they cut out most worldly knowledge etc/use a lightweight model, which is why there is still a need to link to ChatGPT or Apple for some requests, would this let them trim Siri down to perform well enough on phones for most requests? They also advertised launching AI on M1-2 chip devices, which are not M3-Max either…

MotoAsh ,

Literally not what people are talking about. It’s the “AI” part of the task that doesn’t leave the device (unless it prompts to ask chat gpt). Not that it can magically gleam live info without making any request to the web…

Jeeze, fucking… get your shit straight, making me defend Apple… Fucking do better.

lolcatnip ,

The “AI” parts are what they’re saying happens on the device. This isn’t a gotcha.

Rai ,

If you think that’s the WORST ONE, you have no idea about any of this

frezik ,

Yeah, if anything, Apple is behind the curve. Nvidia/AMD/Intel have gone full cocaine nose dive into AI already.

ken27238 ,
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Not true. Most if not all requests are handled by apples own models on device or on their own servers. When it does use OpenAI you need to give it permission each time it does.

JohnOliver , in Airport security be like

Ok… theoretical question. Couldn’t a terrorist turn the liquid into a pretty solid gel, shape it as a buttplug an simply have it in their hand luggage?

DNOS ,

Why a butt plug ? Once you have a solid from a liquid there’s thousands of options…

JohnOliver ,

Its the most likely gelatinous/rubber object that i could imagine someone needing to travel with, at short notice.

Thinking about it now though, you are right! they could as well turn it even more solid and make it into anal beads i guess

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

The question is, as always, why not a buttplug?

tiredofsametab , in I need to survive 3 days without pooping..

I'll make up for it since I'm usually 3x/day.

Yawweee877h444 ,

Usually? Wtf is your diet like bro

AstralPath ,

Might not be diet. Might be IBS.

ryannathans ,

Which is usually a food intolerance to a very obscure sugar, additive or peptide

tiredofsametab ,

Two to three meals a day, almost no snacks, generally a decent amount of fiber. Mom's basically the same and I think grandmother was. Mom has been diagnosed with various forms of IBS. Dad has Celiac's and a DNA test I took said increased risk.

If I go keto, almost all the issues disappear. Trying to do that is basically impossible whilst living with my wife because I can't just not make food and not keep anything I shouldn't eat in the house (my willpower eventually crumbles when I'm busy or stressed).

not_that_guy05 ,

Same, I drop about 5 deuces a day. Might be IBS might be lactose intolerant, who knows.

yogthos , in ARE TANKIES CONSPIRING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BAD TIME ON LEMMY.ML?
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