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DrRatso , in Can somebody help explain why this is happening?

You can try right clicking the title in your library and going to properties -> compatibility-> force compatibility and select your proton version of choice.

Titanfall 2 worked a-ok when i tried it a few weeks ago.

BradleyUffner , in The fact that I could just install linux and run my current game with (almost) zero issues impresses me immensely!

What’s that about?

This has been my exact experience with Linux throughout the last 2 decades. Old computers, new computers, it doesn’t matter. The reliability of the audio systems have always been horrible for me.

ObviouslyNotBanana OP ,
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I do not understand how the things work, which means I’m not going to be able to know what needs to happen, but through troubleshooting of specifically audio throughout the years I pretty much get the feeling that most “solutions” are entirely made up and no one actually understands why those solutions work. It’s weird, because other issues don’t generally have that feel.

dustyData ,

It’s almost always a compatibility issue. It’s kind of arcane obscure stuff, like the particular version of the particular sound chip that somehow works 99% of the time with the same kernel drivers for the chip family but has some small bug that makes the audio engine bork. Allegedly Pipewire has been working hard at being more resilient to those issues and it’s been integrated progressively in more and more distributions.

ObviouslyNotBanana OP ,
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Yeah it’s been so much worse just some years ago. I’m forever traumatised by the acronym ALSA.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

ALSA was a big step up over OSS.

m3t00 , in Gamedev and linux
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sirico ,
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You don’t need logs because in Windows 95 they made a tool that always 100% diagnoses and fixes the issue and it runs every time dispite never actually returning a fix or error code.But wait there’s more here’s a hex code to some memory allocation rather than creating a reference library in human so you can search forums where the only advice is reformat or don’t worry guys I fixed it.

But you are not allowed to look at the actual run time logs as we’re a polished environment.

m3t00 , (edited )
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Windows 95;

bought my first Gateway PC when Windows 95 came out. Lockups every day drove me to Slackware install from a dozen floppy set I d/l’d. Mac OS 8.*/9 was no better. OS-10 brought apple back from the dead. wanted to buy stock, was/am poor

malchior , in (MicroOS) Starfield 1440p Ultra - 7900X 7900XTX

The performance for this game is garbage considering how poor the graphics are. Was a quick refund, I’ll wait for the ultra turbo deluxe goty edition for $20 in half a decade.

Mereo ,

Having learned my lessons in the past, I’m now a patient gamer. It’s great to play a game 2 years (sometimes a year) after its release. By then they have patched all the annoying bugs and optimized the game.

JoeKrogan ,
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Yes its the way to go and its a great way to save money. I try to spend a maximum of 50 per year. I usually grab a few things in the steam sale . I find it forces me to play through stuff and really think about if will I play it. It turns out 50 will go a long way and I usually end up with 8ish new games a year.

JoeKrogan ,
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Yes its the way to go and its a great way to save money. I try to spend a maximum of 50 per year. I usually grab a few things in the steam sale . I find it forces me to play through stuff and really think about if will I play it. It turns out 50 will go a long way and I usually end up with 8ish new games a year.

merthyr1831 ,

So you like buying games after their buy-in beta period? 😎

Mereo ,

Haha, yes.

Peter1986C ,
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TBH I currently only “own” the game because of a voucher tied to my RX6600. Else I would have waited, too.

Sidenote: in 1080p it runs at ~50-60FPS without FSR (native resolution). Plays on Windows and Linux about evenly well, albeit that I have seen some graphical glitches (on Linux, did not try to reproduce them on Windows 10) e.g. my follower doing a bl*ckface for no reason.

voodooattack , in Why do you use Linux?

I was using Linux before there was a Steam, and I’m still here. You speak as if the “default state of being” is being on Windows.

Disregarding that, why would a single launcher/client/whatever dictate what OS I use? What I enjoy while using steam is not the openness of steam, what I enjoy is the freedom of choice on my home turf. I enjoy living in an age where I can boot up my trusty Linux rig, finish my work, and contemplate three or four launchers before picking one and facing choice paralysis while picking from hundreds of games (yes I’m very excessive and haven’t even finished 0.01% of them) that actually run like a charm.

This is a reality I love and celebrate. This is the year of the Linux desktop for me.

I don’t love the Steam store, but I love Valve, because they made all of this possible. Even if all of the above is incidental in their pursuit to build their steamdeck. At least they did it the right way by contributing back upstream to the FOSS community at large.

emax_gomax , in Valve Is A Wonderful Upstream Contributor To Linux & The Open-Source Community

To a certain degree sure, I’m still miffed at what they did for the steamdeck. Having custom drivers and configurations they never open sourced and have not declared any intention to open source. See gitlab.com/open-sd/acp5x-ucm-files#notice .

Valve is still a good advocate for open source, the support they’ve given to dxvk alone is worth praise. But they ain’t no angels.

spookedbyroaches ,

Is what they’re doing causing issues to users of their devices? If not, then no one should care. It’s the same for nvidia, if no one is affected, then whatever. But nvidia does cause measurable harm to the FOSS ecosystem and makes adoption worse, so they deservingly get shit from the FOSS community. But don’t just criticize companies purely for closing their sources.

emax_gomax ,

Define users of their devices? As a steamdeck owner my experience for installing an alternative os was terrible because theirs specific hardware configurations that valve made for the device and never bothered to upstream it so they were applicable outside of their environment. I’m not criticising valve for closing their resources, I’m criticising them for exploiting open source software to get a usable os up quickly and then not contributing to the same ecosystem that let them do that… not even assuring anyone they would eventually do that. Valve is a for profit company like any other, if you wanna waste time defending their less savory actions than go ahead but don’t pretend they aren’t what they are.

spookedbyroaches ,

Doesn’t this article explicitly state that they are contributing to drivers and other projects that they use? It just sucks that you overlooked all of what they did and just focused on them not opening up their hardware configurations.

Also, what hardware configurations did they close? I couldn’t find any problems when looking this up. It seems like you can just install another OS while having some hiccups. Which is understandable since most desktop OSes are geared toward a mouse and keyboard control.

emax_gomax ,

I’m not saying they don’t contribute anything, they dont, they fund others contributions which is just ss valuable, I’m saying their not the champions of Foss when the modification theyve made for their own hardware is pretty opaque by their own design. It’s like praising nvidia for opening up their drivers when all they bloody is dis dump code to a public gihtub repo periodically with all actual changes squashed together. As for what they haven’t open sourced:

  1. The pulse audio configuration that let’s the builtin speaker system actually… you know, work. Someone else kindly looked into and contributed. it github.com/alsa-project/alsa-ucm-conf/pull/233#is…
  2. The sddm changes to support the lockscreen code. This is a valve specific feature they forked and have as of yet refused to upstream.
  3. The trackpad drivers for the steamdeck/controller touch sensor. You literally have to run steam itself to get this basic hardware functionality working.

I praise valve for their support of Foss projects but that doesn’t equivocate their lack of openness on the steamdeck.

nogrub ,

valve has done a lot of great things for foss but keep in mind they do those things for money like everybody else

ipacialsection , in Well Linux Supported Keyboard and Peripherals?
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To be honest, I’ve never used or heard of a keyboard or mouse that doesn’t work with Linux. The space is pretty well standardized so generic drivers work for everything. I don’t have experience with keyboard layouts that aren’t English QWERTY, though. The safest option would be something basic from a major brand, extra stuff like RGB is not 100% guaranteed to work.

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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We use QWERTY here too, but we have more letters in our alphabets which makes the keyboards slightly different.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

You can reprogram individual keys if you need to in Linux, so even if your preferred layout doesn’t exist, you can get what you want working.

I personally use Dvorak, and it hasn’t really been an issue. That’s pretty mainstream though, so YMMV.

Regardless, I’ve never even considered Linux support for a keyboard. Some parts may not work, like maybe RGB or macro software, but if you don’t need that, the basic keyboard should be absolutely fine and you can tune from there with standard Linux layout tweak tools. If your keyboard supports QMK, I think that works on Linux so you can go wild with that if you like.

dinckelman ,

If the brand is large enough, it’s probably already supported by OpenRGB or purpose-made alternative for that brand (OpenRazer, for example). That said, in a lot of cases only rgb changes are supported, and things like rebinding keys/macros is not. Layout doesn’t matter, your keyboard doesn’t control that

rikudou ,

Logitech MX Master 3 doesn’t work well in Bluetooth mode, at least for me it’s unusable. MX Master 2S works great on the same computer. But neither of them supports remapping the extra keys, so I’d say neither of them works 100%.

Willdrick ,

I have an MX3 and you can map not just keys but per-application macro actions using solaar

LunchEnjoyer OP ,
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I also use MX master 3 via Bluetooth without any problems.

Grass , in Someone just rewrote Wipeout and ported it to Linux (and macOS)

It would be nice to see projects like this with all the leaks we have had over the years if not for the legal bullshit. Or even just a code review to see what kind of weird shit devs used to do.

yukichigai ,
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Or even just a code review to see what kind of weird shit devs used to do.

Agreed, some really amazing stuff could be lurking there. Let us not forget the glory that is the Fast Inverse Square Root.

n3cr0 , in Linux surpasses the Mac among Steam gamers

I didn’t expect there were more Mac gamers than Linux gamers out there, especially on Steam.

amenotef ,
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Me neither. But it makes sense. In some countries there are a lot of OS X users.

Just like there are a lot of iPhone users. Generally they are users that get a Mac the same way they get an iPhone. It’s from Apple. It looks like premium hardware. And it seems simpler to use than the alternative (Windows).

They don’t get the Mac for gaming. They don’t care about the GPU at all. But considering there are many users if just a few of them decide to try the MacBook to play some light game they can put a good number in the steam survey.

JackGreenEarth ,

It’s not Mac or Windows, it’s Mac, Windows, or Linux. And you can install Linux on a Windows device.

amenotef ,
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I was thinking about people with basic software knowledge and 0 hardware knowledge. That also never used Linux. This is why I excluded Linux. I consider Linux a bit more advanced.

Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever ,

I am kind of the opposite. I always assumed there were a decent number of mac users. If only just people using work or “school” laptops to play a few games.

It being as low as 1.84% is what shocks me.

PriorProject , (edited ) in What are your thoughts on the state of native Linux games?

Here’s a potentially unpopular opinion… Games that target the Proton API are actually native Linux games. Proton isn’t virtualization or emulation, it’s just an API that happens to be mostly compatible on both Windows and Linux. Other than the kernel itself, Linux has never had one true API to do anything… there’s always more than one option to target (as you note with your Wayland/x11 example, but also pulse, alsa, pipewire, the list is endless). Proton is an API that’s available on Linux, and programs that target the Proton API are Linux programs in every way that matters.

The question isn’t native vs proton. The question is whether proton is a good API. At the moment, it’s an API that offers pretty good cross platform compatibility with windows, which is hugely valuable to developers and they’re using Proton for that reason and even testing against it. That’s good for us as users and for gaming on Linux.

If Windows evolves their versions of the proton APIs in ways that break compatibility and are difficult to fix, we may find that game devs complain on our behalf to avoid breaking their Linux builds. If Proton begins to suck compared to alternatives, and enough people are playing games on Linux with Proton, devs will organically start to look at other porting options more seriously. But Proton is both a way to kickstart the chicken/egg problem, and itself may just actually be a good API to develop Linux games against.

Nefyedardu ,

Philosophically there isn't much difference between a Windows game running in Proton and a native Linux game. Devs that port games to Linux are going to be doing most of the same things Proton is doing anyway. In that sense, Proton is basically just an automatic porting tool that works in real time. And I'd like to say there is still value in native Linux games but... is there? Proton is open source, so devs could (theoretically) just submit changes to it themselves if they want to optimize things or fix bugs. And that could benefit everyone, not just that one game.

Armok_the_bunny , in The Steam Summer Sale is live now!

Celeste is $2 right now and is really good.

mrfriki , in The Steam Summer Sale is live now!

Disco Elysium for under €3. Time to get it I guess.

ArtikBanana ,

Better to pirate it.
The original devs were kicked out and the current owners are scummy.

mrfriki ,

That’s the reason I haven’t gotten it until now. You may be right though.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

If you have been claiming games on EGS, it was free there are some point.

mrfriki ,

I usually claim the free games but it seems I missed this :(

Gutless2615 ,

Guarantee the original team would support this comment.

nublug , in Sorry I can't do it.

sounds like your problem is likely a combo of trying bare arch and also an nvidia card. i’d recommend Pop!OS as i hear it’s the best out of the box experience for nvidia owners, and if you want to stay arch based i’d try EndeavourOS as it’s arguably the most mature and stable arch based distro today, it’s what i use but i also have amd not nvidia so i can’t speak for the nvidia experience for endeavour. maybe you want to wait a while before you try again just so you’re not burning out on the frustration, too. good luck!

Jambalaya OP ,

Interesting. What issues are there with Nvidia? I was able to get the kernal drivers installed without issue.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I’m guessing you’re running either the nvidia open source drivers (way worse performance) or you don’t have graphics switching configured and it’s using your GPU’s iGPU (way way worse performance).

Bigger distros like Mint will probably configure that for you.

nublug ,

nvidia only very recently opened up their drivers to open source dev, so the open source drivers available right now are still based on reverse engineering and they don’t work super great. there are proprietary drivers from nvidia but they are not easy to install and configure and popos handles that for you on install.

MrBungle ,

Seconding pop os for a solid starter Linux distro.

Been daily driving it for about 3 years now i think.

keyez ,

I use endeavorOS with my 3070 and if runs great. Better than what I could get from Pop and nobara when I evaluated them months ago

Lemminary , in Wine 9.11 has landed! 🍷

Oh no, it’s been 23 years, it’s still too soon 😪

HowManyNimons ,

Where were you, when they ran out of stuff to build the ladder to heaven?

CaptainEffort ,

It’s been 22.3 23 years, aids 9/11 is finally funny!

Lemminary , (edited )

Gurl, don’t even. As a gay man I can say we’ve been making fun of AIDS for a while now and way more people are still dying from that.

I can’t find it now, but I was about to post a meme image that said:

“Say something positive about the gay community!”

“HIV tests”

See? Funny.

Lemminary ,

I thought it was kinda gay

lemmy_99c4zb3e3 OP ,
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It’s deffinitely too soon; I learned this hard way today. ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)

DarkThoughts , in Vulkan or DirectX on Linux?

Depends on the games and their implementation of Vulkan but generally Vulkan is preferable and typically runs much faster.

Molecular0079 ,

Usually yes, but it doesn’t apply to BG3. The vulkan renderer is terribly broken ever since Patch 3.

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