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TheNanaimoBarScene , in 5 reasons why desktop Linux is finally growing in popularity
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As much as I’d like to see Linux gaining traction, I have a hard time believing market share is as high as StatCounter reported in some places. For example in Canada, Linux usage is at 1.99%, which even still seems high to me. That’s 1 in every 50 desktops. Anecdotally I can think of only 3 people, including myself, who primarily run Linux on desktop. In corporate environments, I have only ever seen Windows, or sometimes Macs deployed to employees. Even with the hate on Windows 11, it still works for most people, so they upgrade to it (begrudgingly, if they care at all), or simply buy a new computer for it. I truly wonder who else out there is running desktop Linux here in Canada…

That being said, I am less skeptical of the growth in users in India, but not for the reason the author listed. I think it’s more likely that it is growing in popularity due to its cost (ie, free), as well as the fact that many distros are more lightweight than Windows, which especially benefits older or cheaper hardware. India is still a developing country and I’d imagine many don’t have the resources to buy the latest hardware, and instead will make do with what they have or what they can afford. I think this will continue to be a boon for Linux in the developing world as Windows is not getting cheaper or faster.

Overall, I think Linux has nowhere to go but up. Once Windows 10 finally goes EoL, we may see more people looking to make the switch.

someacnt_ ,

May I ask population of Canada?

lightstream ,

That’s 1 in every 50 desktops. Anecdotally I can think of only 3 people, including myself

Can you name 147 people using Windows? If you can, then that’s 1 in every 50. Of course, people you know are probably the technical sort that are more likely to pay attention to their OS, but still you’d need to be able to individually name 147 Windows users just to match the 1 in 50 stat. Point I’m trying to make is that one in 50 really is not very many!

toucheatout ,

@TheNanaimoBarScene @testeronious its just an average. Those Linux users are probably concentrated into a niche userbase, not evenly spread into the population. They are not your average users, who mostly run windows. But they are definitely there and I'm glad to see that.

emergencyfood ,

That being said, I am less skeptical of the growth in users in India, but not for the reason the author listed. I think it’s more likely that it is growing in popularity due to its cost (ie, free), as well as the fact that many distros are more lightweight than Windows, which especially benefits older or cheaper hardware.

Most Windows in India is pirated. Microsoft doesn’t care unless you’re a big company. The second point is true. Another reason is that schools shifted to Ubuntu 10-15 years ago, and government departments are now shifting to Linux.

namingthingsiseasy ,

Agreed, Linux is quite popular in academia, particularly in any technical field. A lot of scientific software has to run on Linux because of supercomputers, and especially a lot of open source software is Linux only. So a lot of students run Linux for convenience, and a lot of computer labs run Linux as well. Of course, there’s also the fact that lots of people just think Linux is better than the alternatives, and they’re more likely to try new things when they’re at a university student’s age.

So I feel like that would probably be a significant contribution to the 2% that’s being reported

ProdigalFrog OP , in Stop Killing Games is a new campaign to stop developers making games unplayable
TWeaK ,

www.stopkillinggames.com

There are direct government petitions for the United Kingdom, Canada, and Australia.

cai ,

...and, if you actually owned The Crew (20 million people did), even outside of France, the French regulator accepts complaints from international customers. Which is super unusual, and very valuable to the campaign...

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

The Canadian and UK ones aren’t live yet

caustictrap , in Linux share on Steam bounces back to nearly 2% for March 2024

Also 45 percent of that 2 is on steam deck.

li10 , in Linux on the desktop breaks 4% for the first time on Statcounter
ahal ,

It’s the year of the wood dragon!

Diplomjodler , in Linux on the desktop breaks 4% for the first time on Statcounter

Ahhhh, it’s the year of the Linux desktop!

recapitated ,

Always and forever

bradboimler , in 5 years later Valve finally gives Windows compatibility tool Proton a logo
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Let’s be honest year of Linux desktop won’t happen until more company’s sell computer with Linux already installed most people don’t install their own OS this is why Windows is so popular until that is fixed by preloading Linux on more systems I don’t think it’ll happen.

BURN ,

It’s not just that. Prebuilt computers with Linux are probably the worst way to go, because the people buying prebuilt aren’t the ones who can troubleshoot their own systems, and like it or not, Linux requires significantly more and more involved troubleshooting. Windows/MacOS have abstracted that so far away from the user that most don’t even bother and just restart, because 99% of the time that fixes the problem.

I truly don’t think Linux can ever go beyond enthusiast desktops and web browsing machines. It’s such a steep learning curve where almost everything you’ve ever learned about computers needs to be thrown out and re-learned.

Grass ,

This is opinion is more than old enough to drink and gamble in the states and almost as senile as my grandpa. Current iteration of windows is fucked in so many ways and I grew up on 95 then used every version after it for at least a year or two each but mostly XP, 7, and 10. Mac os I have no idea as I only ever put the time in during the time of Netscape navigator and Mac os was different back then. Modern apple UI still seems unintuitive in the sense that I have no idea how to navigate some screens while shit ass windows I can albeit begrudgingly due to m$ enshittifying everything. Linux has it’s factions though and they are just as different as m$ and app£€. I’m in the ‘fuck gnome my desktop is not a phone and this doesn’t even feel good on a touch screen’ faction.

My senile ass grandpa bets on horse races online from his kinoite desktop. Man literally can’t even communicate with us any more and somehow he figured that shit out after asking me for a computer by calling it machine and calculator and electrical box thing. I’m genuinely puzzled though it’s a weird case.

The more realistic cases would be my parents who use computers for work and movie piracy. I switched them after saying they will use this or pay people to fix their virus problems, and since then I have done literally nothing apart from confirm that the update notification is indeed the real one and okay to click. Even the more boneheaded in my social circle have gotten steam decks and have nothing but praise for them, even though I have a number of gripes. I do love the thing though, it’s like having a shitty child and someone has to love them, and thank dog at least they aren’t as ugly and deformed as the neighbor’s kid ‘rog ally’.

BURN ,

Ok, but again, that’s you. Not the average consumer. The average consumer has been using windows and/or macOS exclusively for the last 20 years. They’re familiar with how the current operating systems work, and have a large number of habits, good and bad, to unlearn.

Modern Apple UI is very intuitive imo, so we’re just going to have to disagree there.

The online betting example is a good usecase for Linux, as it’s nothing more than basic web browsing. For someone who’s computer experience is turn it on, open a webpage and never leave the browser, it works (and I mentioned that in my original comment)

The problem is for the people who need to do a little more with their computer, but still aren’t what anyone would consider tech savvy. They’re going to have a much harder time with Linux than Windows/MacOS, and that’s the only perspective they’ll ever get.

The steamdeck is a weird case. I honestly find it more of a consoleOS, which have often been unix based than a full blown Linux distro. It’s still not a desktop, at the end of the day it’s a very good game console.

dustyData ,

Apple is the worst, most unintuitive UI in the world. It’s pretty, but it is not functional. The same shit you just said about Linux applies to macOS. As soon as someone wants to do something other than the most basic shit with macOS, it won’t let you, will force you to jump through hoops or will require a higher than novice knowledge and skill with computers to make it do what you want it to. But I think Linux is ever more leaning towards mass appeal without losing it’s flexibility and power. Something that neither of the corporations can claim.

AnUnusualRelic , (edited )
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Most people can’t actually use Windows. What they can use (barely) is a couple applications and utilities. Put them in Linux and they still won’t be able to use the system, they’ll still get by with a few applications and utilities which will use the exact same paradigms. So no big difference.

Also they won’t dump data in random places on the disk but only in the user’s home. Which is an improvement.

And for the few that want to understand something, unlike Windows a lot of the help is built-in. The error messages make sense. There’s a logic to things. All in all, Linux is easier.

tabular , in 5 years later Valve finally gives Windows compatibility tool Proton a logo
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

If the outer rings were closer together then it might look like a “V”, for Valve.

Telodzrum ,

Orbitals are not a laughing matter.

iusearchbtw , in More details on the Manjaro Orange Pi Neo gaming handheld
@iusearchbtw@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Not sure how they’re planning to compete with the price of the lower end Steam Decks with those specs…

pineapplelover ,

I love the linux competition nonetheless

lwe ,

Don’t think they can afford to subside the sale if they don’t have their own shop. So maybe lower binned parts from AMD?

They have to save money somewhere.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Not to mention the software.

I hate to say it but this just seems like a bad idea doomed to fail from inception.

Hope I’m wrong.

Presi300 , in Does it matter that Gnome doesn't support VRR? And why?
@Presi300@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, it does matter, it’s a feature of your monitor that you just cannot use on gnome. Wayland DOES support VRR, it’s had a protocol for it for a while now. GNOME doesn’t support it yet. VRR works perfectly fine on KDE Plasma Wayland and Hyprland (standalone wayland compositor).

million OP ,
@million@lemmy.world avatar

So can you just swap compositors for Gnome or is Gnome reliant on their own compositor (Mutter)?

Chewy7324 ,

Gnome is tightly integrated with mutter and doesn’t support other compositors. Same is true for KDE with KWin.

Rustmilian ,
@Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

Not necessarily true, you can switch say Kwin for Mutter or something else for example. People have successfully done it in the past.
It’s just not at all straight forward, nor supported, nor recommend, likely very unstable especially under Wayland, amongst losing out on features that rely on integration between the DE & compositor.
It’s possible to do, but; why even bother? it’s not really worth it.

Presi300 ,
@Presi300@lemmy.world avatar

No, I just use the KDE Plasma sesktop

SquirtleHermit , in "I would like to switch to Linux, but it's just not good for gaming"

Linux Gamers - “Sure am stoked that gaming on Linux has gotten so good, finally don’t feel like I need to keep Windows”

Randos - “Wow, such copium! It didnt work for my specific use case! Linux users are so obnoxious!”

neatchee ,

If your quote was the title of this post then the “randos” wouldn’t show up. But it’s not. 🤷

SquirtleHermit ,

Idk man, I get how you could read the title as confrontational, but every pro Linux post has these “randos”. Haters gonna hate. 🤷‍♂️

gila , (edited ) in The finals game doesnt run on linux so i switched back to windows 11.

All the developer needs to do is push a button to make EAC work. They’re probably busy hotfixing the 1.0 but I’m sure it’ll work soon, they are excluding all steam deck users by not pressing it

Edit: apparently it’s not EAC that is the problem. The game has its own anti-cheat which also potentially bans your account if you try to play on linux www.protondb.com/app/2073850

ElectroLisa ,
@ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The Finals use EAC and their own anti-cheat, the latter causes issues

gila ,

thanks, edited to correct

be_excellent_to_each_other ,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

Edit: apparently it’s not EAC that is the problem. The game has its own anti-cheat which also potentially bans your account if you try to play on linux www.protondb.com/app/2073850

So it's 100% the developer's choices that have resulted in this train wreck of a thread.

Chewy7324 , in Xonotic - a FOSS FPS game

It’s a great game, if you like fast-paced arena shooters.

The performance is great and it’s really fun to master the movement and get real fast and jump high.

I’ve played quite a bit on LAN with one to 5 people. Especially instagib with grappling hook is great fun.

uis OP ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

About performance: I got it running 20 fps on old SBC Rock64 in OpenGL mode and was GPU-bound. Well, Mali-400 is not a gaming GPU and ARM blob drivers don’t even support OGL, only GLES.

On i5-2xxx it runs on about 110-120 fps with 30% of one CPU core load(GPU-bound again) in X11 and ~90 in kwin_wayland.

Atemu ,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

I didn’t like how you had to pick up weapons from the map in the normal modes when I played on a LAN but instagib mode was hella fun. Fragging three people while bunny-hopping into the flag room and fragging two more on the way out is something you just have to experience.

uis OP ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t you have all the weapoms on Clan Arena from the start?

Atemu ,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

The mode we played didn’t. I’m sure there are ways to configure this.

Chewy7324 ,

Yeah, it’s hella fun.

Xonotic has quite a bit of config options, e.g. it’s possible to spawn with all weapons. But mastering those is a learning curve, compared to the more approachable instagib.

Chobbes ,

It’s kind of weird how picking up weapons on the map is a thing that kind of died out with arena shooters. I guess you probably didn’t grow up with those kinds of games?

Atemu ,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

Nope, way too young for that. The most boomery shooter I ever played before that is probably Tribes Ascend.

yamanii , in Developer of "The Pale Beyond" had shared playtime stats, and SteamOS is at 5.28%
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

I see that, Valve was at the Tokyo Game Show to promote the steam deck and had a panel with the tekken producer, they are even convincing a console country into buying a handheld PC.

doomsel , in Question about Steam Deck vs Gaming PC

By default only the officially supported games are listed. If a game is not supported this does not in.any way mean that it will not work. In my experience everything except some anticheat infested games will not work. For some rare games some tinkering is necessary, yiucan typically find infos here in the protondb

To make all games visible, go to your settings then go to the “Compatibility” settings, then locate the “Steam Play” section. Toggle on the “Enable Steam Play for all other titles,” choose the latest Proton version from the dropdown menu, click “OK,” and restart Steam.

chemical_cutthroat OP ,
@chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for the info. All set up now, and downloading games!

Chewy7324 , in Wine 8.21 brings High-DPI scaling and initial Vulkan support for Wayland

I’m so happy that soon-ish wine will be able to run games on Wayland. This should fix issues with HiDPI and fractional scaling.

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