I tried it a few hours after I made this post but for some reason, Gnome on Xorg kept crashing and going back to GDM as soon as I moved the cursor. By that point it was getting late and I stopped debugging. I have no idea how to debug that anyway.
Damn, I am stumped then, it works fine for me on steam.
You could try installing it in lutris perhaps? The game doesn’t have any achievements or enhancements on steam so you wouldn’t be missing out on any extra features besides possibly cloud save (though backing up wine prefixes is amazing, I copy fl studio to a flash drive to sync with my various computers).
Okay this is extremely weird. No matter which version of wine/proton I pick in Lutris, I get the exact same issue where the window doesn’t show up but the game is running. The only difference with Steam here is that I can hear the game audio.
I am almost certain this is an issue because of Wayland but I can’t seem to figure out why Gnome on Xorg keeps crashing for me.
This one is more of a bandaid than anything but have you tried using gamescope?
Also, for testing purposes you could see if you are able to run another X window manager and see if it is a problem with X rather than Wayland. dwm is very small and in the AUR, if you install that and xorg-xinit, you can jump over to a getty and create .xinitrc in your home folder with the line exec dwm and run startx. You’ll need dmenu as well to run things and that can also be found in the AUR.
I figured out why Gnome on Xorg was crashing. It was because of libinput-config. I noticed because it wouldn’t actually crash until the moment I moved the mouse. The game seems to work perfectly on Xorg.
I already tried gamescope. The results of that attempt are in my original post above.
Still, while I can finally play the game now, it’s a bit annoying having to remove a package and reboot everytime. I don’t even know if this is a Wayland issue or a Gnome issue but I don’t have the disk space to install KDE or anything.
Ideally I would like to figure out why this is happening in the first place and maybe report it upstream, but I have no clue how to even get debug logs out of this.
Sounds like that may actually be an issue with a config file somewhere. You could check the wiki on libinput and poke around the configs if you think it may be necessary to keep the package.
Thanks for sharing – I think that if I were to buy a handheld PC now, the ASUS ROG would be it. Having had a Steamdeck since release though, I don’t think I could go back to not having the sleep/resume function for gaming, especially on the go. It’s still not perfect for games that have some sort of always-online component (I don’t blame Steam OS for that), but it’s definitely the killer feature of the deck for me.
Still though, the smaller size, reported quietness, screen and performance of the ROG at it’s price point make me really excited for what options will be around when I decide to upgrade.
There is a lot of work towards making the Ally compatible by the team at ChimeraOS. Once they finish up, the Ally should have plenty of its features supported.
That’s truly odd, I’m running a Ryzen 5600G and a 6700XT and the game is rock solid (Fedora 38, Gnome, Wayland). Runs great on Steam Deck as well. I wonder if the RX580 is the culprit? If MESA is up to date, try a newer kernel for updated Radeon driver? (I assume as Ubuntu 22.04 is LTS that you’re on an older kernel)
Not really. In my case i start it from within Steam Library and not from commandline, but i have tried the --force -q dotnet48 shortcut also, with no positive result. Yesterday, I could play the game for more than 3 hours, but today, starting it the same way, it crashes after loading 1% of the save game.
I’m starting it now in a parallel installed Windows, where the save game location is shared between both OS (-appdata “/path/to/folder” -skipintro). Maybe i find a better way and must not boot to Windows. Since i start this really seldom, it has to download a lot of Updates before i can continue.
in the term that will open type “$@” (with the ") and inspect the output .You can redirect it, but steam executes games in a container so not all other directories will be available to write to
Tbh i would still go with steam deck. I would rather deal with steam support than asus support. Steam has excellent track record of exemplary support, when i lost my account they recovered it within 3hours while providing me proper updates. While asus tried to back out of warranty by releasing a beta bios and added disclaimer saying using it void’s warranty but if you don’t use it, it might fry cpu. It could be honest mistake and it could be a placeholder text they add by default to every beta bios. But I would rather spend my days enjoy using my device not worrying about the manufacturer of the device I bought. Now if this asus vs some other manufacturer like msi then asus is the clear winner.
As shown in protodb, it doesn't seem to be too much compatible yet. You can try to see if there is something available on Lutris or you can open an issue on GitHub (if it doesn't exist)
Yeah I had horrible issues with stutter in PopOS. There was a very long running thread with many people having similar issues. It was a thing across multiple CPU’s and video cards that simply didn’t occur on other distros, but seemed to be some sort of IO throttling.
Went back to Mint/Ubuntu and haven’t had an issue since, but the forum was showing people continuing to have the issues on PopOS for 6mo+ after I quit it
I don’t have an Index, but I’m running Arch and using ALVR with a Quest 2. It works reasonably well, but Steam VR does sometimes require me to restart it. Also, some games just don’t run via Proton. Many games do just work though. I’m having a blast playing Alyx right now! It runs well through Proton.
Are you starting a game with lots of mods enabled?
Can you try creating a new save with no mods enabled and see if you still get crashes? I think some of the mods in the Steam workshop just doesn’t work well in Linux.
Very interesting. I’ve had similar issues that you had but it was when joining a friend’s multiplayer server with lots of mods. Single player works fine for me.
Sorry, I can’t think of any other possible solutions for you to try.
it was actually the nvidia drivers that was in the install, had to modify the boot so i can download and install the proprietary drivers. everything is running perfectly smooth now :) i was using a 16gb USB
Good to know you solved your issue. I remember in Nobara 36 I flashed it onto a 4gb stick and it was pretty full. Wasn’t sure if the subsequent releases increased in size or not. :p
As someone who hasn’t tried to game on Linux but just use it as a server with my old pc hardware, dealing with nvidia shit is just a massive pain in the ass.
I was only using one monitor and yet it’d never pick up edid properly and other random quirks.
I chucked an Intel arc in there for av1 encoding on jellyfin and after getting to kernel 6.2 it also “just worked”.
It’s amazing how much of a difference it can make when the manufacturer gives even one quarter of a shit about Linux.
Great post, thanks for sharing your experience with Nvidia in all those distros!
Just wanted to add: if you are stuck with Nvidia but want to get started gaming in Linux, install Pop!_OS . They have carefully tweaked Ubuntu to make even Nvidia “just work”. It works for me so far, on 2560x1440 @75Hz.
I would rather have some distro freedom with an AMD GPU but unfortunately my main (Windows) game (DCS World) does not work well in VR specifically with the RX7000 series drivers yet.
i do own a steam deck and can say with certainty that, after seeing how well it's handled every game i've thrown at it, i will be switching my primary pc to linux once support for win10 ends
I think any gaming on games or boxes post 2019 is just silly. It is a horror minefield of broken and buggy programming and drivers. The best bet is to stick with all hardware and software pre 2018 , preferably running Linux. Windows sucks so stick with pre win10 if u can. Windows is doomed. Hang on to all your all hardware and stick with old games, everything past 2018 is about to slide into a massive shitshow of broken bugs.
IIRC it was already fixed when Linus did this, just not distributed. It was caused by the bluntness Linus developed due to unmeaningful Windows warnings in the 1st place.
The bug was that you couldn't install steam without faking a the installation of a dep that went down the dependency chain ending in a conflict of essential packages. The functionality to still proceed is a feature. Linus could also just have copied rm -rf --no-preserve-root / from the internet as solution and would have trusted it blindly. If you want to be nannied all the way, I'd suggest you switch to iOS for everything.
If Linus would be a non-techie, he would have tried to install it with a graphical AppStore, it wouldn't have worked and he'd either given up or found the flatpak version of Steam, which would have worked. Not restricting power users is a good aspect. If I play around with Windows registry to force the removal of edge, Linus would blame me, not Windows. You have to differentiate between things normal users tried and things Linus attempted because he has some technical knowledge.
Some random user saying anything doesn't make anything true, you don't believe flat-earthers on the internet, either.
There was a library incompatibility between the Steam image in the Pop_OS package manager and the OS. It was caused by a bug introduced by the Pop_OS developers. Linus tried to install Steam using the package manager and it failed. So he went on Google to find out how to install Steam on Pop_OS. A thousand blogs and forums told him to enter "sudo apt-get install Steam", which he did. Unfortunately doing so automatically uninstalls certain important desktop components in Pop_OS.
@JasSmith@miggs597@F04118F@bionade24 lol, that's completely hilarious imo. Still though, that bug is definitely weird, I never got it my self on ubuntu or any of its derivatives. Is it only a pop OS issue then?
If I play around with Windows registry to force the removal of edge, Linus would blame me, not Windows.
He didn't "play around" with anything. He entered, "sudo apt-get install Steam". That comes straight from thousands of blogs and help sites which instruct users to do just that when they have issues installing Steam.
Talking about games, I’m so happy I don’t have any title that I play stuck on Windows. None EAC games always worked for me when I started using Linux full time, but I was only able to delete my Windows partition after Apex added support for EAC on Linux. Ever since I haven’t looked back :)
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