Tbf most devs probably want to do it, they just can’t justify it financially. Most games’ programmers are computer nerds, and they would be the ones in charge of implementing that kind of stuff. They’d happily do it because obviously, as computer nerds they love Linux, but even if they accept to do some unpaid overtime just because they really want to implement this, it might get blocked by the publisher because they don’t want that kind of stuff to bypass QA especially since it has a chance of affecting all users, and when looking at the numbers, it’s just not profitable to them.
Now the steam deck could change that dynamic because it has a decent market share, and I would love to see the actual numbers but I’d be willing to bet that most deck owners buy more games than the average player.
Source: am games’ programmer, computer nerd, and steam deck owner
I’ll just add on that BSG are a horrible example when it comes to delivering on “promises” and plans.
If memory serves, the official plan is still to do a steam release when EFT is “out of beta”. But they realized they make a LOT more money if they control the whole store so… Which is likely why they moved away from Steam Audio, continue to use their grossly incompetent anti-cheat solution, etc. Nikita et al will “heavily imply” they are doing stuff and then just ignore it because people keep buying top tier accounts so they can have maximum storage and so forth.
Also: SP Tarkov works REALLY well under Proton. Something about the new gui for the spt-installer needs more dependencies to work again, but the actual game runs great if you can be bothered to manually patch it.
I haven’t gotten around to trying Streets yet (lately I just do a few factory runs and that is it), but that map is already pushing the “limits” of Tarkov’s use of Unity and is still new and prone to performance issues. So not surprised there would be problems with sptarkov.
Tarkov is in a different much more complex situation. It uses some Battleye addons that are custom made for the game that Battleye will not port to work on Linux.
If it was an issue on the user’s end then it’s possible 3rd parties could fix it (as Wine/Proton has for every game not designed for GNU+Linux). BattleState Games have decided they don’t want to host servers without BattlEye for us to play on and that we’re not entitled to host our own servers.
I did consider installing Windows on a machine just for Tarkov but install and using modern Windows looks like hell. I’d rather install Windows XP than Windows .
Thats strange. Maybe I should try actually selecting a game I don’t have and see for myself. It literally said that should be careful to make sure that I have the correct game selected and not something with a similar name. I‘ll try to remember and check tomorrow.
What resolution are you running at and what CPU do you have? I have a Ryzen 3900x and an Nvidia 3090 and in the Constellation headquarters, I am seeing around 34fps at 4K. I have to lower the render resolution to 55 to make it more responsive.
Switched to Experimental to see if that made any difference. Not really. On load, gpu is sitting around 60%. After going into and back out of the cave again, GPU sitting at 90% usage. CPU constantly around 60%.
Seems like there are some optimisations that need to happen, better unloading perhaps.
I am seeing 90% usage as well. For CPU, I’ve been noticing that there’s one or two cores that get slammed to 100, so I am thinking its a CPU bottleneck. Makes sense considering that in some areas, lowering render resolution doesn’t do anything.
Yeah I'm a grey-beard, my first experience was Slackware in the nineties. I've been using Linux since but usually on servers and in VMs only. Recently I've been able to go 100% thanks to Proton. I really enjoy the progress made with tech such as systemd, wayland, btrfs, proton and flatpak. Though a lot of grey-beards are very resentful of these I feel they represent real positive progress. There's also support for kb backlight and other features of my laptop.
I'm also really enjoying PRIME rendering on my laptop, using Intel and Nvidia at the same time for different things. It works beautifully/seamlessly and even more so that I can just type "yay" and get a new Nvidia driver or a matching driver if there's a kernel update without having to do any babysitting manually.
I do everything on Linux now, Office work, Rustdev and I play games like BG3/Guildwars2 simply by launching them from Steam.
The only pain is that I have to configure each application manually to use Wayland, that's a bother.
I’m 100% Linux on a 5950x and a 5700xt. I’ve had pretty much no trouble at all. The GPU works out of the box, and with the exception of enabling Proton for non-verified games, I’ve only ever had to click install and play. To be fair though, I only play single-player/non-competitive games, so I don’t worry about anticheat at all.
These days Windows games give me less grief on Linux than they ever did on Windows.
I’ve run an rx580 and am currently running a 7900xtx. I have very few issues. Every once in a while a few games will break when I update Mesa, but I’m on a rolling release distro, so that’d probably happen less often on something like Ubuntu. Honestly I probably have fewer issues on Linux than I did on windows.
I’m team red on Linux all the way. Ryzen 5 2600 (soon upgraded) + 6750XT. Mesa works out of the box and hasn’t broken yet. The only thing that caught me off-guard is having to manually enable VKD3D for newer DX12 games – I recommend using a launcher like Heroic (very easy, Steam-like front-end for several stores) or Lutris (universal, exposes more advanced options) to manage your games. You should also look at ProtonDB for compatibility and tweaking tips, and Lutris install scripts in case a game needs a specific framework to be installed.
There are still a lot of games that expect some XWindows stuff. I’ve run into it, but not too frequently.
Generally, the fix is setting an environment variable that tells a library backend to expect Wayland - something they could do in code with minimal effort. It kinda makes me wonder if there’s some common ‘port your game to steam/Linux!’ tutorial that they’re following.
Wow, you nearly described the same experiences I had just recently - when I installed steam and a few games for the first time on Linux. And I was also like “Oh, what? It actually works!!”
I immediately shrunk my windows on dual boot and will likely uninstall it completely in near future. No need for bloated windows anymore
Yeah, I nuked my windows drive about a year ago, there’s still some games I’d like to play that don’t work, but they’re few enough that I just don’t play them and don’t really mind.
I’m a Linux virgin and I’m working to install my first distro ever this week. Ngl, it’s daunting. I’m not tech illiterate but damn it’s so hard to know where to even start
EDIT: got lots of replies while I was trying to save my WSL2 files from before I upgraded windows (unsuccessfully) but I’ve been eyeing nobara and will give it a try tomorrow or friday, thx for all the replies
EDIT2: hoping to learn how to dual-boot with separate drives before actually installing
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed has worked well on my laptop running lighter games. I’ve not tried anything on my main PC yet because I’m honestly worried about compatibility* but OPs’ post gave me hope.
I fired up Horizon Zero Dawn by clicking play. Which is wild compared to back when I tried to understand wine for Word back on 12.04. Super slick! Ubuntu 23.04 with Steam flatpak.
Someone responded that you should install a gaming centric distro for your first rodeo. We’re all entitled to an opinion, but I couldn’t disagree more.
Linux Mint. It’s a breeze to install, and it’ll help you learn without being too intense until you’re ready to graduate to EndeavourOS or vanilla arch. Mint is the perfect place to get your sea legs.
Keep good backups of anything you care about, so you can let yourself make mistakes and learn in the command line. Wipe and reinstall is a viable option when you break shit, and once you’ve done it a few times you’ll get good at configuring your system back to where you had it before you broke it. Takes me like 20 minutes.
I had issues at one point, but it was right after a major version release, and they were fixed not long after. Mint is my number one recommendation to anyone getting started. If I ever get tired of a rolling release, it’s likely what I’ll go back to.
I remember the first time I managed to run Doom outside of the usual “point-and-click mentality” on ZorinOS. It felt like I went back to the DOS era where I had to do the good ol’ SETUP.EXE to setup the soundcard, etc. But yeah – you’ve got to let go your “do it for me” mentality and start to get used to do the stuff yourself. But it gets easier when you get used to it.
We went from a time where you had to rebuild your fucking kernel to get your graphics card to work and fucking around with Wine to get to a point where you nearly throw your PC out the window until you can get a little app to run to simply running apt install nvidia-driver-xxx and clicking on a button to make a Windows game run in Linux.
I have fond memories of getting World of Warcraft working on Linux back in ~2008 only to realize it had an OpenGL mode that ran better than the DirectX mode I was trying - and failing - to get working.
You aren’t wrong about kernel and driver shenanigans.
I only recently got an update from a mailing list thread I had submitted something to about WINE not using dual cores in WoW.... That threw me right back
Not sure about the latest version, but it definitely works with Proton, google an anime game launcher (it’s likely against the TOS as there’s no kernel-side anti-cheat and telemetry gets disabled but so far no one got banned).
Wow sorry, that’s good to know. I didn’t know the launcher could also be used with Honkai. I’ve been playing Genshin Impact for close to two months with that launcher and I haven’t been banned yet, it could be that Honkai’s checks are stricter?
Were you playing it by the time it launched? Back when Star Rail launched, it was quite tricky because they still were working on it, but nowadays it is going smooth and there haven't had any ban reports in check logs 5 months
I haven't really tested StarRail, but Genshin has been working flawless for months. Went from brand new account to finishing Inazuma questline and now getting into Fontaine with 0 issues(aside from one time where DXVK messed me up, but that's due to my graphics card being a ancient relic XP)
Also, tip, don't enable the FPS Unlocker. It says it makes you get detected by the anti-cheat, but I never faced this, but it seems to lag the game out? Like, with it enabled, I can't even get near Dragonspire
Even if it works (which it does), it’s dangerous to play any MHY game on Linux, as you almost definitely will get banned. There’s a project I was using to play Honkai that supposedly disabled telemetry, but I still got a week-long ban. I currently play in a Windows VM by passing an extra GPU through, but that’s not foolproof either and is also technically ban-worthy.
To add to this, I’m also reporting that since a Genshin Patch in June or July (3.8?), genshin launcher and the game just work without any issues. Installed through Lutris, using the normal launcher installation (so not the one that did the patches).
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