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capital , in Linux is officially at 99% for me.

I also recently made the switch and was pleasantly surprised at how many games I could still play, even “Windows only” titles. Though my requirements are nowhere near yours as I don’t have VR or HOTAS.

I’m still rocking an NVIDIA 1060… What’s the Linux community consensus on NVIDIA vs AMD? Because I think it’s about time to upgrade.

bigmclargehuge OP ,
@bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world avatar

AMD is generally a much better experience overall, but a handful of things are worse than NVidia (off the top of my head, Ray Tracing, AI, and Emulators. AMD cards tend to have graphical glitches in emulators even on Windows. They can be mitigated, and aren’t universal but they are an issue).

In my experience, AMD is the way to go. My old GTX 1080 was a beast and put in great work, but just had too many naggling stability issues that constantly got in the way of enjoying it. Been really happy with my AMD.

capital ,

AMD being preferred was my sense of the situation so it’s good to have that confirmed. Looks like I need to get more familiar with that family of cards.

bigmclargehuge OP ,
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AMD’s naming scheme is honestly similar to Nvidias. They have X600, X700, etc (the “X” being the generation of card, the second digit being the model).

So for example, the current gen is the 7000 series, with the 7600 being the lowest, and roughly analogous to the 4060, and the 7900 to the 4090. There are also XT versions which is AMD’s version of the Ti line. They have more VRAM, higher clocks, overclocking, etc.

I’d look at the 6700XT, or the one I have which is the 7600XT. Both have similar specs, the 7600XT is more recent with better performance in a couple areas, but the 6700XT is tried and true, and you’ll be more likely to find a good deal on it. The 7600XT only came out a couple months ago and isn’t anywhere near as well established, but IMO it performs excellent at good temps without any tweaks. Both are great for 1080p or 1440p with modern games.

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  • bigmclargehuge OP ,
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    Thanks for the info. Looks like I still need to do some more research of my own lol.

    Flaky , (edited ) in 5 reasons why desktop Linux is finally growing in popularity
    @Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    There’s still some stuff I’m tied to Windows for, namely music players (MusicBee and Apple Music but they can be used in a VM) and VR. But it’s nice to see Linux growing.

    cookie_sabotage ,

    What music player is tying you to Windows?

    Flaky , (edited )
    @Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    MusicBee. Tried it on WINE. Not great. Linux players also don’t do a lot of what MusicBee does OOTB, and if they do it’s not as seamless as MusicBee. (tag hierarchies are the main thing, but the playlist functionality is also good.)

    Thankfully it runs fine in a virtual machine.

    ElectricAirship ,
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    Musicbee was the only thing keeping me from switching for years. Simply put, it’s the best music player and even better is that it’s open source.

    nekusoul ,
    @nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

    AFAIK MusicBee isn’t open source, just Freeware. Which is fair enough if the dev doesn’t want to, but also a bit frustrating personally, as people could’ve improved Linux support considerably if it was.

    wingsfortheirsmiles ,

    Even having moved to Linux, I miss Foobar. Deadbeef isn’t that dissimilar but isn’t quite close though for me

    ramirezmike ,

    music players??

    QuandaleDingle ,

    Bruh, just use Spotify or VLC, XD. But VR, I think I can understand.

    luci_tired ,

    vlc sucks for music because it doesn’t have gapless playback, and not everyone wants to use a streaming service.

    Peter1986C ,
    @Peter1986C@lemmings.world avatar

    My music player suggestions for local playback on Linux. Please note that you could pick any of these no matter the desktop environment if you do not care about consistently in look and feel. In that case I suggest to go with Strawberry.

    • On GTK environments: Rhythmbox, Exaile
    • On QT environments: Strawberry, Clementine and somewhere next year Amarok should be through its revival that KDE has announced not too long ago.
    everett ,

    I’d add Quod Libet as another solid GTK pick, though I’m happily using it on KDE.

    Flaky ,
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    Quod Libet was one I tried. Doesn’t quite scratch the itch MusicBee gives me, but still solid nonetheless. Tauon Music Box is a gorgeous looking player that’s similar.

    Flaky ,
    @Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    Not to mention, Apple Music is so much better than Spotify for my needs and Cider isn’t cutting it for me right now. Once they’re not as reliant on MusicKit, I might give it a go again.

    meldrik ,

    What’s your issue with Cider, if you don’t mind me asking?

    Flaky , (edited )
    @Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

    When I’ve used it, gapless playback being non-existent due to it basically being a frontend to the web client/MusicKit for web. I listen to a lot of albums in full nowadays, so that can really hurt the experience. It’s a shame because everything else about it is great. I am aware that the Cider devs are trying to find ways of handling that without reliance on the web client/API, which might enable gapless but also stuff like lossless if you got AM for that.

    Edit: I should mention that Cider has a new client that’s paid but still supports Linux (specifically with AppImage, .deb and .rpm packages), and my experience was with Cider Classic.

    Edit 2: I bought Cider 2 and so far it’s working well. You sacrifice lossless and maybe some gapless playback still, but it’s a mild loss vs. so far a huge gain in usability.

    QuandaleDingle ,

    Huh, I’ve been using gapless playback on Spotify so much, it’s become natural. Yeah, that’s a must have.

    InFerNo ,

    When you mean gapless do you mean the last and first second are mixed together? I think audacious does that. It’s the player I use.

    luci_tired ,

    Pretty sure you are talking about audio fading, gapless is different. Gapless playback just means audio playback won’t stop when a new song plays. Without it, the audio sounds like it briefly pauses between tracks.

    Kosta554 , (edited )

    Linux VR is slowly growing!

    VR on Linux

    EDIT: updated the link

    Flaky ,
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    Getting 404 on that link. 😩

    Kosta554 ,

    Whoops my bad. Updated the link.

    Telorand , in 5 reasons why desktop Linux is finally growing in popularity

    I wish it was friendlier to Nvidia (though, that’s no fault of the Linux community), because that’s the one hangup for me. I built my rig just a couple years ago around the 3060ti, and the spotty/shoddy support provided by Nvidia (again, not at all the fault of the Linux community) keeps me where I am in the world of Windows.

    Hopefully, NVK can successfully remove that barrier for folks like me, because I run Linux on every other computer I own, and it’s looking very promising that it may be the case sooner than later.

    kusivittula ,

    i have 3060ti too and the only distro that works perfectly is mint, and nvidia driver version 535

    captain_aggravated ,
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    Funnily enough I’ve never had any problem out of my GTX-1080, and I run Mint. Still I’ve heard irritation stories about RTX cards. Which is why my next GPU is gonna be Radeon.

    KpntAutismus ,

    i’m using a 3070 currently, my next GPU will 100% be AMD.

    RecluseRamble ,

    I wish it was friendlier to Nvidia

    You got that one backwards.

    Telorand ,

    I more meant the experience. Linux would be friendly, if Nvidia would get off their high horse.

    breakfastburrito ,

    It’s funny because back in the day the lack of support for amd is what made me choose to go nvidia in the future. Maybe the pendulum will swing back who knows? Kind of surprising it’s not well supported given the popularity / importance of cuda.

    Telorand ,

    It’s the ol’ spectre of Capitalism come to haunt the market again. Nvidia’s support has always been an afterthought, and given the relatively small share of Linux gamers, “good enough” has been their level of investment.

    I forget when AMD went open source, but I think it was that move that has brought them up to competing (surpassing?) with Nvidia in the Linux space. Not only is the support better, but they were able to secure a hold on Steam Deck sales, and with Linux gaming improving as a result of upstreamed fixes, now they’re becoming the better option for people who want to dump Windows but still play games (Nvidia even leeches off those improvements and ports them into their own code).

    If Nvidia would go open source, the Linux community wouldn’t have to reverse-engineer everything re: Nouveau and NVK, and they might be a stronger competitor again.

    VinesNFluff , in How are you all partitioning your setup?
    @VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

    Nvme ssd, 480 gigs = Linux root ext4, with a smol /boot/efi/ partition

    Sata ssd, 480 gigs = windows install

    Hdd, 1 Tb = Linux home ext4

    External usb3.0 2tb Hdd = shared storage exFat

    Empricorn , in How are you all partitioning your setup?

    My GPT setup:

    • sda (SSD) ntfs 477 GiB Windows
    • sdb (SSD) ext4 224 GiB Linux
    • sdc (HDD) ntfs 931 GiB Windows Storage
    • sdd (HDD) ext4 931 GiB Linux Storage

    I only use half of each drive for its stated purpose. Then I backup onto a different drive in case of hardware failure. (This obviously does not protect against fire or theft.) Not exactly what you asked, but I’d already started copy/pasting…

    forbiddenlake , in Backup Game Saves Solutions?
    @forbiddenlake@lemmy.world avatar

    Ludusavi does it all for you, works great, and the dev implemented my feature request within a few weeks (handling a mounted Windows drive better)

    github.com/mtkennerly/ludusavi

    PoorPocketsMcNewHold ,

    Quick question : What is your need of using Windows drives ? (Except if you are dual-booting, in that case, except for specific modding cases, why would you want to use it/mount it on Linux ?)

    For my own curiosity, you can generally install all Windows games via wine easily (except counter-claims)

    xkforce , in How are you all partitioning your setup?

    I dont even want to think about how many partitions there are on my PC. windows has 4 or 5 just existing, then there’s root, home and swap plus 2 more for the 2 other drives. So… 9 or 10? its been a while since I had a reason to care.

    As for what you should do, if you are replacing windows, it wont really matter what the format on the windows part is because youre going to need to back up the save data and reinstall those games eventually anyway. You cant really run the same game installs on both OSes.

    ober , in How are you all partitioning your setup?
    @ober@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I have 4 drives. An NVMe drive with four partitions: 500MB /boot 64GB Swap 100GB / and the rest of the 1TB goes to /home. Then I have a 1TB SSD for games which is mounted to ~/Games. Then I have two 1TB HDDs, one for Music mounted to ~/Music and another for Torrents mounted to ~/Torrents. I also have an 8TB HDD coming which will be another torrents drive

    million OP ,
    @million@lemmy.world avatar

    Unrelated aside, I like running torrents on my NAS because I almost always have that on, plus I have ZFS on it so all the data is reasonable durable.

    ober ,
    @ober@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I’d love to get a NAS but i’m a bit too stingy. That definitely sounds like a better solution than just leaving my machine on 24/7.

    poVoq , in Linux is officially at 99% for me.
    @poVoq@slrpnk.net avatar

    Interesting that ALVR works on Wayland. Because regular SteamVR seems to be borked on Wayland ever since the SteamVR 2.0 update :(

    bigmclargehuge OP ,
    @bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ve actually never tried on X11. I will admit, using VR seems to cause some issues with the rest of my desktop (Plasma ocassionally needs to be reloaded). However in the grand scheme, I can get past that for now considering it doesn’t cause any gameplay issues.

    Rustmilian ,
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    Valve did say that they’d be improving SteamVR on Linux quite a while ago, it’s just going to take awhile because it not their main priority atm.

    FrederikNJS , in How are you all partitioning your setup?
    • 1TB NVMe SSD
      • 512 MB EFI
      • BTRFS partition for / filling up the rest
    • Ancient 128 GB SATA SSD
      • Swap
    • 1TB SATA SSD
      • 500 GB Windows installation for VR games
      • 500 GB BTRFS partition mounted at /mnt/games

    Since both my root and home are on the same BTRFS partition they share space.

    I have made sure to create sub volumes for the Steam and Game install directories, to avoid taking snapshots of them.

    Steam has 2 “libraries” registered, one in my home directory and one in /mnt/games

    million OP ,
    @million@lemmy.world avatar

    Two libraries sound good, but I heard the Steam Flatpak has issues with libraries on multiple drives. Haven’t had a chance to try it myself.

    xyguy , in Linux is officially at 99% for me.

    I finally have Windows banished to a VM, only to be awoken for the 3 times a year I need a desktop version of PowerPoint.

    I’m with you. 99% of the way there.

    Rustmilian , (edited )
    @Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

    Have you considered any of the PowerPoint alternatives?

    Asidonhopo , in Linux is officially at 99% for me.

    If only I could play Rust on it, it would be at 100% for me

    Rustmilian ,
    @Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

    Well… Technically you can, you just can’t play on servers with AntiCheat activated.

    Sanctus , in Linux is officially at 99% for me.
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    I have nothing to add except that ED with VR and hotas controllers is one of the best VR spaceflight experiences out there. Dogfighting with that setup is unparalleled. Being able to watch your target as you flip over them to their tail just gets my jimmies jumpin’.

    bigmclargehuge OP ,
    @bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world avatar

    My jam was always turning off flight assist and just tossing a small ship through an asteroid belt. Haven’t played much since Odyssey but I recently got the itch again

    F04118F , in Linux is officially at 99% for me.

    I am like you but a year behind. I hope to get there too at some point. Switched to Linux for the majority of my pc use and a lot of games. But my VR flight sim and the occasional racing is holding me back. I have an HP Reverb G2 (Windows Mixed Reality) headset which doesn’t work very well on Linux (yet?) and an Nvidia RTX 3080.

    There doesn’t seem to be an ideal Linux VR setup yet, now that SteamVR still does not work with Wayland. Hoping they’ll fix it and then I can sidegrade to a Valve Index and an RX 6900 XT and be set. I don’t like the complexity and latency of wireless streaming.

    bigmclargehuge OP ,
    @bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah, it’s definitely not ideal at the moment, loads better than it used to be though.

    I’ve heard that Valve has a linux native version of the Steam Link VR app in the pipeline, hopefully it comes within the next year or so.

    neidu2 , in 5 reasons why desktop Linux is finally growing in popularity

    I can list the biggest one without having to look: Because the most popular alternative has progressively gotten worse for the past 12 years, and what was once a quality OS (sure,it had its faults and flaws, but I’ll concede that Win7 was objectively a good OS) has now morphed into a combination of spyware and adware.

    anamethatisnt ,

    Microsoft being uninterested in Windows Desktop and focusing on Saas and the cloud is indeed the first bullet point.

    1. Microsoft isn’t that interested in Windows
    2. Linux gaming, thanks to Steam, is also growing
    3. Users are finally figuring out that some Linux distros are easy to use
    4. Finding and installing Linux desktop software is easier than ever
    5. The Linux desktop is growing in popularity in India
    henfredemars ,

    I get the sense that Microsoft doesn’t care about their desktop users and as much as views desktop as another small side market.

    MacOS only runs on their particular hardware, so Linux is free to gobble up market share limited mainly by user technical know how and the general shift to most web traffic coming from mobile.

    Linkerbaan ,
    @Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

    Users aren’t finding it out. The distros just actually got usable and stopped being super elitists.

    dan1101 ,

    Also the updates situation has caused many to dislike Windows.

    Linux is a perfectly viable OS at this point, it’s not just for tech geeks. I did have a problem with my USB Wi-Fi adapter during the install but other than that everything was just as smooth and less creepy than Microsoft.

    grue ,

    what was once a quality OS (sure,it had its faults and flaws, but I’ll concede that Win7 was objectively a good OS) has now morphed into a combination of spyware and adware.

    The last objectively good Microsoft OS that didn’t have any significant user-hostile features was Windows 2000, IMO. Windows 7 – specifically, before invasive “telemetry[sic]” started getting backported to it from 10 – was just the last version before the hostility got bad enough to get me to switch.

    khannie ,
    @khannie@lemmy.world avatar

    The last objectively good Microsoft OS that didn’t have any significant user-hostile features was Windows 2000, IMO

    Hard agree. Windows 2000 was rock solid, reasonably lightweight and had no shenanigans going on in the background. It’s EOL (edit: actually I think it might have been a specific version of directx only being supported on XP maybe) was one of the things that pushed me to Linux.

    That and the native Linux Unreal Tournament 2004.

    rah ,

    objectively good Microsoft OS

    ROFL

    grue ,

    Okay, let me rephrase: to the extent that any Microsoft OS could be described as “objectively good,” Windows 2000 was the last one of them.

    rah ,

    Okay, let me rephrase for you: in choosing which of Microsoft’s stinking piles of shit was the least stinky, some people chose Windows 2000. However, most people just left the stinky area and didn’t look back.

    grue ,

    You do realize I was conceding your point, right? You don’t have to be a jerk about it.

    Joker ,

    Windows 2000 was a good operating system by any measure. It was rock solid, capable, well-supported, could scale from desktop to large enterprise deployments and everything in between, reasonably secure compared to their previous operating systems, etc. I never did like Microsoft operating systems, but Windows 2000 was actually good. It was a breath of fresh air at the time. We had NT 4, which was stable and reliable, but was limited by a lack of DirectX and became cumbersome in large deployments. Then we had Windows 95/98/ME, which was the garbage that crashed all the time.

    rah ,

    Windows 2000 was a good operating system by any measure

    ROFL

    A_Random_Idiot ,

    Besides the backported bullshit from windows 10 (which could be removed, admittedly, you’d have to know it was there, and which package to uninstall…so not exactly newbie friendly), what was hostile about windows 7?

    I used it from release day until EOL and I found it to be the best version of windows ever and the pinnacle of the platform, before it started taking a hard drive with Windows 8 and fell off the cliff with 10/11.

    Windows 10/11 is why I’m on linux now, and on linux to stay.

    grue ,

    Besides the backported bullshit… what was hostile about windows 7?

    “Activation,” same as XP and Vista. That’s why I said 2000 was the last “good” version with no hostile features at all: it was the last version (except for ME, which wasn’t “good”) that didn’t require activation.

    Case ,

    10 was bad. 11 is… awful.

    I’m running it on my daily driver / gaming rig to learn its flaws and how to work around them, because work may be moving that direction. My hardware, my license, not like they can stop me.

    I’ve never had more problems with any OS than 11 on day to day stability issues. Vista? At least it had direct X 10. 8? Yeah, a total design fuck up, but even supporting it professionally I never had this many problems.

    Baggie ,

    Looking back on it, Vista got a lot of hate but I don’t think my experience was that bad. It was really annoying with user account control permissions but honestly as a proto 7 it did okay. Compared to 11 I kind of miss it.

    starman ,
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    That’s 1. point in the article

    jkrtn ,

    “How about subscribing to your own computer? Not now? Ok, see you in a bit.” Even the Windows fans are full of resentment that they have to know which magic numbers to type under which registry entries to actually disable the constant ad screens. And then Windows restores the nag on updates.

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