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2024: The Year Linux Dethrones Windows on the Desktop – Are You Ready?

  • NTSync coming in Kernel 6.11 for better Wine/Proton game performance and porting.
  • Wine-Wayland last 4/5 parts left to be merged before end of 2024
  • Wayland HDR/Game color protocol will be finished before end of 2024
  • Nvidia 555/560 will be out for a perfect no stutter Nvidia performance
  • KDE/Gnome reaching stability and usability with NO FKN ADS
  • VR being usable
  • More Wine development and more Games being ported
  • Better LibreOffice/Word compatibility
  • Windows 10 coming to EOL
  • Improved Linux simplicity and support
  • Web-native apps (Including Msft Office and Adobe)
  • .Net cross platform (in VSCode or Jetbrains Rider)

What else am I missing?

jjjalljs ,

Been seriously thinking of switching to linux for my desktop. I mostly use it for games. Today I was looking at mods for Mass Effect, and the mod manager says in all caps - LINUX IS NOT SUPPORTED :(

There’s probably going to be a lot of that sort of annoyance for years.

Theharpyeagle ,

You might still try using Proton or Lutris to run it. It may be a pain to get working, but hopefully someone out there has a guide for the mod manager you’re using.

urska OP ,

Nah. What hes saying its that they are not supported natively. The game is Gold on protondb, so its playable on Linux. Just use Wine to run your mods. Simple

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Download Ubuntu 24.04

Instant error mesage on boot

APT keyrings are wrong

Need to add old 22.04 to lists to install packages

No CUDAtools support for 24.04 yet

Yeah nah.

GustavoM ,
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

Download Ubuntu 24.04

Found the Windows poser.

Allero ,

I don’t know how many time it should be said.

If you want to go Linux, DO NOT GO FOR UBUNTU

It was a solid choice 10 years ago, but now it’s a piece of headache.

Go Manjaro/EndeavourOS if you need ease of use and relatively bleeding-edge experience. Check Fedora if you want peace of mind. Check Mint once your tools appear in latest mainstream Ubuntu. Do not go for actual Ubuntu.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Using anything aside from Ubuntu is certified headaches when programming. Debian is the least volitile alternative.

If even 24.04 has missing packages when installing stuff compared to 22.04I can’t imagine how bad it would get on an Arch derivative.

DumbAceDragon ,
@DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works avatar

Linux is about on-par with windows xp/7 as it stands, and it has been for a while. The reason people haven’t switched is OEM and software support.

cosmicrookie , (edited )
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

As a new Linux, the hardest time that i have had with it, has been with my hard discs, and having software recognize them or save data on them. Its been a mess to find them on different file explorers and file pickers. I know that longtime users will explain the logic to it, but it is not intuitive. Also understanding root drive, root access and root user. Still not 100% sure i understand it. Things need to get simpler and more self explanatory for Linux to replace windows.

azvasKvklenko ,

I’m a Linux dinosaur user since mid 00’s and I confirm that despite huge efforts to make it as seamless as possible, it still sucks today. The problem is that you even have different file pickers (that’s what xdg-desktop-portal tries to mitigate but some applications will do it the traditional way by including toolkit library and filepicker from it, or they will even implement their own), there’s a great freedom to how drives can be mounted and multiple systems to manage drive mounts. It’s managed by gvfs or kio or something else, the behavior is a little differently every time. There are attempts to handle all automatic mounts in /run/media and while most distros conform to that, some won’t.

What I would recommend is to

  • create your own mountpoints for your internal drives that you don’t expect to change too frequently. It’s done in /etc/fstab. If you’re on KDE, the Partition Manager app can help with setting mount points.
  • your primary desktop file manager (like Dolphin, Nautilus or Caja) probably has option to copy absolute file paths. Sometimes copying them is easier
  • If you see GNOME’s file picker, the path is hidden unless you know magical combination of CTRL+L that shows and allows to edit the path
cosmicrookie ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Good tips thank you!

The major difference for me was that drives are shown in the mnt folder

This is not intuitive but like much other, makes sense once you know it

azvasKvklenko ,

This isn’t intuitive because you can mount anything (mostly) anywhere you want under any path. The whole Linux ecosystem never decided one standard path or mounting method. If you want a disk to be mounted under /home/$USER/Games where /home is also mountpoint to something else, you are free to do so. Desktops automate it and expose UI controls, yet again some apps are from GNOME world, some other from KDE or else and they have different UX and way to expose mounted storage. And I agree it’s not ideal, especially for newcomers.

azvasKvklenko ,

Oh, and two more random tips:

  • commands like df, lsblk or mount can help checking out state of mounted filesystems
  • file pickers usually support drag&drop, whether it’s a file or directory that you drop onto it
cosmicrookie ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Nice thank you!

0x0 , (edited )

Better LibreOffice/Word compatibility

Not on the MS side for sure, they’ve always made sure they don’t follow their own spec so they can more easily vendor-lock. Typical EEE from the company that coined it.

Windows 10 coming to EOL

That, per se, no, both XP and 7 kept existing for years, but 11 around the corner with ads and recall… that may steer some people away. Edit: as will inflated minimum system requirements at every release.

Web-native apps (Including Msft Office and Adobe)

Those are OS-agnostic and a way to keep using MS apps. Office is one of the hardest to let go (because of aforementioned reasons), especially in a corporate environment - which, most likely, is the bulk of MS customers in terms of revenue.

.Net cross platform (in VSCode or Jetbrains Rider)

Until they change something. EEE, remember?

thingsiplay ,

Most people don’t care. And that says someone who replaced his Windows XP when Vista was the newest shit on the market (I also had a Vista laptop back then). With every Windows version people argued and posted about The Year of Linux Desktop. If you are talking about number of users, then Linux on Desktop will not dethrone Windows in 2024. Most people don’t care or the switch is painful in many ways. Don’t get your hopes too high. My following argumentation is critical, but I am a Linux fanboy. Have that in mind.

KDE/Gnome reaching stability and usability

What exactly do you mean by that? KDE and Gnome reached usability long time ago. However thanks to Wayland the stability got a huge hit, plus KDE was always a bit wonky in regard that. But otherwise these are great desktops with good usability for a long time now. Way better than what Apple or Windows has to offer.

Windows 10 coming to EOL

This has never mattered. Most people just switch or buy next Windows version.

.Net cross platform (in VSCode or Jetbrains Rider)

This is not new in 2024, or did something happen here?

Better LibreOffice/Word compatibility

Better than what? Than the previous version? This is always the case and people don’t switch from Windows to Linux because of that. After all, the application is available on Windows too.

… will be … before end of 2024 …

Will be remain to be seen if this is true. If there is one thing I learned is, don’t trust estimation when software will be finished.

NTSync coming in Kernel 6.11 for better Wine/Proton game performance and porting.

This has no impact on Proton, but Wine as far as I understand. Proton already has an alternative that is similar to NTSync. So from performance standpoint, it has no impact on Steam games.

Successful_Try543 ,

Windows 10 coming to EOL

This has never mattered. Most people just switch or buy next Windows version.

Or keep on using Windows 10 and are happy not to be annoyed by updates any more.

wargreymon2023 ,

You are missing the “GNU slash”,

GNU/Linux dethrones Windows

SaltyIceteaMaker ,

Why? There a non gnu linux distros

vzq ,

It’s called “Android”.

SaltyIceteaMaker ,

Well that is one yes. There are more than just one

Dirk ,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

Let me interject for a moment …

lung ,
@lung@lemmy.world avatar

BusyBox/Linux dethrones ur dad

kaffiene ,

I think if I could get xbox game pass running on Linux, I’d be there

yamanii ,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

Same, Persona 3 Reload costs the equivalent of 10 months of gamepass in Brazil, it’s really important for full priced games.

WholeEnchilada ,

I think if I could get everything I run actually running on there without issues I’d be there. Still pondering the steam deck. Haven’t bought it. Will buy it when I can actually do what their slogan says about having my whole library with me anywhere I go.

planish ,

KDE and Gnome haven’t been stable or usable for the past 20 years, but will become so this year for some reason?

phoenixz ,

I’ve noticed a LOT of pushback against the ads in MS shit. Microsoft has become greedy (well what am I saying, they’ve always been, kist really effin more greedy now) and somehow seems to invest even less in development. All Microsoft apps I see today are just painfully painfully bad. Again, not that they’ve ever been particularly good at anything besides keyboards, but lately it’s been comically worse.

I’ve seen Linux desktop grow significantly now, and I really do see it happen that Linux crosses that threshold where there is just no more stopping it

Endorkend ,
@Endorkend@kbin.social avatar

Not even one of those points will accelerate Linux adoption to being with a decade of the snowballing level at which point it could Dethrone Windows.

You been drinking some absinthe or smoking the ganja-weed?

Or just straight up snorting Flakka

DmMacniel ,

Full of optimism. But why those points that relate not in the slightest to the layman? Also sources for half of your points?

Suoko ,
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

Office and Adobe Web native apps? What sources do you have?

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Adobe Web Apps

Office 365

But there’s also the Google Office Suite as another online office suite in addition to Office 365

tigerjerusalem , (edited )

You know that’s not what “native” means, right? Nevermind, me moron can not read.

0x0 ,

Web native.

tigerjerusalem ,

I missed that, my bad.

mactan ,

people can’t handle installing windows, they won’t try anything else en masse either

possiblylinux127 ,

They might just stop using computers

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

Back to the 80s/early 90s where the only people using computers were the ones that actually knew how to use computers? Hell yes, take me back.

Honytawk ,

That is indeed more likely than them switching to Linux.

Us computer nerds don’t understand that because we live our lives surrounded by computers, but there are plenty of households that don’t even have a computer, let alone one they want to switch to a niche OS.

Takumidesh ,

Yes smartphones and tablets have replaced desktops for most general users.

0x0 ,

They can’t handle the Linux!

onlinepersona ,

Good meme, my friend 🤣

Anti Commercial-AI license

possiblylinux127 ,

I used your comment to trail an AI

Sue me

Linus_Torvalds ,
  • Linux in name
  • Disrespectful towards copyleft licenses

Imposter

possiblylinux127 ,

I noticed a few users starting to do this and it annoys me to no end. You don’t need to put a link in every comment

Not to mention anything posted on the internet is effectively public domain

Linus_Torvalds ,

I noticed a few users starting to do this and it annoys me to no end. You don’t need to put a link in every comment

That’s fair. I feel like that would be a more valid criticism.

Not to mention anything posted on the internet is effectively public domain Well, no.

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