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Churbleyimyam , in Are there any modern wifi cards that work with Linux and have 100% FOSS drivers (no proprietary binary blobs)?

I got an Atheros card, which is fine for WiFi on Debian 12 and was cheap to buy. Drivers were in the Debian foss repo. Bluetooth is not working on it though. Interestingly, the Bluetooth did work under PureOS but I never figured out why.

Strit ,
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Interestingly, the Bluetooth did work under PureOS but I never figured out why.

The bluetooth probably needs a non-free firmware blob, as most of them do.

Churbleyimyam ,

Yeah maybe. I would expect PureOS to come with less non-free components though, being that it’s endorsed by the FSF. I was quite surprised that BT was not working after switching to Debian.

codeDude , in Good mouse with good linux support
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phoh OP ,

yes i mean hardware.

people i work with use and love those vertical shaped mice. i find them too weird. that is probably cause i am stuck in my ways.

i have a logitech mx anywhere which i like but the side buttons don’t work very well on linux.

i am really just interested to see what people are using. maybe there is a better one out there for me.

thanks for the recommendation.

codeDude ,
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@phoh probalby you can config the mouse in your distro, for example I'm using KDE, in the settings window I can find a section to set up the mouse

Shdwdrgn ,

Any $5 laser mouse with a scroll wheel from ebay/amazon is fine for me. Plug it in and it just works. I prefer certain shapes for comfort but I’ve never had a mouse NOT work in linux.

Ooops ,
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Mice are so standardized that basically any problem with the basic buttons has to be a configuration issue. I have never seen a mouse not working under Linux. Unless of course you are talking about programmable and RGB stuff coming with proprietary software, but I never understood their appeal (in fact I’m also still prefering cables over batteries over recharging ones -as the internal battery is usually what fails first-).

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MangoPenguin , in What email client are you guys using?
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Honestly there isn’t a good one, Thunderbird is as close as it gets but it’s buggy with things like CardDAV and it’s slow.

thingsiplay , in what do you think of mit??

I like the MIT-License. And don’t care who visited it or not.

velox_vulnus ,

MIT is a harmful license in some scenario. I mean, it has it’s use cases for certain apps, but quite a few softwares out there would really benefit from GPL and AGPL-type licenses.

thingsiplay ,

Any license can be harmful in some scenarios. I like MIT, because its simple and allows basically anything. There are some situations in which GPL is harmful too (such not being able to mix with any type of license) and would benefit from MIT. One can also go from MIT to GPL, but not other way, if everything is licenses in GPL.

For complex programs that are important and where the source code must stay open, GPL is perfect. Like always, every license has its harmful scenarios and its use cases.

gerdesj ,

such not being able to mix with any type of license

GPL licenced software merely has to comply with the GPL - make your changes available to all etc. The whole point of the GPL is to ensure that you can take but enforces that you give back too. It’s the Stone Soup thing.

MIT is loved by say Apple because they can take your work, do their thing and not have to contribute back. To be fair, Appley stuff is now quite a long way away from BSD!

As I’m feeling charitable, I should also point out that CUPS is/was largely Apple driven, as is Avahi/Bonjour. I can deploy a Linux box and expect it to find and setup available printers without having to do anything.

magic_lobster_party ,

GPL can prevent the linking of external and non-free third party libraries. It can add an increased legal complexity to the code base. It’s difficult for MIT licenses to have that “clashing” between licenses.

There are variations to GPL that allow the linking of non-free third party libraries. Either way, consult your lawyer before using GPL code.

LeFantome ,

Well, that is like, your opinion man.

Ok. Obviously different licenses are useful in different circumstances. So, what you are saying is clearly true.

That said, even though the MIT license is the most used license I believe, I wish MIT was used more and GPL less.

I do not want to create or get drawn into a debate ( because we likely have the same facts and just disagree ) but what I dislike about the GPL is that does not respect freedom—specifically developer freedom. It constrains freedom and hopes that what it calls “the 4 freedoms” are a side effect. In my view, the GPL restricts freedom to bestow rights ( a net negative for freedom ).

My opinion is no more valuable than yours. We do not have to convince each other. I am just explaining my view.

Don’t get me wrong, the ability of the original author to choose the GPL is something I totally support. It is a totally valid constraint to place on people that want to use your code. A developer should get to choose the terms under which people can use their code. It is exactly this freedom that the GPL restricts. Again, I think this is totally ok ( as would be demanding money ) but it is certainly a restriction which, by definition, is not freedom.

LordCrom , in What email client are you guys using?

Thunderbird. Hate the redesign. If it ain’t broke dont fix it.

K9 for phone

I still have pgp signs, but no one has used it to encrypt back to me in years. Don’t know why I keep those on there and active

Chewy7324 ,

Thunderbird + K9 Mail are my way to go, too.

Though I mostly do like the redesign, since it fixes some long standing issues with Thunderbird (e.g. not being able to select a multi line message view (“cards view”), instead of the traditional table view.) The search bar being always on top annoys me each time I open it, so I understand a more long time Thunderbird user might have more nitpicks. Almost all of the changes can be reverted through settings, which I find awesome.

communism ,
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I still have pgp signs, but no one has used it to encrypt back to me in years. Don’t know why I keep those on there and active

Me too. I mean if I got an email with someone’s public key attached I’d send an encrypted reply. One day the person you’re emailing will eventually do the same lol. (I mean I do get people sending me encrypted emails sometimes, but most of the time it’s “wtf is this .asc file you’ve attached to this email”)

possiblylinux127 ,

The refactor fixed a ton of issues

velox_vulnus , in what do you think of mit??

I hate them, because university rankings have kind if become a neo-caste system. Ivy League universities are elitist brain-rot. Sure, they house great minds, but the sham that is meritocracy will crumble if everyone in this world had the privilege to start from the same line one the race track.

Just think of it - is advancement of human civilization a dick-measuring contest, or do we prepared folks to be better professionals to excel in the respective field they’ve chosen?

Well, I am not really sure if you should be celebrating MIT, just because Richard Stallman has graduated from there. That’s like saying - we should bomb the fuck out of Harvard for producing graduated that have bought terror in this world through human rights violation of varying degrees?

CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV ,
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Are universities automatically “elitist brain-rot” when they participate in rankings? When it comes to privilege, yes, rich kids that don’t deserve it are accepted into ivy league universities because of the connections they have. This is not a good thing obviously. Most researchers receive the privilege of working there because of their good research done at other universities. That is why they stay on top: a lot of excellent researchers want to join those universities. Obviously MIT has a very good standing when it comes to CS. The dick-measuring contest is but a small part of the university ecosystem. Also, neo-caste system is a quite strong. Most ivy league researchers are probably not rich or powerful. For that you have to look at our “friends” in the C-suite. I understand the sentiment, but I find “hate”, “elitist brain-rot” and “neo-caste system” way too strong.

someacnt_ ,

Yeah, in the more technical/scientific departments, people usually have incredible skills to prove their worth.

CalcProgrammer1 , in Are there any modern wifi cards that work with Linux and have 100% FOSS drivers (no proprietary binary blobs)?
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Even if so, it would likely still have proprietary blobs, just embedded into a ROM or flash chip on the card. Personally, I’d rather have firmware loaded at runtime over hard-coded, at least then the blob is able to be reverse engineered possibly.

possiblylinux127 ,

Intel has entered the chat

sylphio , in What email client are you guys using?

mu4e+mbsync+msmtp

Chewy7324 , (edited ) in Good mouse with good linux support

I personally would make sure to choose a mouse with on-board storage. E.g. most (all?) Logitech mice store DPI and RGB on the mouse, which means it works independent of the OS. At least some other manufacturers require a Windows “driver” to disable RGB and configure DPI, which is annoying as those aren’t available on Linux, and have to be constantly run in the background.

Basic configuration of Logitech mice can be done through Piper on Linux.

Edit: Precision shouldn’t be an issue with any decent mouse sensor. The PixArt PMW 3310 or later is good enough for even gaming and can be found in 20$ mice. Comfort is subjective, but I prefer larger mice where I can put most of my hand on top.

Edit 2: I’ve now read you’re already using a Logitech mouse and are having issue with the the side buttons. What issues do you have with them? My G Pro Wireless side buttons work for going a website back/forward in the web browser, but I don’t use them much.

IrritableOcelot ,

I’ll second the onboard storage, and add that any >3-button mouse should have buttons that map to actual key/character presses. I got a Razer Basilisk Pro on clearance, and it does have onboard storage, so once I turned off the RGB in the windows software on an old laptop, I could get rid of it. What I didn’t realize til later is that the nice little thumb lever can’t be remapped by anything but the Razer software (which has to be running all the time) because it doesnt register as any key combo, it had to be processed through their app to be used. Damn it.

Edit: Have you tried looking at what keycodes the side buttons on your current mouse are mapped to? Sometimes you can intercept that input and make it perform correctly. I haven’t done it on linux yet, but I’m sure there’s an equivalent to AutoHotkey for Linux.

Chewy7324 , (edited )

Using wev (wayland event viewer, which shows pressed keys) the side buttons show up as extra mouse buttons, so it should be possible to remap them.


<span style="color:#323232;">button: 272 (left)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">button: 273 (right)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">button: 274 (middle)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">button: 275 (side) <- side button
</span><span style="color:#323232;">button: 276 (extra)  <- side button
</span>

PS: My old Logitech G710+ keyboard has some extra buttons which show up as normal numbers, which makes them pretty much useless. A while ago I found the now abandoned sidewinderd project which adds support for them. It’s sad that those manufacturers don’t create proper standards for these kind of things and instead hack it together somehow.

IrritableOcelot ,

I’m still on an X11 session, so I used xinput --test-xi2 to look at it, and yeah. The thumb key doesn’t register any type of event. Weird, right?

MrScruff ,
IrritableOcelot ,

Ooooo thank you! A lifesaver.

404 , in Good mouse with good linux support

I was looking for a mouse recently. My priorities were:

  • Comfortable (i.e. vertical; after getting used to it I’m not looking back)
  • Standard format replaceable battery, since built-ins always end up depleting or swelling and being hard to replace
  • Nice scroll wheel (highly subjective though)
  • Easy switching between Linux and Windows systems
  • Small-ish, portable

I got the Logitech Lift. I am pleasantly surprised by how nice it is.

Granted I mostly use my mouse for browsing, scrolling and navigating UIs. The rest is all keyboard. For games I prefer controllers and game pads so precision/high performance wasn’t an issue for me at all.

jordanlund , in Using linux with 2 partitions, how do you do it and how do you organize your files?
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Symlinks. It doesn’t matter which partition they’re on.

www.futurelearn.com/info/courses/…/201767

gerdesj , in What email client are you guys using?

Evolution. It works with MS Exchange.

I have an elderly and rather unloved Gmail account for testing and spam reception only and a couple of Yubi keys so I’ll see what I can do with them. I probably ought to use the Gmail account more but I’m concerned that Google will kill it off 8) I got it when the G stood for gigabyte because everyone else set quotas in the 10s or low 100s of megabytes. “Do no evil” Google were as cool as fuck but that was a long time ago. Sad really.

jcarax ,

I was surprised to see it doesn’t suck anymore, I’m using it with my mailbox.org and old gmail account. The state of Wayland native email clients isn’t great, I’m really not sure what I’m going to do when I eventually switch to Cosmic.

vinayv ,

I set up Evolution for my work office365 account. It worked exactly for 2 days. Now, it constantly keeps asking for password again and again and nothing shows up. I’m trying out Thunderbird with Owl plugin (trial) and that works flawlessly. Any tips on getting it to work on Evolution?

just_another_person , in Using linux with 2 partitions, how do you do it and how do you organize your files?

Don’t use an NTFS partition?

You can use NTFS as read/write under Linux, it’s just not absolutely safe to fix if you hitna corruption snag, which will almost inevitably happen.

You can also use any other filesystem that works on both Linux and Windows. Use FAT32 if you want to be super safe. I believe BTRFS works as well. There’s lots of combinations, just look them up.

Drathro ,

I have personal experience with BTRFS and Windows. And that experience is that it’s roughly as stable/complete as NTFS is for Linux. 6 of one and a half dozen the other. I can’t recommend either situation for guaranteed stability long term between systems if one really needs to swap between the OS’s frequently while accessing all the same files.

gerdesj ,

So use either and do ensure you make proper backups, with some reasonable history (retention policy)

semperverus ,
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I’ve found exFAT to be a bit smoother in operation, but really old devices dont care for it (SD cards).

Tyoda , in Using linux with 2 partitions, how do you do it and how do you organize your files?

You can just mount it in a folder in your home directory. This is not a weird thing to do.

I too had an NTFS partition at first. Definitely not great, since it trashes your file permissions. I was glad to be rid of it when I binned the other OS.

sarmale OP ,

Woud that be /home/username/SATA (SATA is my ntfs partition) or /home/username (where user will be deleted and will be replaced with my partition)?

Tyoda ,

In this case definitely the first. Just make a new directory (name doesn’t matter: SATA, Files, data…) and use your distro’s tool to change the mount point (Disks on GNOME and derivatives, or just edit fstab yourself)

schwim , in What email client are you guys using?

Betterbird

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