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merthyr1831 , in Is NixOS at the advent of an implosion? | Community inquiry on recent drama

There’s some decent forks currently so I wouldn’t worry about the technology, but yeah the organisation is probably going to implode and reorg soon

SitD , in Has anyone got KDE Plasma 6 - Wayland running on Arch using an NVIDIA GPU?

I’m on endeavour, though i also really liked manjaro. in terms of nvidia+wayland I’d say it’s very flaky.

  • vrr works SOMETIMES. i have to log out and in 2-3 times into my account until the option shows in the settings, and also functions as proven using vrrtest-git
  • standby corrupts cuda and you’ll need to modprobe or reboot to fix it.
  • hdr shows up but looks really grey and colorless for me, but it might be my monitor’s edid being faulty. kde’s sdr color vibrance option didn’t help.
  • external screens are dropping frames, down to 30fps, where it was fine on windows with 60.

Keep in mind this is a 3060 laptop gpu. that means it could well be due to mux switching or whatever else. nonetheless i think nvidia seems more reliable on xorg as of this point in time, and I’m not going to buy another nvidia gpu.

this might not apply to desktop cpus at all but i thought I’d share these in case someone else has the issues as well and knows a fix, or knows for sure it’s better on desktop, so i can reconsider my stance for a tower build 🤔

bear , in Is NixOS at the advent of an implosion? | Community inquiry on recent drama

You should know that the guy you cited in the second link, Srid, is a well-known right-wing shit-stirrer who is banned from basically all NixOS spaces because he cannot peacefully coexist. He literally gets up day after day with the seemingly sole purpose of fueling drama and causing problems. Don’t take his opinion at face value, he wants to see the project burn down and this colors his interpretation of events.

NixOS is going through a rocky moment for sure, but there’s no indication it will implode currently.

bsergay OP ,

Thank you for mentioning who he is and what his goals are!

refalo ,

which is hilarious because any time I make comments like that, they get removed.

refalo ,

He literally gets up day after day with the seemingly sole purpose of fueling drama and causing problems

That’s funny because I feel like that’s exactly what all these self-proclaimed “gender terrorist” SJWs are doing to projects in the first place.

laughterlaughter ,

Why the whataboutism?

refalo ,

I had to look up what that word means. It sounds like calling something whataboutism could itself be considered whataboutism. Anyways, I was merely making an observation with no ulterior motive, I was not trying to discredit or shift any focus away from the original argument. Apologies if that wasn’t clear.

bear ,

You made one reply to me whining that I attacked the person by pointing out his beliefs, and then made another reply to me about “gender terrorist SJWs”. Do you just lack any form of self-awareness?

refalo ,

I think we should attack the arguments made and not the people, seems a bit hypocritical IMO.

bear ,

I attacked his beliefs which is perfectly valid. You should critically examine the motives and biases of people who feed you information.

refalo ,

I am critically examining your responses and I believe that you are making personal attacks.

bear , (edited )

Criticizing people’s past and current actions relating to the subject and bringing up their direct history relavent to the subject is not a personal attack, nor is it out of line to point out he does his to advance his political agenda within the project, which is why he got banned in the first place. All of this directly relates to the subject at hand.

You know what doesn’t relate to the subject at hand? Your random little “sjw gender terrorists” comment. But it does make it rather clear why you want to obfuscate the facts about Srid’s history with the project, subsequent ban, and continued amplification of drama and general shit-stirring ever since.

pineapplelover , in What email client are you guys using?

Proton web and mobile client. Also thunderbird

boredsquirrel , in What email client are you guys using?
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Thunderbird on Fedora Kinoite and GrapheneOS ;) even though the Android version is still named K-9, based on Android Mail and waaaay smaller.

poinck , in What email client are you guys using?

I recently (months ago) switched back to Evolution from Thunderbird. I used both of them several years. I had a webmail phase in between. Thunderbird has/had enoying issues displaying mail threads.

For calender I switched to gnome-calendar, because it looks very modern.

BitSound , in Is NixOS at the advent of an implosion? | Community inquiry on recent drama

My take on it is that the creator of Nix was very good technically but was not a good BDFL, and that was the root of the problem. He didn’t do a good job of politicking, stepped down, and now Nix is going through a bit of interregnum. I don’t think it’s likely to fail overall though, nixpkgs is too valuable of a resource to just get abandoned. I expect the board seats will be filled by people that know how to politick, and things will continue on after that.

Lessons learned is being a BDFL is hard. IMO Eelco Dolstra failed because he had opinions about things like Anduril sponsorship and flakes, and didn’t just declare “This is the way things are going to be, take it or leave it”. People got really pissed off because there wasn’t a clear message or transparency, which resulted in lots of guessing.

refalo ,

IMO politics have no place in technical discussions. Full disclosure, the last time I said this, my comment was removed for “transphobia”… somehow.

macaroni1556 ,

What you call politics (US political “issues”) and politicking (the act of seeking and organizing power or influence) are different things.

Maybe US political issues have no spot in tech but politics are a part of being human.

BitSound ,

Exactly, thanks. “politicking” != US political issues

SMillerNL ,

Building an open source project is not just a technical challenge. It’s a social one as well, and politics are a big factor in that.

bsergay OP ,

Thank you for your input! I would love to read more on this. Do you happen to know a good source wherein Eelco Dolstra’s leadership is discussed (as fair as possible)?

BitSound ,

Unfortunately there isn’t one easy source that I’ve found. This is based on reading the stuff you linked to, as well as discourse/matrix discussions linked to from those sources. I compare it mentally to Guido van Rossum as BDFL of Python (though not any longer). He did a much better job of communicating expectations, like here

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/72462884-be00-46d1-86d0-f723783d23fd.png

It made some people unhappy that there was no Python 2.8, but everybody knew what was happening. The core Python team also wasn’t surprised by that announcement, unlike with stuff like Anduril or flakes for the nix devs.

There was also a failure to communicate with stuff like the PR that would switch to Meson. The PR author should have known if Eelco broadly agreed with it before opening it. If there was a process that the PR author just ignored, the PR should have been closed with “Follow this process and try again”. That process can be as simple as “See if Eelco likes it”, since he was BDFL, but the process needs to be very clear to everyone.

bsergay OP ,

Thank you for your insights! I appreciate it!

techarmy , in What email client are you guys using?

I’m using Evolution on Arch and Debian and works just fine for me.

Combateye , in What email client are you guys using?

Proton web and Android app

cygnus ,
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The desktop app (Electron) works well FWIW

SirBoostALot , in What are the applications that I can remove from Mint? + Mini Rant.
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@gpstarman THIS is the reason I don't use Mint. I am otherwise the perfect candidate, more or less - I only want to USE an OS, not LEARN it, and all else being equal I much prefer using a GUI to a command line. But the big thing is I don't want problems that have to be solved in order to use my computer. I want Linux to be as easy to use as MacOS and when I say I don't want to do something a certain way, I don't want a bunch of momma's basement dwellers ganging up on me to tell me that's the only "right" way to do it (in truth that is seldom the case). Also, I don't want to be forced into the Canonical way of doing things (Ubuntu is turning into more and more of a shitshow with each new release, in my opinion).

The problem with Mint is that it tries to appeal to Windows users, and Windows users are used to having their machine come with a shit ton of preinstalled crap. Well I am not saying the Linux apps provided with Mint are crap, just that there are far too many of them, and most of them are things I would never use. Why they don't let you start with a minimal system and then let you add the software you want is beyond me. Well, unless you are trying to appeal only to Windows users who for some reason expect that.

And to those who say why not just start with Debian, well the problem with that is the minute you run something like Debian other Debian other users ASSume you want to LEARN Linux (I don't - REALLY, I DON'T) and therefore if you have any issues the first thing they do is say why didn't you read the man page or something equally stupid. I didn't read the fucking man page because man pages are written by PROGRAMMERS in a way that only other programmers can understand (with some rare exceptions). I don't want to have to read ANYTHING, I don't want there to be problems in the first place or if there are I want a GUI-based program that will fix them.

As an example I set up a media center PC to run Kodi and decided to try Debian with the XFCE desktop. I ran into a few issues but the big one was it didn't automatically mount my external hard drives. Well the hard drive names have spaces in them. And of course every solution I found was to use fstab, So I tried that, escaping the spaces in the drive name with backslashes, which works almost everywhere in Linux, but apparently not in fstab. And fstab is too stupid to just skip over a line it doesn't like; instead it stops the computer from booting normally. So when I rebooted the computer, it went into a black screen with a login prompt and NOTHING I could do after that would let me remove that line from fstab (because fstab is apparently a protected file in some way; even using sudo nano would not make it writeable). So I just started over from scratch, because again, I DON'T want to "LEARN" Linux, I just want to use it, and starting over took far less time then it would have taken me to figure out the "correct" way to do it.

But I still had the drive mount issue and I just wanted to mount the damn drives without using fstab (for obvious reasons - once burned...)- I know Ubuntu mounts USB connected drives automatically at boot, so why doesn't Debian? Anyway I asked in a forum and the one thing I requested is "PLEASE don't suggest fstab" and I explained why. Guess what almost EVERY response was? Both suggestions that fstab was the ONLY way (it isn't) or that I should have figured out how to resolve the inability to edit fstab using some obscure program I have never heard of before. (For anyone else with this issue, check out a little program called udevil; that was what worked for me as long as I set it up to run at each reboot, I have also since heard you can use some kind of gnome disk utility that also works under XFCE and will let you mount disks at startup). And boy do those people get pissed off when you don't just accept their "expert" advice even though they are telling you to do the ONE thing they were requested NOT to suggest (I had actually already tried most of what they had suggested anyway).

So that is the conundrum - you want a Linux distro that's not Ubuntu, but that is designed for people who couldn't care less about "learning" Linux any more than they want to "learn" MacOS or Windows. And from what I understand Mint is great for those people IF you can put up with all the random software they install by default; it's very seldom you run into weird issues in Mint (that also USED to be true of Ubuntu). Whereas in some other Linux distros (even Debian to some degree) some users think that half the "fun" is solving problems (I can't believe some people think that is fun!). But one big impediment to Linux adoption is you still have the old fart Linux users that haunt the forums and just don't understand that things aren't like they were 20 years ago, that most people don't want to struggle with an operating system nor search half the Internet in search of solutions, and that being "spoon fed" answers is something they now expect (especially now that AI's do exactly that, even if they are sometimes wrong). There ARE users that DO enjoy that sort of problem solving, just like there are people who enjoy tinkering with cars even though most of us just want to drive them and not have them give us problems. The people who enjoy getting into the guts of an operating system or a car will always be in the minority, and the rest of us kind of hate them when they talk down to us in a condescending manner or act like we just don't want to put in whatever they think is some required amount of effort (no, we really don't, because it shouldn't be difficult in the first place!).

gpstarman OP ,

Are you a mind reader, cause you said everything in my mind exactly as it is.

telling you to do the ONE thing they were requested NOT to suggest

Infuriating stuff.

Thank you for understanding.

Also some other person suggested installing basic debian and then install Cinnamon DE. By doing this, you can get the perks of Cinnamon(updates, kernal updates, software manager etc…) and minimalism of Debian. I don’t know how true it is though. I’m gonna try it on a VM.

Ephera , in What email client are you guys using?

Thunderbird had a redesign not too long ago. I mean, maybe you still consider it old-fashioned, but did you check you’re on the latest version?

Land_Strider ,

Switched from the default win10 mail app to thunderbird about a year ago when the mail app started forcibly updating to the outlook and broke some shit on my windows installation to use a whole lot of resources. I quite liked the old mail app of the windows, but Thunderbird is quite enough of a replacement at default settings and much more customizable after fiddling. K9 has no difference than Gmail on default settings, either.

HubertManne , in 7 Essential Linux Terms Explained: Distro, DE, Repos, and More

lol. could not remember what DE stood for.

SeikoAlpinist , in What email client are you guys using?

alpine

antonamo ,

+dovecoat & postfix? :p

SeikoAlpinist ,

Just the successor to pine. It works with IMAP and SMTP.

I’ve tried elm and mutt many years ago back in the 90s and pine was the easiest. So I guess I just stayed there and it works over my ssh connections too. To be honest, the number of personal emails that I’ve written over the past several years can be counted in the dozens so it’s not that important to change any more.

Reddfugee42 , in Are there any modern wifi cards that work with Linux and have 100% FOSS drivers (no proprietary binary blobs)?

You could always get an Ethernet-connected AP. This will allow you to use the latest WiFi but not compromise your OS.

coffeejoe ,

What os is the ap running?

Reddfugee42 ,

That’s the beautiful thing - it doesn’t matter.

refalo ,

some people would prefer to only use FOSS software and hardware, though

Auli ,

Good luck with that. What switch are you going to run? What access point what gateway for your ISP.

refalo ,

pretty much any open source hardware can do all of those things… not sure what you’re trying to say

Reddfugee42 ,

Yeah but to the degree that they need the firmware running on each chip in the device to be a FOSS chip firmware?

possiblylinux127 ,

If you are going that route just use vfio

Kusimulkku , in What email client are you guys using?

Thunderbird. It’s familiar to me and I like the calendar too.

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