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0x0 , in I'm Not a Programmer, but Here’s Why Linux Is My Daily Driver

Linux, on the other hand, can easily boot up on a 10-year-old laptop with just 2GB of RAM, and work fine.

I’m not sure a modern day browser would be just fine with “only” 2GiB, unfortunately.

Bogasse ,
@Bogasse@lemmy.ml avatar

Maybe with zRAM and a bit of swap it could run quite ok 🤷

Cornelius ,

As long as the drive the swap is on is an SSD, yeah absolutely

WhiteHotaru ,

4GB works. My kids use a T410 from 2010 with a SSD and it is a pleasant experience for daily use (browsing, YouTube, small Linux games)

Orfeluh ,
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I have 3GB of RAM on my PC running Linux Mint, using LibreWolf, it works pretty great for me, I mean I can’t open 100 tabs, but 10-15 is possible

kenkenken ,
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I’ve tried to use Fedora Workstation in VM (GNOME Boxes) with only 1GiB RAM. And it is even usable and UI is responsible for GNOME and Firefox, but applications start more slowly. All those at cost of higher CPU usage. Probably it performs well because Fedora uses swap on ZRam, and it makes the system more reliable.

lemmyvore ,

I’ve tried Firefox limited to 1 GB for a laugh. It’s usable. It won’t do many tabs at the same time but it’s usable.

You can actually go lower than that but you’ll start to run into limitations with YouTube videos etc.

There are also other browsers out there that are more light-weight but perhaps not as feature-full as Firefox. Giving up extensions alone reduces a lot of complexity. If you fire up the package installer on any Linux distro and search for “browser” you’ll find a ton. There aren’t many engines but there are a lot of browsers.

meekah ,
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Interesting. How do you limit RAM for an application?

lemmyvore ,

With cgroups, it’s a standard kernel feature. You can limit RAM, CPU, network access, lots of things. It’s used in Docker, LXC, Kubernetes and lots of container solutions.

meekah ,
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Cool, thank you!

meekah ,
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Im using a 4gb laptop with Xfce, and its definitely struggling sometimes. Even though it’s usable, I doubt 2gb would be enough

lemann ,

I used to have only 4GB in my old Linux HTPC, didn’t take much for it to choke when using the browser. Upgraded to 16GB and no issues since

airikr ,

There’s Linux dists that can only requires less than 200 MB of RAM. Absolute Linux for an example, has a minimum system requirement of 64 MB RAM. Plenty of space left for memory hungry softwares like a browser.

pbjamm ,
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Lynx 4 Life!

ArcaneSlime ,

That’s what palemoon is for. It wouldn’t be my first choice, but if you don’t have the RAM to run crysis librewolf on high it’ll work.

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Strit , in I'm trying to lspci > /sdc1 lspci.txt on recovery mode. What am I doing wrong? + help installing broadcom BCM4360 802.11ac network controller on debian
@Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show avatar

ETA: how do I install rpm fusion repos on debian? I only found instructions for fedora and rhel rpmfusion.org/Configuration

You don’t. rpmfusion is a repo for rpm based distributions. Debian is not rpm based, but deb based. There might be PPA’s for Debian instead.

possiblylinux127 ,

PPAs are Ubuntu only. You don’t want to go adding extra repos to Debian as that’s a great way to create a frankendebian.

You want the non-free and non-free-firmware

mogoh , in I'm trying to lspci > /sdc1 lspci.txt on recovery mode. What am I doing wrong? + help installing broadcom BCM4360 802.11ac network controller on debian

Did you type: lspci > /sdc1 lspci.txt exactly like this? because that would pipe the output into /sdc1. You probably want to pipe it into /your/mount/point/lspci.txt (something like that).

archy ,

At least they didn’t pipe it into /dev/sdc1 that’d be a catastrophe

Lojcs ,

What would it do?

Edit:piping it no less

aspitzer ,

make the drive unmountable if it had a filesystem on it.

Lojcs ,

Wouldn’t a reboot fix it

aspitzer ,

if you did lspci >/dev/sdc1, you would write the output of the command to the beginning of the filesystem on that partition, thus corrupting it.

merompetehla OP ,

I see. Thanks

bishoponarope , in I'm trying to lspci > /sdc1 lspci.txt on recovery mode. What am I doing wrong? + help installing broadcom BCM4360 802.11ac network controller on debian

You’re going to have a few issues with the above, whilst it is possible to install an rpm package to Debian, like so: linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-rpm-package-on-ubu…

It’s a bit of a niche use case and may cause other issues, I’ve never done it.

The other issue is that the broadcom drivers for that wireless card are closed source, which is antithetical to debians mission to provide an entirely open system.

There are open source reverse engineered drivers (b43) and open official drivers, (brcmsmac/brcmfmac) for some older broadcom chips but only supporting up to wireless N functionality, if I remember correctly.

After a brief scout about I have located the following: unix.stackexchange.com/…/how-to-install-broadcom-…

it appears the closed source driver package, wl, is able to provide support for one of two chipsets on the 4360 wireless card, but there is no support for the other.

If you have a phone that can provide usb tethering, you are most likely able to provide internet to your laptop that way and continue from there to install the broadcom wl driver, if it supports your chipset. The above stack exchange link and this arch wiki link should help with that. wiki.archlinux.org/title/Broadcom_wireless

fuzzy_feeling , in I'm trying to lspci > /sdc1 lspci.txt on recovery mode. What am I doing wrong? + help installing broadcom BCM4360 802.11ac network controller on debian

have you tried the non-free iso?

possiblylinux127 ,

The main ISO ships with proprietary firmware

kenkenken , in “Systemd is the future”
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systemd now is focused around image-based systems. There is a huge gap between this design and traditional distros. I hate how the linux community has nothing in between of these two polar opposite approaches.

MonkderDritte , in “Systemd is the future”

Yeah, “Systemd won”, “it’s decided”, stuff like this on discourse. Sorry, but that’s not how Open Source works.

darkphotonstudio , in I'm Not a Programmer, but Here’s Why Linux Is My Daily Driver

I’m not a programmer and I’ve been dual booting for 25 years.

tombruzzo , in I'm Not a Programmer, but Here’s Why Linux Is My Daily Driver

I feel like Linux would be easier to pick up and use for a non power user starting from scratch like my mother-in-law. It’s so much easier to download programs with the package manager and settings are so much easier to navigate

lord_ryvan ,

And to use the computer without being bombarded by ads

Helped my SO fix Sims 4 on her W11 laptop recently; lock screen ads, start menu ads, pre-installed bloatware begging for money

I even asked how she deals with all of that and she basically said “I dunno it just does that, if you can make it stop that’d be nice ig but just get Sims to worl for now”

Needless to say I got Sims 4 to work (removing cachedir did the trick) AND uninstalled the bloatware and turned off ad-related settings

ikidd ,
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It’ll come back.

Default_Defect ,
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They’ve never come back for me.

EuroNutellaMan ,
@EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world avatar

I’d honestly have proposed (if they don’t need programs that only run on windows) “we could put linux on it and that should fix these issues” and put Linux Mint or Fedora on it (better if you choose not them unless they really want to deal with all the choices, most likely they won’t wnt to tho) and just tell them the basics of how to install software and stuff.

lord_ryvan ,

I have jokingly mentioned I’d fix it by just installing Linux

I wonder when that stops being a joke

EuroNutellaMan ,
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I’d say now’s the time, by now I mean as soon as it’s appropriate.

I was once asked if I could crack a password of a windows PC in an office cause the guy who used to work there no longer remembers it and they wanted to reuse the old PC. I asked if they need to recover any data, if they used any software that would be incompatible with Linux (not like this but directly mentioning software and asked for a list of stuff they use) and then told them it would simply be easier to install Linux on the thing, not only it’s easier but since it’s an old machine running windows 7 it’s also more secure and the computer will perform well.

During the installation we found out that the computer is glorified junk, took ages to even attempt to format the disk to ext4. Still got to install Linux Mint on another one of their computers tho, big success.

gerdesj ,

I find it amazing that so many distros with volunteers manage to curate a vast software ecosystem, reasonably successfully and yet some of the largest companies on the planet, worth more than $1T each cannot manage to find the resources to do it efficiently.

Imagine firing up a cmd or ps prompt in Windows and tying in: msiexec install adobe-hipster-app and it just works.

k4j8 ,

Have you tried Chocolatey? chocolatey.org. It’s a package manager for Windows and works great, much like brew for Mac. Or, if you prefer portable installation of programs without requiring admin, try Scoop (scoop.sh). Of course, I’d rather use paru or yay on Arch, but I’m glad these options exist.

I find it hilarious that Microsoft even suggests these tools on their own GitHub page for the Windows Terminal.

JackbyDev ,

If I knew how to “sudo” on Windows then requiring admin wouldn’t be so bad.

ellen , in I'm trying to lspci > /sdc1 lspci.txt on recovery mode. What am I doing wrong? + help installing broadcom BCM4360 802.11ac network controller on debian

As the unfortunate owner of a same-gen MBP with the same wireless card, you’re looking at using the proprietary driver (I at least never had any luck with the open-source ones). Luckily, Debian do support those, and even have wiki page for them: wiki.debian.org/wl

Does require some extra configuration though. If you happen to have a Android phone, you should be able to use that for USB-tethering to have internet access on the device you’re installing on, will make the process a lot easier (you don’t even need a SIM in it, you can tether your wifi, that’s what I ended up doing 😅).

GravitySpoiled , in VR support for GNOME Wayland is here!

I’m not too sure I should celebrate such thing while you can’t even get the weather for your location in GNOME unless you live in the capital

joojmachine OP ,
  1. You should, this is a huge achievement that has been worked on for quite a while now.
  2. You can, actually. I live in a pretty small town and it picks up my location quite well for the weather.
  3. Even if it didn’t, one issue doesn’t mean we’re not allowed to celebrate anything, and the issue in this case isn’t even with GNOME itself, but with the provider for the Weather app (I believe it’s OpenWeather).
DannyBoy ,

But who uses that? I recall using a gnome plugin a few years ago that required an Open weather API key that you could use any location for.

KrapKake ,

True, kind of silly you have to install an extension because the default gnome weather won’t just let you use open weather.

Mereo ,

Nonsense. This is huge, as I suspect many people, like myself, switched to KDE because it was the DE that was perfect for gaming in Wayland.

So this is huge for the community! Gaming is now possible in two of the most popular and used DEs.

As for the weather application. Don’t blame GNOME, blame the weather provider (OpenWeather).

turbowafflz ,

The weather isn’t openweather’s fault. It’s a limitation in libgweather (a gnome project). They have to manually approve locations for them to work.

KrapKake ,

It doesn’t use open weather unfortunately. It uses the Norwegian Meteorology Institute and their weather prediction is poor/entirely inaccurate for much of the world. I do wish open weather was an option especially since it’s easy to get your own weather api key.

turbowafflz ,

It’s a dumb workaround but this script lets you add custom locations gitlab.com/…/add-location-to-gnome-weather.sh

GravitySpoiled ,

Thx but that doesn’t make it more consumer ready. If someone looks the first time into gnome and he can’t add his location he might think GNOME is bad because it can’t even handle weather.

It’s easier to create an alias to curl wttr.in/Berlin and access weather data from terminal than using the workaround

Brickardo ,

Wrong place, wrong time

possiblylinux127 ,

That’s not even true. Also how does this have to do with VR?

Regalia , (edited ) in Nvidia Looks Towards Linux Kernel Upstream
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What? I thought Nvidia didn’t want to mainline the open driver??

Edit: Grrrr, clickbait. This is not about their open driver but as far as I understood about exposing a more minimal driver for vGPU usage, in light of development of Nova, a Rust based nouveau successor.

eshep , in I'm Not a Programmer, but Here’s Why Linux Is My Daily Driver

@petsoi Beautifully written perspective; the KDE Activities bit of that was my favorite! Multiple workspaces on a single monitor is probably one of my most advocated features. I'm telling someone about it at least once a week, even if it's just showin em how to use the cut-down one on their windows machine.

Joltey , in VR support for GNOME Wayland is here!

This is actually pretty huge, props to the GNOME developers for this.

Hopefully VR support will improve on linux, literally the only reason I keep a windows drive around is for vr and nothing more.

Mereo ,

Yup, this is huge. Wayland gaming is now a possibility. With Explicit Sync (needed for NVIDIA users) and VRR, there’s now no excuse to keep gaming in X11 in both DEs.

umbrella ,
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it has been possible for quite some time now

Mereo ,

In KDE, I agree. I have an AMD video card and I’ve been gaming in KDE Wayland for quite a while now.

TheGrandNagus , (edited )

In Gnome too. I’ve been doing it.

Yes, no VRR (by default anyway) was a mild inconvenience, but it doesn’t exactly make games unplayable. It’s not like everybody hated gaming before gsync/freesync became widespread.

Mereo ,

For me, VRR is crucial as I play a lot of FPS games or else, I don’t feel that the mouse is the extension of my hand. That’s why I switched from Gnome to KDE.

Fisch ,
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I just play VR on Linux, don’t really have many problems with it. Only small ones like sometimes SteamVR doesn’t recognize my headset the first time I start it so I need to restart it once.

Joltey ,

Yeah I have an Oculus Rift S and the hardware support is pretty bad and I haven’t really gotten it to work. Obviously a vendor issue, and i don’t see meta open sourcing or releasing any drivers for linux anytime soon.

Fisch ,
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Yeah, I have a Valve Index, which is officialy supported on Linux, so I don’t have any issues in that regard. I think the only headsets that work well on Linux are the two with official support (HTC Vive and Valve Index) and the Quest headsets because of ALVR.

porl ,

Considering they specifically removed Linux support of the earlier headsets, I doubt it too.

yonder ,

Have a look at lvra.gitlab.io. It should be possible to get the rift s mostly working.

Link ,

Which VR headset do you have?

Fisch ,
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Valve Index

iturnedintoanewt ,
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Does the index support any wireless contraption?

Fisch ,
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I think there is an unofficial wireless addon but it’s very expensive. I don’t mind the cable anyway tho.

chicken ,

This often happens to me on Windows with the Index so it might not even be a Linux specific issue

ReakDuck ,

The games have stuttering and soft laggs. Blade and Sorcery is the worst in terms of frame rate and lag.

(Details: i5-8600k, AMD FX 6750xt, Plasma 6 Wayland, Arch Linux, Valve Index)

Fisch ,
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For some reason, on Linux, the GPU performance mode isn’t set to high automatically. You can use CoreCTRL to manually set it to high. That eliminated those issues for me.

possiblylinux127 ,

Maybe you have a CPU bottleneck?

ReakDuck ,

Yeah, thats why its so smooth on Windows?!

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