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ssm , (edited )
@ssm@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I dislike the paradigm that there are “techy people/programmers” and “tech illiterates/non programmers”. Anyone can develop the skills to properly use unix interfaces given proper training; and I know that’s true because the whole world used to run (mostly) unix on the desktop before corporate took over. Unix doesn’t need to be windowsified/macosified to get people to move over; people need to unlearn the interfaces corporate has brainwashed them with for generations. There are so many more interesting user interfaces than just what Windows and MacOS provide; graphical or otherwise.

mrvictory1 ,

I don’t know any programming languages but can navigate around Linux, both TUI and GUI.

eveninghere ,

Why are so many Linux posts about “Why Linux” these days? We already use Linux. Isn’t there news on Linux anymore or what?

Sam_Bass ,

“Workflow”. There it is.

thefrankring , (edited )
@thefrankring@lemmy.world avatar

Linux used to be for nerds, programmers and tech people.

Now, it’s probably easier to use Linux than Windows.

thebardingreen ,
@thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz avatar

I have my Boomer dad using Linux Mint on his laptop, but he was still using Windows on his desktop PC.

Then it updated to Windows 11 and he HATES it and asked me for help to put Linux Mint on his desktop as well.

This is a real estate agent in his 70s who needs help making scans and downloading email attachments.

thefrankring ,
@thefrankring@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I think Windows is becoming overly designed and optimized.

Leading to unnecessary complexities.

Muffi ,

And 99% of computer use for most people is in a browser. No need for an overly complex OS, with constant stupid pop-ups to ruin that browser experience.

Muffi ,

Defintiely! I recently bought a used Thinkpad and slapped Pop!_OS on it for my father-in-law. He’s 73 and he’s loving it! He proudly tells his friends that he is now “a part of a computer revolution”.

thefrankring ,
@thefrankring@lemmy.world avatar

lmao, I wouldn’t call it a revolution. Simply different options, alternatives and/or values.

Petter1 ,

I started using Linux prior starting programming…

But knowing some programming languages will not help much maintaining a linux distribution, tho

Doods ,

The problem solving though?

Petter1 ,

Hmm, maybe, but I would say understanding normal behaviour of bash commands and what drivers are does not directly involve knowing about coding.

Asudox ,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

Why is it that people think Linux distros are for programmers or tech people only? This is the reason why we don’t get many people on Linux distros.

Petter1 ,

Because they live with old news and don’t update tech news knowledge as often as tech savy people do.

JackbyDev ,

Because installing a different operating system than the one that came pre installed is a non zero amount of effort.

DNAmaster10 ,

I think this here is probably one of the larger reasons. A large portion of users barely know the difference between a browser and a search engine, let alone the operating system they are using, and nor do they care. People just use whatever their computer comes with out of the box. Most people probably couldn’t tell you the difference between Windows 11 and a Linux distro customized to look exactly the same.

BaldManGoomba ,

Terminal inputs seems like coding. Back in the day you can mess with everything by coding. Having to spend time on forums and searching Google to fix problems that are Terminal inputs only is not something people want to do and what people are passionate about a thing or it is their hobby do.

Most people use what is in front of them, works, and what they are use too. I don’t have time to fix the wifi issue on my 10 year old linux laptop I just plugged it in. Other option is to reinstall windows every 6 months

Krzd ,
@Krzd@lemmy.world avatar

I personally use windows (I play a lot of different games with friends, and setting all of them up in Linux is a lot of work) and I hate it.

However my mum only uses her laptop for browsing and zoom calls, so I installed Linux mint on that and it’s been going great, there are soooo much less issues than with modern windows.

GameMuse ,

Really? I have migrated to Fedora Linux and have had 0 issues playing games. Literally just installed steam then heroic launcher for my games on GOG and Epic. I did have a little issue get ea games to load but that was as my as blocker blocked ea games from fetching the librsry. Which in fair EA faorness EA sucks and should be vlocked.

Krzd ,
@Krzd@lemmy.world avatar

Had some issues with EAC and getting games to run OOTB which was an issue with spontaneously playing weird and obscure games. If I or we would plan our sessions properly it wouldn’t have been a problem though

Fully agree on the EA thing, as well as ubishit constantly being buggy and a pain to work with though.

octopus_ink ,

2007 was YOTLD for me. Yours, dear Windows-using reader, is 2024, if you want it to be.

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mfat ,

I’m a video producer and writer, I only use linux.

JackbyDev ,

Ooh, does Linux have good open source video editing? I remember back in the day that was tricky. (Or I am misremembering.)

cityboundforest ,
@cityboundforest@beehaw.org avatar

I do video editing myself in Linux and Kdenlive does pretty much everything I need. The UI is a bit odd to learn but I’d imagine any new editing software is gonna have a learning curve of some sort.

GreatDong3000 ,

Not open source but DaVinci Resolve is the best editor around and supports Linux.

mfat ,

It does :) personally I use Shotcut for work. It’s super stable and has enough features for my purpose. KDEnlive is also very popular and feature-rich. And you can use DaVinci resolve too.

spittingimage ,
@spittingimage@lemmy.world avatar

I’m also not a programmer but here’s why Linux is my daily driver:

I like it.

crusty ,

Gnome is so much more cozy than windows

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Windows 10 AME also feels very cozy, like Win 7, but its days are numbered unless I stop using internet on it.

Even Windows users are shitting on 11 and questioning using Windows.

JackbyDev ,

Gods, I miss Windows 7 UI. I really dislike the push for everything to be flat nowadays. Aero, my beloved!

floofloof ,

KDE Plasma is so much more snappy and functional than Windows. Linux has lots of good options.

swag_money ,

cinnamon is so uhh default in Linux Mint and i like it

mrvictory1 ,

I love the diversity in this thread

growingentropy ,

I have no formal tech background, but I’m pretty damn good with it. And I like Arch and Debian with XFCE.

FlickeringScreens ,

The most “programming” I can do is make a basic scratch project and print(“Hello World!”) in python, but linux is great

Entropywins ,

How do you do that in python…

tuhriel ,

<span style="color:#62a35c;">print</span><span style="color:#323232;">(</span><span style="color:#183691;">"Hello World"</span><span style="color:#323232;">)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span>

Save the file as script.py

And then execute it with

python3 script.py

EuroNutellaMan ,
@EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world avatar

Impressive, you look like a very skilled programmer, management has told me you are now tasked with building a hyper-realistic virtual simulation of a Large Hadron Collider including detailed simulations of the lives of the actual workers and their families, you have a week or you’re fired by the firing squad, no you’re not allowed to ask why we need it or who we are or why we chose you and it is especially forbidden to ask for more time (and no you can’t ask why that is either). See you in a week, have a nice day :).

JackbyDev ,

I am ready to integrate with Open AI’s API develop an LLM.

JasonDJ , (edited )

This is bad practice.

More accurately it should look something like this:


<span style="color:#323232;"># Load sys library for exiting with status code
</span><span style="color:#323232;">import sys
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">def sayHelloWorld(outPhrase: str="Hello World"):
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    # Main function, print a phrase and return NoneType
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    print(outPhrase)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    return None
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">if __name__=="__main__":
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    # Provide output and exit cleanly when run from shell
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    sayHelloWorld()
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    sys.exit(0)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">else:
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    # Exit with rc!=0 when not run from shell
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    sys.exit(1)
</span>
calcopiritus ,

Fellow pythonistas, how can I make this code more pythonic?

ColdWater ,
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

I don’t even know how to write “hello world” in python but I use vanilla Arch XD

Epzillon ,

This goes hard

CrabAndBroom ,

Same here, I work in the arts and can’t code a thing, but I use Arch (btw) as my daily driver.

gerdesj ,

If I recall correctly Arch has … ssh into wifey’s laptop … python installed out of the box.

Run up a console and type python, and hit enter. Type in print (“Hello World”) and hit enter. There you go!

If you lack a python: $ yay -S python.

Custodian1623 ,

Vanilla arch would be pacman -S python 🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸

KrankyKong ,

You can get yay on arch too

Petter1 ,

And I recommend that very much!

zeroAhead ,

It was my first Linux distro after using Microsoft stuff for ages and let me tell you: it was a big mistake. It was absolutely confusing, had to use terminal for so many things with even msdos commands that I forgot that existed, broke it 3 times by just trying to automount the other drivers and a host of other things.

End up switching to Linux mint and the transition went much smoother after that. I’m going back to it eventually though. I actually like it a lot.

Petter1 ,

EndeavourIS is the Arch for people like you 😉 (and me)

RabbitMix ,

I can’t program, but I only use Linux on both my laptop and desktop. All I really do on my computers is browse the web, light photo/video editing, print the occasional document, organize my photos, and play A LOT of video games. I was dual booting windows for a bit there for the games that won’t work on Linux, but I soon discovered that those games weren’t really worth dealing with the annoyances I had with windows for how often I actually wanted to play them… except CoD, but I have an Xbox so I just play that there. Deleting my windows partition was a great choice.

vulgarcynic ,
@vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works avatar

I am so, so close to doing the same. Still have a small partition carved out for CoD and Windows. I just find myself booting in to it less and less.

Thank goodness MicroVision seems to be keen on continuing to flog that dead horse with a Warzone focus, means I can finally be free.

RabbitMix ,

yeah, if it weren’t for my fiancée playing idk if I’d still be playing CoD at all.

EuroNutellaMan ,
@EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world avatar

get them addicted to BattleBits Remastered, runs smoothly on Linux and is fun as shit.

sfxrlz ,

Only thing keeping my windows partition alive is the pain it seems to be to set up sim racing gear and games and servers on Linux.

RabbitMix ,

I’d be in the same situation if I wasn’t too broke for any of that

steeznson ,

Stephen Fry the comedian/tv presenter is also a huge linux advocate. Specifically Ubuntu. He’s been using it for decades at this point.

gramgan ,

As if I needed more reasons to love Stephen Fry!

CrabAndBroom ,
markstos ,

My wife has used Linux for over a decade. She primarily uses a web browser, office suite and a money management app.

Those have all been well-covered by Linux for years.

HubertManne ,

what does she use for money management?

markstos ,

Moneydance. That was a choice made years ago. It works fine, but we haven’t reviewed the options in years. On the plus side, Moneydance is cross-platform, syncs to a remote server, has mobile apps and is reasonably priced.

HubertManne ,

thanks. I have never used one but have been contemplating doing so.

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