My experience is that nix package configs are tested on NixOS. I used it on other OSes, and I easily encountered misconfigurations and such. The problem is that they are understaffed.
I ended up combining a few package managers due to this, but I’d have preferred to use another manager solely.
Unfortunate. However, one bad move doesn’t justify dismissing systemd altogether.
Do I wish for s6 and dinit to be competitive with systemd?Absolutely.Do I wish for systemd what PipeWire has been for PulseAudio?Yes, please.Do I wish that distros/DEs would be less reliant on systemd?Hell yeah! (Can I please have an rpm-based distro without systemd?)
But, unfortunately, at least for now, systemd is the most robust and (somehow) most polished init we got. And I’m actually grateful for that.
This whole saga reminds me of the time I somehow ended up with Windows 9x's "Recent Documents" feature pointed at the root of a drive, so when I pushed the button to "clear recent documents" it dutifully started deleting all the files on the drive.
At the time, the "Recent Documents" feature created shortcuts to, as you might guess, recently opened documents and put them in a user folder specifically for that purpose. Clearing them was only supposed to remove the shortcuts.
Even the official Steam launcher script from Valve had an rm -rf command with a variable that resolved into empty. This deleted everything in the users home directory. Valve corrected the script afterwards. Here is a random blog post about this subject I just found: hackaday.com/…/how-a-steam-bug-once-deleted-all-o…
There was an updater for iTunes or something for MacOS X that would wipe out your home directory if your hard disk had a space in its name. The default name for the Mac hard disk from the factory is “Macintosh HD”.
The guy replying is a total dick, and for people that like to encourage change to create software that evolves with needs, they sure do refuse to change when needs evolve.
This is definitely just a dangerous cause of that one xkcd. At the very least, Debian unstable caught something before it could reach everyone else. That works, I guess.
I think we should fail --purge if no config file is specified on the command line. I see no world where an invocation without one would make sense, and it would have caught the problem here.
—poettering
As a random example, here is bluca breaking suspend-then-hibernate, then being a complete asshole about it, while other systemd devs are trying to put the fire out. Do read his code reviews on the latter. yuwata and keszybz have nerves of steel.
The current behaviour is fully expected and documented
Funny to seem him arguing against HibernateDelaySec because of possible data loss, yet if systemd-tmpfiles purges your fucking home directory it’s “documented behaviour”. The superiority complex of some people…
The fuck are you doing that it takes an hour to do with systemd? My experience has been the total opposite: drop a file or two somewhere, probably a symlink and done. Even encrypted ZFS root in initramfs was surprisingly easy to set up.
This thread is just a excuse for old time systemd haters to start complain about how it Linux isn’t the same as it was 20 years ago.
This honestly has nothing to do with systemd and it could of been any software that did this. It is an issue of bad communication and people pulling from the very recent stuff. Also it is also a reminder to have proper backups especially when using upstream software.
Just came back to linux myself, installed and configured nixos on a brand new low power n95 processor with quick sync ect.
Walk in the park for declarative config with very easy rollback. Its done 24hrs later, its working well, i dont have anything else to tweak and I am new to nixos as well as having been away from linux for a long time…
I actually just tried installing it yesterday on Debian, I was able to build everything successfully, but I couldn’t figure out how to actually apply the theme. Unfortunately, the developer hasn’t written a guide for it yet. Would you be able to help me?
It’s a bit weird; it’s not a theme, but an application. You have to run the programs it builds and add them to your startup (i.e. the WinXP taskbar, etc)
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