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Draegur ,

Beef tea was when people would boil jerky to rehydrate it. I actually do that at work sometimes! Most nights I enjoy bouillon broth on its own, but occasionally I’ll spruce it up with a little jerky, and it actually thicken up and get more tender! It also GREATLY enhances the flavor of the broth. When the dry night air of the office is bothering my throat, nothing satisfies quite like warm broth.

(I get hot water by not putting any coffee grounds in the coffee machine. I also use this to prepare tea on occasion, and also ramen cups every once in a blue moon)

TheOakTree ,

+1 for coffee machine cup ramen, a very useful technique that I implement often.

Censored ,

I’m sorry, but BOILING? You do not BOIL tea leaves unless you are an absolute heathen. You may pour just-off-the-stove, formerly boiling water over black tea leaves, making the tea about 210 degrees Fahrenheit. But you do NOT put allow water with tea leaves in it to BOIL unless you are seriously deranged.

Routhinator ,
@Routhinator@startrek.website avatar

Yeah this. Biggest mistake most people that hate tea make is they dont bother learning that tea has specific temps for brewing depending on the leaves and that pouring boiling water off the stove on it will make most teas bitter.

Many teas are best at 85-90C, just off the boil.

veganpizza69 ,
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Track_Shovel OP ,

This is the way

surewhynotlem ,

This is cool. Why would I want this?

MagicPterodactyl ,

For liquid fertilizer, but seems silly when you can get the same results but just throwing the compost in the water and stirring it around, letting the solids sink to the bottom.

31337 ,

I’ve never used it, but the idea is that nutrient uptake will be faster than if someone just dressed the top of the soil with compost. The extra aerobic bacteria could also be beneficial.

rsuri ,

I guess I’m an ingredient purist, preparation rebel. If your house is surrounded by tea plants, and the tea leaves fall in the gutter, how is that different from brewing tea the normal way?

menemen ,
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

Does your gutter contain 90°C hot water?

0x0 ,

Hey, that’s basically tea’s origin story.

In Chinese legend, Emperor Shennong was drinking a bowl of just boiled water because of a decree that his subjects must boil water before drinking it.[12] Some time around 2737 BC, a few leaves were blown from a nearby tree into his water, changing the color and taste. The emperor took a sip of the brew and was pleasantly surprised by its flavor and restorative properties.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_tea

pyre , (edited )

mighty brave for an emperor to see that their water has changed color, and decide to try it anyway.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

Yeah. Likely an emperor’s chief taster/minion discovered Tea and credit was stolen.

Censored ,

Water isn’t the ideal temperature. Everyone knows black tea must be made with water that’s 212-210 degreases Fahrenheit

Agrivar ,

JFC, for someone so bent about the proper way to prepare tea, one would think you’d be able to spell “degrees”

Censored ,

LOL I know how to spell degrees. I probably hit the wrong key and spellcheck autocorrected it to something random. Welcome to 2024.

Schadrach ,

I mean, he’s not going to have black tea anyways as it won’t have been prepared correctly.

psilotop ,

It’s only tea if it’s made from the tea region of the plant. Anything else is sparkling suspension

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

except… with “pure” tea you don’t consume the original ingredient. (eating tea leaves or coffee grounds? eeww.)

pho, etc you do. ergo, not tea.

tiredofsametab ,

Pho is just animal oil/juice suspended. Everything else is like milk, honey, lemon, sugar, etc. that people do consume in tea.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

what about the rice noodles, chicken, mushrooms, etc etc.? come on.

Kedly ,

So if a deranged person drinks the broth without eating the ingredients, did they then turn their pho into tea?

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

Pho is just a loose-leaf tea.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

that’s only true if you eat tea leaves.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

they didn’t have pho to start with. they just drank one of the ingredients of pho.

Kedly ,

Wait, so then we have the comparison all wrong. Pho isn’t Vietnamese Tea, Tea is British Pho?

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

no.

Kedly ,

Pretty sure its pronounced “Nuh”

Censored ,

No, because you don’t really make tea by boiling tea leaves. Tea is an infusion made from pouring hot water over tea leaves. Not boiling tea leaves.

tiredofsametab ,

As the other person mentioned, the base of pho is the stock which includes steeped plants. So it's tea with some other things thrown in it.

ArmokGoB ,

What about stock? Take some bones, spices, and vegetables; boil them in water; and strain out all the solids. You’re left with nothing but a flavored liquid.

Venator ,

Now you’ve got a stew going!

ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

sure, stock is tea. the base of pho is tea, but pho isn’t pho until you at least put some noodles in it. Until then, it’s just ingredients for pho.

Pacattack57 ,

In that instance a clogged gutter is still tea

Venator ,

Might be cleaner than some people’s tea pots… 😅

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

Only the juice collected from the underside of the clogged gutter is the tea.

milicent_bystandr ,

I agree with top left and bottom right. Everything else is sacrilege.

johannesvanderwhales ,

Really feels like one should be “tea is made from tea”

don ,

Asking anyway. Hey Fiora, is a hotdog in a hotdog bun considered a sandwich?

Track_Shovel OP ,

It’s a taco. Next question

Natanael ,

Rivers are hot dogs by the way

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

So, is a martini with the olive on top, a preparation rebel/igredient neutral or ingredient purist?

BmeBenji ,

This and the cube rule are the best way to make an argument for categorizing edible items

pseudo ,
@pseudo@jlai.lu avatar

She is speaking the truth.

Kusimulkku ,

Double purist, the only way to be

ZMoney ,

Saturn is a mixture of gases. It has a solid rocky/hydrogen core surrounded by a layer of liquid hydrogen/helium. You could argue that this intermediate liquid layer might have solid particulates, and this would agree with the definition, but overall Saturn is too complicated to be classified this way. A better extreme example would be something like Earth’s oceans.

WayNKG ,

You’re response sounds like what an AI would say when you try to be sarcastic with it.

ZMoney ,

An AI would give a generic definition of Saturn and a generic definition of tea and then say something irrelevant like “scientists disagree about the exact composition of Saturn’s core”

LazerFX ,

Coffee isn’t a tea, as you don’t boil it. If you boil it, you burn the coffee! That’s an extraction - you can steep it, but it’s better if you just push the water through at high pressure (which will royally screw up a tea).

Ah, pedantry in pedantry. So - now for Lemmy to tell me what I’ve gotten wrong :⁠-⁠D

chatokun ,

Boiling green tea is also considered burnt, as green teas recommended steeping temp is 170-175, unless I misunderstood what you mean there.

LazerFX ,

No, that’s fair. Coffee at pressure is about 93 - 95°C… No idea for drip/french press/v60 etc. as I don’t use those For Aeropress, I’d wait until the kettle stopped making noise, that seemed to be a good balance without burning the oils.

EpeeGnome , (edited )

Teas are generally not boiled, but steeped in hot water that was boiling a moment ago. I was going to say that cowboy coffee is boiled, but then I looked it up, and even then, the pot is pulled off the heat before adding the grounds.

srecko ,

I boil my coffee, and a lot of people do. Espresso and derivatives are rather new way of making coffee, the old way is by boiling a coffee.

Kedly ,

I’ve actually had coffee tea, I have Indonesian family and one of the times I visited I was traded a bag of coffee leaves and berries for agreeing to be in some advertising pictures, and its actually pretty good!

angrystego ,

I do boil coffee. One of us might be a coffee preparation purist.

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