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blind3rdeye , in The sad truth for all of us

For a little I while liked watching my karma gradually climb, with a feeling that I was contributing something. But… then I realised that one shit-post on a popular subreddit can routinely ‘earn’ more karma than 1000 high quality posts on smaller subreddits. … And with that realisation, I no longer saw any value in the karma score whatsoever.

I think it’s best that it’s gone. It skewed people to make low-effort posts in high-traffic places rather than high-effort posts in low-traffic place.

cantstopthesignal OP ,

I had 300kish karma and more than half of it was from 5 comments and one post.

Stuka ,

The problem of caring about karma was that after a while it was evident that effort, accuracy, attitude…none of it mattered, atleast for comments. It became mostly really easy to predict how a comment would be received, with a few exceptions from cross post traffic that would shake up the votes in waves as they were posted and down/upvote brigades flooded in.

Rengoku ,

Spamming articles and hope they take off in /r/worldnews is also a thing. I look at ‘new’ tab with disgust. The same pool of redditors!

beefbaby182 , in The sad truth for all of us
@beefbaby182@lemmy.world avatar

Awww, you are not a whore! Whores get paid.

What you are is a karma slut. :P

KairuByte ,
@KairuByte@lemmy.world avatar

If there’s no more karma… are they just a slut?

FoxyZac64 , in The sad truth for all of us
@FoxyZac64@lemmy.world avatar

I’m so glad Karma is gone. Just overall dumb. Like a achievement score on Xbox. It’s not real and doesn’t mean anything.

Vorticity ,

I see your strategy. Double comments to rack up those sweet sweet invisible comment points!

FoxyZac64 ,
@FoxyZac64@lemmy.world avatar

God damn it lol

rockSlayer ,

Are you telling me that the race for the first to 100 million achievement score means nothing??!1?2!?

anewbeginning ,

At least there’s a rewards system for achievement score. I never got anything for all that sweet karma I got with my massive insights and funny quips.

That’s why I stopped being insightfully funny.

antonim ,

I never got anything for all that sweet karma

Oh, but you could.

redaccs.com

TheRedSpade ,

I couldn’t find a link to sell. I wonder if they’re not buying anymore or I’m just blind.

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

It’s not real and doesn’t mean anything.

B-b-b-but! My e-peen! How else are people going to know that I did stuff?

https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/56fbdaab-263c-4409-918b-0afc0fca2a92.jpeg

remotedev ,

This reminds me of the early '00s forums signature banners. Can we bring those back cuz they were sick

jelloeater85 ,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

You can make your profile snazzy tho.

tony_lasagna ,

Agree that I personally found it a waste of time but I do wonder if having it encourages more people to post good/funny content more regularly. That said surely it’s the same thing really just having it per post rather than an overall score

axtualdave ,

How the fuck am I supposed to evaluate my worth as a person without an arbitrary number assigned by internet strangers???

Thewheeeeeeeeeel ,

I wouldnt call it dumb overall. It definitely has good sides.

For example the karma race aka who posts a news first. That leads to communities being very up to date and discussion can happen very quickly.

Also it creates some incentive to post good comments, because its fun to know people value your opinion

But ofc there is also the other side that people post dumb memes and do reposts.

But acting like it has no worth at all is stupid as well imo

manitcor , in The sad truth for all of us
@manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech avatar

we called them post whores

SamXavia ,
@SamXavia@lemmy.world avatar

Guessing they just try and post as much as possible to get there post numbers up lol

manitcor ,
@manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech avatar

in the old forums you would see both totals and metrics based on things like join data. ex. ppd - posts per day

The other thing you would have were signatures and account badges/tags/awards.

SamXavia ,
@SamXavia@lemmy.world avatar

That sounds so cool, why didn’t it get transferred over?

manitcor ,
@manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech avatar

signatures were very dividing, a community usually had them or they didn’t and there were sometimes huge complain threads about them so they kind of just fell out of favor. You can still find places that use them.

badges reddit adopted and put into the profile page similar to steam which was not a bad idea since people with a lot of badges created new UX issues.

then you have status flairs and tags, these I really wish had come back, some subs enabled user flair which in some cases replicated the old forum style through CSS mods. Some of the styles you might have might be that your name glowed or had a small animation among other things. I always really liked these though I suspect at scale they have exploitation issues.

I think some of these features could make a come back on smaller instances. Not sure we should go entirely back to the way it was done in the 00s though.

dub ,

I feel called out. I swear it’s just to engage the community more!!

SamXavia ,
@SamXavia@lemmy.world avatar

Engaging isn’t that bad, I guess it depends on what people are posting as well as what sort of comes from it.

Platomus ,

Haha, yeah man. I totally agree with this.

Platomus ,

Definitely. The more comments the better!

Platomus ,

This guy gets it!

Flygone , in stop asking for a karma system

But isn’t there a karma system? At least I’m seeing points on posts and comments and that’s what karma is/was on Reddit right?

7Sea_Sailor ,

Karma on reddit is the sum of upvotes an account has received on all it’s posts and comments combined. Lemmy only has the voting per individual post and comment, but doesn’t accumulate this as a sidewide score.

Flygone ,

Oh ok I never realised people cared about that I thought it was only about getting rewards and like high scores on your posts.

How have I been using Reddit for 10+ years without knowing this? XD

forgeddit ,

It affected how easily your comments or posts could get upvoted, the more karma you had the more “trust” you had. Bot accounts were bought from people with high karma due to this reason, and sold further for a higher price after farming.

At some point the post/comment karma was changed to a fuzzy number, someone claimed your karma affected how it was calculated. Not sure if true.

Reading about how digg died, one reason was “front-page” bandits/groups. Basically people grouping up and getting paid to land posts on the front page. The more they did it, the more “trust” they had to hit front page again, similarly to high karma accounts on Reddit.

ram ,

Lemmy only has the voting per individual post and comment, but doesn’t accumulate this as a sidewide score.

Lemmy does have a karma system. Here’s yours.

7Sea_Sailor ,

gulp well, I’d rather learn about this now than later. Thanks for pointing it out.

TIN , in Nature is calling!

For some reason, I thought they were all underwater, releasing bubbles up to the slightly choppy surface. Leaving aside physics and, you know, breathing, I was wondering if they were all not pooping because of the embarrassment of watching it float up to the surface.

Anyway, there’s probably a lesson in the about scrolling too fast, or too tired or something.

SSUPII OP ,

Have a nap

Num10ck ,

if yours are all floaters then maybe consider a healthier diet

Etterra , in The sad truth for all of us

I never got the purpose of karma. You can’t spend it, it’s just a pointless number. A few subs used it, fire whatever reason, as a numbers threshold for entry, but getting karma was so trivially easy even without bots that it literally accomplished nothing in that regard.

myusernameisokay ,

Not that I ever cared about karma, but I can see why some people did. It plays into peoples need to be liked. Karma associates a number with how well your post is doing. Bigger number = more people liked your post. Basically quantifying how well liked your post is and then gamifying it.

SixTrickyBiscuits ,

Really that stat would have to be something like total karma divided by your number of posts, or number of views by logged in users on your posts. As a total number it’s meaningless. It’s like someone being a millionaire if humans were immortal. Are they really good at business, or have just been alive a long time?

rolaulten ,

Your brain sees the reward (karma) and gets a hit of dopamine. In theory this creates a spiral of encouraging you to post more contet for more dopamine hits. More content pulls in more users…

SageWaterDragon ,

Back in 2013-ish there was a bot that would convert your karma to crypto back when it was cheap enough to just throw around like that. That was the only time in my life that I was ever paid to post, and it was like $6. I wonder how much it would be if I were to find that wallet now, but that was on an account that no longer exists. Oh, well!

alertsleeper ,

It’s a game. “Numbers go up yay!”

LollyActionGinger , in The sad truth for all of us

We left Reddit to only talk about Reddit. Fuck sake lads, lasses and nb’s

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

What could be more shitty to post about than Reddit?

DrSanta ,

Family Guy.

IndiBrony ,
@IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

Remember when Reddit was good? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Ser_Salty ,

Lois, Reddit is doing worse than that time I was in charge of Warner Brothers

Speculater ,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

short clip of Racist Coyote joining the KKK

tr0nix ,

But that’s the point of having a community. We get to complain together right guys?

Speculater ,
@Speculater@lemmy.world avatar

And op is complaining about complaining, complaieception!

Lombax ,
@Lombax@lemmy.world avatar

Well don’t just point out that OP is complaining about complaining. We need to complain about OP complaining about complaining!

Sorry, I don’t mean to complain about your lack of complaint.

Kinglink , in The sad truth for all of us

I got bad news… Whores have a lot of sex. And get paid for it.

I don’t know what you are.

TeamAssimilation ,
@TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub avatar

OP’s an open source whore, obviously.

DrNyaaa ,
@DrNyaaa@lemmy.world avatar

Does that mean anyone can have sex with him?

efiler ,

but the UI is so ugly :(

Dodgeit ,
@Dodgeit@lemmy.ca avatar

But what a backend

ICastFist ,
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Apply some CSS to make it more pleasing. I hear paperbag-with-holes.css works wonders

creditCrazy ,
@creditCrazy@lemmy.world avatar

Now it’s only a matter of time until some hackers replace it with paperbag-with-gloryholes.css it’s a very well known vulnerability with that files security

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

An intern?

igetzerobread OP , in some might say we're early adopters

500 upvotes? time to take this career here seriously and break up with my wife

kfj55 ,

What’s it like to be so successful?

CookieJarObserver , in some might say we're early adopters
@CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works avatar

Bruh 5 upvotes are a lot.

v4ld1z ,
@v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

And you have 14. Damn.

razza856 , in some might say we're early adopters

i put my total lemmy upvote count on my tinder profile. Updated daily

igetzerobread OP ,

You must be drowning in dms

razza856 ,

the ladies can’t control themselves

themoonisacheese , in some might say we're early adopters
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

Op about to start cocaine after getting almost 2k upvotes

igetzerobread OP ,

Already at it

themoonisacheese ,
@themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works avatar

Poggers

mah ,

You are on flour, right?

Holodeck_Moriarty ,

Without inviting all of us?

rockhandle , in some might say we're early adopters

Mizu (aka the cant shit for 3 days guy) is the only real celebrity on this platform

MissJinx ,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

My first thought was poop guy and you even know his name! Our fist celebrity of many!

Waiting for some of those “broke my arms”, “swamps of dagobah” or “cockroache imaginary girlfriend” stories.

C’mon guys tell us where you cum

StarLuigi ,
@StarLuigi@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The lamp that looks odd…

Thteven ,
@Thteven@lemmy.world avatar

I followed him from kbin lol, I had to know what happened.

iokus ,

Ironic that one so solid should be named after something so fluid.

Grimm ,

I knew my elementary knowledge of Japanese would come in handy some day.

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

and we still don’t know if he had a good time that weekend

Cow_says_moo , in some might say we're early adopters

I’d say the three day no pooping guy is a celebrity. You know what to do, OP.

Barns ,
@Barns@lemmy.world avatar

Him and Ruud, the Lemmy.world owner are the biggest celebrities we have around here

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