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Ilovethebomb ,

Yarr matey, we be sailin the high seas alone this fine evenin.

Agathon ,
@Agathon@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Anon needs Jellyfin.

user224 , (edited )
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I prefer NGINX with autoindex. Lightweight, no JavaScript, looks like every Linux ISO mirror, filenames already have all the required info, can be quickly searched with CTRL+F, fits perfectly to my laziness.

If you want some improvement, you can use FancyIndex module.

But the files need to be in codecs supported by your browser(s). I prefer AV1+Opus in WebM container which have been supported by Firefox for a while. At this point it’s really only Safari not fully supporting AV1 because it relies on hardware decoding and Apple wants you to buy new hardware.

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein , (edited )

Sorry, your favorite media server is just files you play on a browser?

I mean, not shaming, I just had never heard of that being preferable to Plex/Emby/Jellyfin.

currycourier ,

Kinda based tho tbh

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

“If it works, it ain’t stupid” ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

BruceTwarzen ,

It can definitely work and be stupid

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yeah, I am too lazy to set up something like Jellyfin. It only makes sense for me with music, for which I use Navidrome. But again, my setup is mostly directory/filename based, so it’s really being carried with m3u playlists as opposed to proper metadata.

I mean, maybe I’ll use Jellyfin if I’ll do something in a proper way, but currently I don’t see the point of it. And anyway, I can always copy the URLs to VLC, which will even accept DVD ISO files.
e.g.:


<span style="color:#323232;">vlc --no-dvdnav-menu http/dvdnav://192.168.49.1:8080/media/ISOs/Interstellar.iso
</span>

let’s me play entire copy of a DVD, properly with menus and bonus features, just as if I used the DVD directly.

Although I don’t do this anymore because of storage limitations, but I’ll likely return back to it once I’ll have a proper media server and LAN.

thanks_shakey_snake ,

That’s absolutely ridiculous. I’m into it.

ricecake ,

The biggest issue with that is it requires all of your media to be in a flat folder for search to work right.

Auto index has a mode to return results in json. With a touch of html and js you can make a page that will crawl the directory tree and build a simple searchable cache of name to path, and then you can play it from there. It ends up making a request per folder, but in realistic terms it’s not gonna be enough to actually be noticable.

You can then use something like this on a cron to convert anything your browser can’t play and you’re pretty close to a minimalist media server with only static files.
The one I used to use was just a bash script so I didn’t have to wrangle python modules, but I can’t seem to find it.

I ended up dropping it when I bought a nas with all that stuff built in and it generally made my life easier. Worth the money if you can afford it.

tan00k ,

Do you just remember where you are in every show (or movie that you only partway watched)? That’s the biggest appeal of jellyfin/plex to me, so I can go in and continue from where I left off without keeping track.

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I always finish them.

tan00k ,

You always finish an entire TV series?

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Not a series, but then yes, I remember where I ended. Or I can just write it on a note if the series is still being made and it will take some time.

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It’s Usenet babe. Get this… it’s been around since 1980! Isn’t that wild, babe? It just goes to show, if a distribution system isn’t broke, don’t fix it.

kasuaaliucceli ,

Hahah I was gonna come mention Usenet but glad you already did.

A month ago I was frustrated waiting on some torrent and decided to finally give Usenet a try. All I gotta say is - why didn’t I do this switch years ago???

Sat ,

How do you get a provider though?

kasuaaliucceli ,

Yeah there was a lot of googling duckduckgoing at first. In my case I decided to start out with NewsHosting as provider and nzbgeek as indexer. So far so good

Evotech ,

Because they usually cost money

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yearly rates for a provider and 2 indexers still doesn’t come close to the cost of all the streaming subscriptions you’d need to have the same library access. Coupled with the ability to use RSS feeds and other homelab services to essentially automate your collection, it’s just absolutely worth every penny.

But I wouldn’t know firsthand, because I’m a law abiding citizen, and this is all hypothetical. I just read about it on the internet somewhere.

Evotech ,

Comparing to torrents

Pringles ,

With usenet you’re not a distributor.

dwindling7373 ,

You say that as if it was a plus…

Laser ,

I mean you can be if you want

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Usenet via SSL, with a provider that doesn’t log, over torrents any day. The anonymity level, speed, and retention is all worth it.

Honytawk ,

But they still are more expensive than torrents

wesker ,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

So use torrents and get ridiculed by your date.

kasuaaliucceli ,

Oh yeah true, I kinda forgot about that since I’ve been so excited with the results :)

ryannathans ,

Shit goes missing after like a year

kasuaaliucceli ,

IIRC that might have been the reason I previously disregarded the idea of trying Usenet. However if it’s not on Usenet, one can always fall back to torrents :p Haven’t had to do that yet. knocks on wood

threeduck ,
@threeduck@aussie.zone avatar

“Who is it?”

threeganzi , (edited )

What goes missing? You I don’t know how Usenet works.

Edit: edited to say I don’t know instead of you.

ryannathans ,

The files are not stored indefinitely, retention is based on the provider

MrNobody ,

Retention for 90%+ of providers is at least 4500 days for binary files and 110000 days for newsgroups. Have two providers, one monthly and one block, that run on different backbones with one that takes down for dmca and one that doesn’t and you’ll be fine. There are very very very few shows or movies that you can’t get. Don’t have to worry about VPN, ratios, trackers or any of that other crap.

ryannathans ,

That’s cool, retention a lot better now than like 10 or 20 years ago

Honytawk ,

So movies from 2011 and before can not be found?

threeganzi ,

Thanks! And sorry, I meant to say that I don’t know how Usenet works, not you.

Follow-up question. Why is retention so important? Wouldn’t they get reuploaded again? Or is it mainly a problem for more obscure content.

ryannathans ,

Torrents persist until all seeders disappear for good, which is rare on private trackers. On usenet generally content is uploaded ASAP upon release and then only lasts as long as rentention. Maybe you’ll get rereleases on usenet but it didn’t seem to be a common occurance

7U5K3N ,

Yeah my ex wife initially made fun of my server with my Plex media on it…

Guess what she wanted after our divorce? That’s right Plex.

If she scoffs at your media setup she’s wrong for you.

hushable ,

My ex told me she never ever wanted to talk to me ever again, ever!

Next week she texted me asking access my plex server.

setsneedtofeed ,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

She just got filtered. Another successful test by anon.

MindTraveller ,

This test is gonna filter out any girl who’s smart enough to use Plex with her xbox

ArbitraryValue ,
  1. Meet woman, don’t be weird.
  2. Gradually build a loving, trusting relationship.
  3. She has to get surgery and she’ll be bed-bound while she recovers.
  4. “Will you take care of me, Anon?”
  5. Lord of the Rings marathon. The director’s cuts. She can’t run.
massive_bereavement ,

Just do old school style and read her the Silmarillion.

Make sure to get the annotated version.

Alexstarfire ,

The long setup. “Babe, you agreed to stay in sickness and in health. This is my sickness.”

XTL ,

Narrator: But she didn’t stay.

superkret ,

She died during the Battle of Helm’s Deep

thr0w4w4y2 ,

But inside she was already dead

Banichan ,
@Banichan@dormi.zone avatar

Return of the King was the first and only movie I’ve seen that had an intermission. Keep in mind this was only the theatrical version!

DrBob ,
@DrBob@lemmy.ca avatar

Then go see 2001 A Space Odyssey. Wait until the IMAX release comes around.

Banichan ,
@Banichan@dormi.zone avatar

That movie is like taking 500 quaaluds

DrBob ,
@DrBob@lemmy.ca avatar

But what an intermission!

Death_Equity ,

Anon doesn’t know about streaming sites.

One site, no torrents, legally good(so far), and all you need is basic ad-blocks to enjoy a Netflix like experience with a better interface.

She deserved a pirate Chad, and she knew it, he has spaghetti falling out his pockets like a soyjack.

VeganCheesecake ,
@VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Torrents tend to be more reliable quality; around here, they’re both equal in legality/illegality, and you don’t have to think about your Internet connection.

The actual trick is having done it earlier, not trying on the couch right beforehand.

blargerer ,

In many places there is a big legal distinction between consuming and distributing copyrighted content, when torrenting you are doing both.

killingspark ,

You can opt out of seeding it’s just not very nice

SeekPie ,

My favourite has always been Stremio + Real-Debrid

Frog ,

Torrent is more reliable than paid a services like Prime Video. My wife got pissed watching one of her shows on Prime. It kept on buffering and quality was trash. I torrented the entire season, put up a JellyFin server. She was so happy.

Tldr: Prime video is trash.

ZarkleFarkle ,

Similar to a Yellow Canary program based on logic principles

Xanthrax ,
@Xanthrax@lemmy.world avatar

Switch to streaming and use ad blockers. It will be 720/ 1080p max, though. Most people won’t notice. There’s a guide/ wiki on a specific lemmy community.

Also, be honest. Your partner might be tech savvy and not be able to afford entertainment as well. Go for it. That’s how I found my partner.

flying_sheep ,
@flying_sheep@lemmy.ml avatar

Not able to afford?

If there was a reasonably-priced ad-free service you could pay for to get complete shows, many would do it.

But this is a joke: pokemon.com/…/where-to-watch-pokemon-episodes-mov…

SirDerpy ,

If there was a reasonably-priced ad-free service

Then I’d still not buy because typical services won’t fool me a third time. Reasonably priced ad free were called cable TV and Netflix. Then, each put ads in and hiked prices. The enshitification of Netflix is now common example of the commodification of an IT product or service.

We created atypical services for reasonably priced ad free content. It now costs me about $120/yr for whatever typical domestic or foreign programming, without ads. For $60/yr it’s domestic programming and few hours instead of a few minutes to grab a program. I also donate directly for some streaming content I enjoy, such as agadmator chess, then watch with an ad blocker. Both are reasonably priced and ad free.

flying_sheep ,
@flying_sheep@lemmy.ml avatar

Ha, I mean, it’s not like there is a huge buy-in. If there was a good convenient service again, I’d start using it. When it invariably it goes to shit, I’ll stop paying and go back to downloading. Just like I did with Netflix.

If enough people stopped paying because of their bullshit, maybe that would pave the way for a a platform where you actually feel like you own the shit you paid for.

SirDerpy ,

Ha, I mean, it’s not like there is a huge buy-in.

If one does the math for an average single income US household, a modest broadband connection is 15-20% of their disposable income. They survive on metered cellular.

If there was a good convenient service again, I’d start using it.

I’ll stay right where I’m at, paying less for more and giving more to content creators of substance, and with the convenience of a stable system.

burgersc12 ,

Stremio + Torrentio makes this sooo much easier

drmoose ,

Stremio + Torrentio

dude! Thanks, finally I can watch Ed, Edd & Eddy

AZERTY ,

I went from Plex + the arrs to this because I moved and couldn’t be bothered to set it up again.

Vivendi ,

Look, there are enough women in the world for you to stop thirsting after someone who’s just not right for you

If you’re geeky you need a girlfriend that at least vibes with that even if she’s not into it herself for fucks sake

MindTraveller ,

Girl is super geeky, she’s just mad at him for running his laptop on the TV instead of using Plex to watch torrents from his xbox like a normal person.

cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

A normal person would install the client on the TV, Xbox is not needed in this chain.

MindTraveller ,

This requires having a smart TV.

SkyezOpen ,

Finding a dumb TV is challenging.

Honytawk ,

Just buy a smart one but leave the brain disconnected from the internet

BruceTwarzen ,

I used to just glue a cheap android box on the back of my tv. Now i glued an expensive nvidia shield on the back of my tv

MindTraveller ,

Mate, don’t be weird. Torrent the movie you wanna watch before your girl gets there. Put it in your plex library and boot up Plex on your xbox. Easy peasy. You don’t have to be weird about it.

Sabata11792 ,

If she’s not excited to see the download bar move, she’s not getting invited back.

SaharaMaleikuhm ,

Yeah, I’m poor. Deal with it.

Dyskolos ,

Torrent. Phht. Who got the time for that. Sonarr/Radarr/emby(or whichever u prefer) Enter title, wait a minute (unless u r on slow net or prefer 4k remux) and watch. Enter Series-name,go to bed. Enjoy 12 full seasons tomorrow.

Totally hasslefree, no stupid trackers or missing seeder or waiting-time. Movie was posted 10yrs ago? No problem. Still there, still fullspeed. Device not certified for netfucks or rooted? Who cares?

And when your lady asks “why can we watch this, this is not on Netflix” you can reply “what is netflix? I’m a pro”

Geth ,

Doesn’t this solution require downloading the file, reencoding and then it’s available to watch? How do you only need one minute to start watching?

example ,

reencoding is not required in advance, it happens on the fly if needed.

download still needs to be completed first usually, but you can save a lot of time if you compromise in quality.

Dyskolos ,

If i watch stuff from the outside on my phone,i really don’t care for quality. Same when I’m at home watching some quick series. For “serious” stuff it takes a while longer. Need to wait some good more minutes for a bd-remux.

lightnsfw ,

Doesn’t sound to me like they actually understand what they’re talking about. Sonarr and Radarr both use trackers to download files from either torrents or usenet. Emby is a media server that displays the downloaded files (like netflix). You don’t typically have to reencode what you download.

Geth ,

Right but you still wait for however long the file needs to download. Normally quite a bit more than 1 minute. That’s what got me confused about this almost streaming like experience that I’m missing out on.

lightnsfw ,

Yeah that part of their comment was also misleading. Basically they’re saying Radarr/Sonarr are better than torrents but really they’re just a fancy front end. If something downloads fast on them it will go just as fast in whatever torrent client you use.

Dyskolos ,

Nonsense. Torrents depends on seeders. Usenet is always (depending on the provider) max-speed.

*narrs are basically just interfaces for torrents and/or nzbs. And unless I’m into some very specific niche-stuff that requires a private tracker, why should one use torrents? Their only upside is that they’re totally free.

lightnsfw ,

I didn’t say anything about Usenet in the comment you are replying to. The point is Radarr/Sonarr are not Usenet. They are just front ends regardless of which service you are getting content from. Whatever download speed you get on that service is what you get, they have nothing to do with it.

I’ve had plenty of torrents download at high speed, is it less reliable than Usenet? Yes, but It’s also free. I’ll wait a day or two if I have to if it saves me money.

Dyskolos ,

And i didn’t say they’re better than torrents, as they can do both. It’s just the easier overall wrapping than using the regular torrenting-way we did since torrents first came up. It makes me even able to actually use torrents (if i wanted to).

And yes, of course usenet is faster than torrent. Sure you might have a fresh torrent with tons of high-speed-seeders that downloads at fullspeed. But if that one is a year old you’re often outta luck. If it’s 10 years old you’re most likely outta luck. Never the case with usenet. Always, everything from the last 12yrs at absolute maximum speed your line (and the provider) allows.

“Free” is relative. If you’re using public trackers, then yes. Private trackers either require to share a lot (ugh, no thanks and also highly illegal here, hence i would need a vpn) or donate. I pay 5 bucks a month for usenet and 25 or so a year for indexers (plural). That’s one delivered (and shitty) pizza here.

lightnsfw ,

Torrent. Phht. Who got the time for that. Sonarr/Radarr/emby(or whichever u prefer) Enter title, wait a minute (unless u r on slow net or prefer 4k remux) and watch. Enter Series-name,go to bed. Enjoy 12 full seasons tomorrow.

Not sure how else anyone was supposed to interpret that.

Dyskolos ,

I do know. I just didn’t want to list everything, as those who’d do that, know that. And there is no “tracker” for usenet. Usenet is probably older than you 😁

Reencoding (if necessary) is done on the fly by the emvy-server.

lightnsfw ,

There is a provider with Usenet which serves the same purpose (and costs money so there’s a trade off). Radarr and Sonarr are not finding the content for you. It’s coming from whatever service you are using.

Dyskolos ,

Well my internet costs money too. Netflix would be 20 bucks and i have 30% of what muricans have. My usenet is 5 bucks a month, the indexers (2 atm) are like 25 a year. So i would still have money left for a nice tea 😁

And netflix wouldn’t be enough. If i had all providers i want, it’ll be >100 moneyz a month. That’s ridiculous. And probably still missing something

But yes. Take torrents and save even those mere bucks. I just want it comfy and fast. The principle would be the same.

lightnsfw ,

Ok? Why are you bringing Netflix into it? No one suggested that. You can do whatever you want the point of my responses are that Sonarr/Radarr are not as simple as you implied.

Dyskolos ,

Of course they aren’t. As netflix wouldn’t be enough too, you need internet, a device, an OS and an app. Wouldn’t mention those when talking about netflix too. So yes. Of course you’d need a downloader and probably an indexer too. And a firewall, vpn and whatever else you can think of, and a media-server, and an app, and a device and OS. Oh and a browser to input your search into. Probably a keyboard too :-)

But *narrs are those that take your input, query indexers, do the background-work, put results into your downloader(s) of choice and into your media-server of choice. They’re the crucial part here. Like the netflix-app for watching netflix-content. Everything else is your personal flavour.

Dyskolos ,

Sure it needs to download. But i got 10 fibers á 1gbit bundled and a 10gb home network and a good and fast server. So after hitting “search” it’ll take around a minute til it’s leeched, unpacked, sorted and imported into emby. The last part actually take the longest.

But speed isn’t really the point, it’s hit-search-wait-watch. The wait part depends on you.

dwindling7373 ,

I wish? That’s not my experience, anything that’s not superpopular is hard to find. Are you using private trackers?

camr_on ,
@camr_on@lemmy.world avatar

It definitely depends on your trackers and how smart sonarr/radarr are with picking a useable torrent. I think 80-90% of the time I don’t have to think about it, but there are some shows I’ve had to really dig for. Private trackers make it way easier

Dyskolos ,

Rarely use torrents at all. Usenet. Screw upload ratio and that shit. I’m too old for that and i download a tb a month or so 😁

almost1337 ,

Sonarr and radarr aren’t going to do what you claim without a Usenet client to do the actual downloading. So on top of your *arrs you also have to pick a quality indexer, find and pay for a Usenet provider, and set up your download client. And preferably use a nicer frontend for finding the content a la Overseerr or Ombi. And probably Bazarr to get subtitles for all the anime/foreign language content. Also good luck getting good, consistent releases automatically without some serious dedication to setting up your quality profiles.

quixotic120 ,

You can set up sonarr/radarr to use torrent clients but it’s more effective with and built for Usenet for sure. But it still works fine with torrents. It’s also not terribly difficult to setup quality profiles if you know basic regex

My setup does the following: For movies: downloads 4k remux from private trackers first, then Usenet filtered by ideal release groups, then 1080p remux from private trackers, and then Usenet by ideal release groups. If those all fail then I am notified so I can take a look at the releases that are left over

For tv: pretty similar

For anime: releases pulled from sneedex when possible. When not AB/nyaa remux preferred, then fall back on BR rip hevc from either those trackers or Usenet via AT.

Regex to also filter for things like I prefer Dolby vision and atmos audio with my setup whenever possible. I filter for English releases unless it’s a foreign film or anime (refuse dubs, yuck). With anime I filter for common fansub groups like subsplease, commie, etc to ensure a release has subs.

And jellyseer so that my family and friends don’t have to deal with any of the above and can just type in “movie name”

It’s not perfect of course mainly because sometimes people upload stuff with bad tagging and file names, but it works well the overwhelming majority of the time and I am able to grab media extremely quickly on gigabit internet. A 4k remux movie downloads in 6-10 mins usually because I have the connection throttled a bit so that my other computers in the house don’t all choke just because a movie started downloading

Then there’s the other benefits: a komga server with all my books, sheet music, and manga that can be served to my ereader/phones/laptop via mihon or any of the Tachiyomi forks. No need to bother with mangadex or bato, my manga all loads extremely fast, ad free, no watermarks/credit pages and is the highest possible quality.

I have a navidrome setup for all my music and finamp (I use jellyfin, fuck plex and their snitching). I have a dns server so I can adblock everything in the house, I don’t have to worry about installing extensions and can run adblock on devices that typically can’t run extensions like smart TVs.

I also now have a significant amount of network storage, over 100tb. My computers all back up to that and the server is archived to tape once a month. I don’t need to bother with google, apple, dropbox, amazon, etc. having copies of my files.

This all took about 2 days to setup and runs on hardware that’s worth about $150 (minus the drives but you don’t need to start with that much storage). You just need some e waste pc from 2015 or so and the know how, which isn’t that hard to gain. This is all well documented online. The trash guides will get your sonarr/radarr setup 85% of the way there. if you’re like me you’ll diverge from their decisions pretty quickly, but that’s just a matter of modifying the regex a bit and their discord is very active and helpful with questions if you don’t understand something. Plus there are thousands of reddit posts, youtube videos, etc.

All the software is free (unless you use something like unraid or the premium plex) and a Usenet subscription is dirt cheap if you wait for a major sale like Black Friday, I pay $40/yr for unlimited

Dyskolos ,

Sure you need those too (except maybe the frontend). Not like it’s hard work. And once setup it runs basically forever without tinkering.

So far rarely had bad luck with inconsistent releases. And considering with how warez were when i started doing warez (before the interwebz), it’s super consistent.

What is yout point even? You seem to use the same?

zaknenou ,
@zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Anon’s gf is a normie

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