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prole ,

DualSense is the best right now IMO due to the features. If you don’t believe me, actually play Astro’s Playroom.

But I love the Steam Deck’s layout (so I guess I’d probably like the Steam Controller as well). A lot of that has to do with Steam Input being fucking awesome, but it’s also possible to get relatively good at using the touchpads as mouse, and the “touch right stick to enable gyro” is an awesome feature that has made FPS games playable on console for me.

Virkkunen ,
@Virkkunen@fedia.io avatar

I had a dualsense before, bought it thinking of those features. Turns out that a few games had support for it on PC, and most were shooters so I wouldn't play using a controller.

The battery was abysmal too, it would barely last 4 hours. I've heard on some places that it was due to the touchpad being polled for input all the time, draining the battery.

Moved over to a 8bitdo ultimate Bluetooth with Hall sticks and couldn't be happier

mox ,

I have read that early DualSense units had a bug that affected battery life. If you still have yours, it might be worth updating the firmware.

prole ,

I haven’t used mine with PC (I usually just use an X-Box One controller, which was my fav prior to DualSense probably), but it’s a shame that more games don’t use the adaptive triggers and haptic feedback. It’s used relatively often and pretty well on PS5, and for me it’s a borderline killer feature. If more games utilized it in the way Astro’s Playroom did (yes I know it’s a tech demo but that’s kind of the point), it would be far and away my favorite for any system.

Haven’t had issues with battery life, but taht could be because I’ve updated firmware, or maybe the PS5 is just better at managing the DSs’ battery since they’re made for eachother. I also got the official brand charging dock, so perhaps that has something to do with prolonging battery life? Couldn’t tell you.

eezeebee ,
@eezeebee@lemmy.ca avatar

I hated the Xbox controller when it first came out, probably because my child-sized hands couldn’t reach the buttons comfortably. So it was Playstation style for a long time.

Now as an adult I’ve switched over to the Xbox style (easier to plug and play for Steam gaming) and I like it a lot. It feels a lot more durable than any other controller I can remember using. Though I feel the size and weight of the controller makes it slightly more difficult to use the bumper and trigger buttons compared to PS controllers, it’s not a big deal because I’m not playing FPS these days.

sleepybisexual OP ,

Both styles are cool. Tho I have a slight preference for symmetrical sticks

slacktoid ,
@slacktoid@lemmy.ml avatar

The steam controller. I love the trackpad!

IGuessThisIsForNSFW ,

I hugely regret not buying 10 of them when they were liquidating their stock and selling them for $5. I love mine and am really worried about what I’ll do when it inevitably breaks.

themoken ,

That trackpad was a game changer for playing KB+M games with a controller, but to be honest sometimes I really miss the right joystick. The trackpad can fake it, but it’s not the same.

If they ever do another standalone controller I’d want it to be like a screen-less Deck. Both joysticks and trackpads and a couple more grips.

slacktoid ,
@slacktoid@lemmy.ml avatar

I agree with the direction of the v2 controller. Im honestly a trackpad fiend as i never got the hang of the joystick.

muhyb ,

If Steam controller also had joysticks, it would be the ultimate controller.

Arkham ,

Steam Controller is a flawed masterpiece that I wish we had gotten another iteration of.

Also, speaking of the 8bitdo Pro 2 line, the wired Xbox version of the Pro 2 is pretty great. It’s similar to the regular Pro 2, but it has analog triggers, uses Xinput, and has Xbox coloring and branding. It’s like they took the best parts of Xbox, SNES, and Playstation controllers and mushed them all together.

sleepybisexual OP ,

The normal one has xinput too. I have the general one. My pro2 has analog triggers too

makingStuffForFun ,
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

I quite like a good ps4 controller

sleepybisexual OP ,

I agree

Berttheduck ,

Have you tried the ps5 controller? Genuinely my favourite thing about the ps5. The adaptive triggers and the haptics are so good. The battery life feels better too. That was my biggest complaint about the 4s especially compared to the ps3s, those lasted for weeks.

prole ,

Yeah if they like the PS4 controller, then they’ll 100% love the DualSense.

Just play Astro’s Playroom and you’ll get it.

Sordid ,
@Sordid@beehaw.org avatar

I have both PS4 and PS5 controllers for use with my PC, and I prefer the PS4 one because it feels more comfortable in my hands.

makingStuffForFun ,
@makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml avatar

I have and it was amazing but I don’t own one and I’ve never used it as a controller on the Linux PC.

Tywele , (edited )

My favourite controllers are still the official Xbox controllers because of Xbox Design Labs. I like to have my controller look the way I want. And also they seem to be the only controllers that can still be powered by 2 plain rechargable AA batteries.

Edit: Here is my design for anyone curious: Xbox Design Labs Screenshot

sleepybisexual OP ,

Nice

Xbox ones are cool but I can’t wrap my head around the buttons being inverted compared to Nintendo. Also how’s the dpad?

Tywele ,

For me it’s the other way around 😅

The D-pad is really nice. It’s very clicky.

sleepybisexual OP ,

Nice, clicky dpad good

theskyisfalling , (edited )

I don’t care about colours or AA batteries, I’d rather have a cable personally, I do agree on the choice though.

Anything from the 360 onwards are my preferred controllers. A permanently wired 360 controller that does away with the massive battery compartment it my favourite but these days I use an “Xbox one” version with the USB C cable.

along_the_road ,

You can use a typc-c to usb cable with the controller if using the controller with windows not sure about other platforms

theskyisfalling ,

Yeah, as I said, I use an Xbox one controller with a USB C cable. My PC has a USB C port so I just use C to C. I just wish there was a permanently wired official version of the controller that did away with the huge battery compartment on the back :)

StereoTypo ,
@StereoTypo@beehaw.org avatar

My design was on the front page a few years ago…

https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/d586db51-d395-4fa9-95a9-072416cb546d.webp

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

Is there no option to design a wired one? =/

theangriestbird ,

Can’t believe I had to scroll this far for this. To my mind, the modern Xbox controller is the perfect controller for PC. Like you said, this the AA batteries and colorways are great, unique features. On top of this, it’s well-laid out, feels good in the hand, and every button, stick, and trigger feels great to use. And most importantly, it has the broadest compatibility. Every game recognizes the Xbox controller, and almost every game has Xbox button prompts built in.

The only thing missing is hall-effect sticks, but I’ve never experienced stick drift on an Xbox controller so it’s not like I would notice a difference.

BuboScandiacus ,

The Xbox controllers are too big for my small hands. For people like me the dualshock 4 is more adapted + it has better build quality and feels sturdier all around

theangriestbird ,

DS4? As in the one for the PS4? It’s a bit of an unfair comparison bc they are different gens, but i would definitely argue that the current Xbox Series controllers are higher build-quality than the DS4. My Xbox One controller had creaky, rattly shoulders and an okay but not great d-pad. The newer ones fix that, fortunately.

All that said, I will not dispute that it’s probably less ideal for smaller hands. Sony has always gotten that part right.

hobbsc ,

I’ve been enjoying the GameSir G7 for a while. It’s wired but I kind of prefer that. My first G7 had a faulty left stick in the first two months. I think it was faulty from the beginning but I just didn’t notice it. I sent them a video of the issue and they replaced it outright.

It’s a bit smaller than my Xbox elite controller and it feels pretty great. I like the clicky dpad and the two back buttons. Stick tension is nice as well.

I’d like to see trigger stops but they haven’t done that yet. I’d also like to have clicky face buttons so I’m considering one of their khaleid controllers. Those are minor nitpicks, though. This controller has been terrific.

hazelnoot ,
@hazelnoot@beehaw.org avatar

Another vote for the steam controller - it’s versatile enough to work comfortably with every game I’ve wanted to play.

sic_semper_tyrannis ,

I really enjoy the Gulikit King Kong Pro 2 (and would assume the 3 is better) because it all runs on firmware. No software to install, it just works as it should. Also works on Linux without fuss.

On its functionality side it has hall effect triggers and joysticks plus nice buttons.

sleepybisexual OP ,

Nice :3

The 8bitdo also had good firmware but an optional app for macros

cafuneandchill ,

Also using 8bitdo Pro 2, I like it. Bluetooth connection is somewhat crusty – for some reason, games think that I’m holding LT, despite me not pressing it. Maybe it’s a Linux Mint thing, I dunno. Works perfectly wired, though

sleepybisexual OP ,

Never had any issues

Kissaki ,

Steam Controller.

It’s big enough for my long hands. And it has a ton of features and customizability.

What I don’t like is the right track pad when games expect a joystick. Depending on the game controls, it can be suboptimal. (configurable to a degree with center deadzone)

OmegaMouse ,
@OmegaMouse@pawb.social avatar

The 8Bitdo Pro+ has been great - works really well with my Steam Deck and Switch. Sounds like the Pro 2 is the superior version with hall effect sticks.

The Switch Pro controller has always been good too. And the DualSense is really neat with the haptics and adaptive triggers - expensive, but not that much more than a Pro controller surprisingly.

sleepybisexual OP ,

Yea, the Nintendo pro controller is way overpriced, before u got my 8bitdo I used these cheapo switch ones that were 7 euro a pop and they were good

OmegaMouse ,
@OmegaMouse@pawb.social avatar

To be fair I’ve had the pro controller for several years and it has held up really well. Really ergonomic and the vibration’s good, plus it has gyro. Perfect for my needs on Switch. I think it was worth what I paid.

sleepybisexual OP ,

Oki :3

Which question but does it have hall sticks?

OmegaMouse ,
@OmegaMouse@pawb.social avatar

No the pro controller doesn’t have hall effect sticks, but I’ve not experienced any drift. I did take it apart once to clean the insides however.

I had no end of problems with the joy cons, and have replaced those sticks with hall effect ones. Since doing that I’ve not had any problems, touch wood!

sleepybisexual OP ,

Oh ok

prole ,

The D-pad on the Switch Pro Controller is hot garbage. Unless they changed it.

OmegaMouse ,
@OmegaMouse@pawb.social avatar

Admittedly I don’t use the D-pad all that much - does it not register inputs well? I guess it’s pretty important if you’re playing a fighting or retro game that require precise inputs. For the games I’ve played, it hasn’t been an issue.

darkpanda ,

The contacts inside are too big and sensitive and it results in phantom inputs. The DIY fix is to open up the controller and literally cover parts of the input contacts with tape.

poVoq ,
@poVoq@slrpnk.net avatar

Steam controller obviously (for everything other than retro gaming which often requires a dpad).

sleepybisexual OP ,

Not familiar with that, is it the trackpad one?

poVoq ,
@poVoq@slrpnk.net avatar

Yes, see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_Controller

sleepybisexual OP ,

That thing confuses me

Why are the buttons below, why is there a stick if there are pads

poVoq ,
@poVoq@slrpnk.net avatar

The stick is better for movement, while the pads are better for aiming. And the buttons work fine where they are.

Arguably the left side pad is a bit useless for gaming itself, but its nice to have two pads for desktop navigation and using the on screen keyboard that is build into steam.

sleepybisexual OP ,

Oh ok

averyminya ,

Careful now, the swarm of all 11 people who use the left touchpad for movement might hear you and eat you alive while they chant, “just try setting movement to the left touchpad. You’ll never go back… You’ll never go back …”

strongarm ,

It’s true, I’ve never gone back, also the joystick is a bit naff anyway

averyminya , (edited )

I’ve tried it a number of times and just can’t get it to work for me. Far too much travel distance for me, and the lack of tactile feedback makes it difficult. In some ways, I like the floatiness feeling that that the travel distance creates, but ultimately it wasn’t worth the precision adjustments.

I tried it for some 2D side scrollers, FPS, and 3rd person games. I liked it most for 3rd person but couldn’t get a hang of the other two.

Plus, I really like using the left touch pad as a floating menu, which the joystick can’t do haha.

Oh, I forgot to say – the Steam Decks smaller track pad is actually nice for this reason because the shorter travel distance solves the floatiness issue for me in a lot of cases. I actually play Revita 50/50 between touchpad and joystick, just based on how I’m feeling.

QuentinCallaghan ,
@QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz avatar
  • 8bitdo SN30 Pro
  • GameCube controller
  • Nintendo Switch Pro Controller
  • Super Famicom controller (mainly the face button colors and layout)
sleepybisexual OP ,

What’s so good about the switch pro?

I agree with the rest :3

QuentinCallaghan ,
@QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz avatar

Ergonomics, NFC support and gyro. Of course the rumble could be stronger but I have gotten used to it.

sleepybisexual OP ,

My aliexoress ones have super strong rumble. NFC is cool. But don’t most switch stuff have gyro?

QuentinCallaghan ,
@QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz avatar

Most Switch games support gyro functionality, and of course the Joy-Cons also have gyro.

sleepybisexual OP ,

Everything has gryo unless its really cheap

JillyB ,

I think most PowerA controllers don’t have gyro or NFC. PowerA is what you’re most likely to find as a 3rd party controller.

airbussy ,

Steam Controller is of course an unbeatable classic, almost it’s own category with the weird but charming touchpads.

Of the more conventional controllers I’m a big fan of my current Gulikit KK3 Max. I was looking for a controller with Hall-effect joysticks, and this one looked like one of quality, so I decided why not eh. Feels like a good controller when I use it, so I’m content with it.

termus ,
@termus@beehaw.org avatar

I would love to see a Steam deck like version. It really needed a right analog stick and a touchpad.

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