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smileyhead ,

No Google Play or App Store?

Oh, I’m so sorry, no fresh water for you.

Starkstruck ,

Pay for the PRIVILEGE of not drinking contaminated water!

DragonTypeWyvern ,

You think American tap water is contaminated?

Starkstruck ,

Not nesssicarily, but the “filtered” part of the premium water seems to imply that you have to pay to get cleaner water.

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

REE!

StaySquared ,

You know what’s beautiful about capitalism?

You, the consumer… you can control the producer. How? By NOT investing into their products and services.

Until next time!

umbraroze ,

You know what’s even more beautiful about capitalism?

When national (and multinational) legislation sets extremely high standards for drinking water providers. So high, in fact, that tech bros just go “you know, I have no idea how to improve on that”. So they don’t launch their shitty product here in the first place.

Until next time!

undergroundoverground ,

Nothing about capitalism is beautiful.

In the real world, some wealthy, work shy scrounger, born to wealth, will decide that they like the idea of gouging people as much as possible for water. As such, they’ll lobby the government to make sure its the only product available. Or, they’ll buy out all the competitors, making it the only product available.

Thats because capitalism ruins everything it comes into contact with.

StaySquared ,

The issue then is lobbyist / money in politics.

undergroundoverground ,

But we can’t have capitalism without lobbyists or money in politics, as can be seen by the fact that we have a single democracy that hasn’t been utterly perverted by capitalism. As such, the issue is capitalism and its toxic effect on everything it comes into contact with.

StaySquared ,

Does Capitalism require lobbyists?

Capitalism, as an economic system characterized by private ownership of the means of production and the pursuit of profit, does not inherently require lobbyists. However, the presence of lobbyists is a common feature in many capitalist societies, particularly in democratic political systems where businesses and other interest groups seek to influence government policy and regulation.

Why Lobbyists are Common in Capitalist Societies Influence on Legislation and Regulation: In capitalist economies, businesses often lobby the government to create favorable conditions for their operations. This includes influencing legislation, regulatory frameworks, and policies that impact their industry.

Protection of Interests: Companies and industries may use lobbyists to protect their interests against unfavorable legislation or regulation that could hinder their profitability or competitive position.

Access to Decision-Makers: Lobbyists provide businesses with access to lawmakers and regulators, facilitating a dialogue where they can present their case and advocate for policies that benefit their operations.

Complexity of Modern Economies: Modern capitalist economies are complex, with numerous sectors and industries. Lobbyists help navigate this complexity by specializing in specific areas of policy and regulation, providing expertise to both businesses and policymakers.

The Role of Lobbyists in Different Contexts Positive Role: Lobbyists can play a positive role by ensuring that policymakers are well-informed about the potential impacts of legislation and by representing the interests of various stakeholders, including small businesses, trade associations, and non-profits.

Negative Perceptions: Lobbying can also be perceived negatively, particularly when it leads to undue influence, corruption, or policies that disproportionately favor wealthy corporations over the public interest.

Alternatives and Checks Public Participation: Encouraging broader public participation in the legislative process can counterbalance the influence of lobbyists.

Transparency and Regulation: Implementing transparency measures and regulations on lobbying activities can help ensure that lobbying serves the public interest and does not lead to undue influence.

In conclusion, while capitalism does not require lobbyists, they have become an integral part of the political and economic landscape in many capitalist societies. Their presence reflects the interaction between economic interests and political decision-making, aiming to shape policies in ways that can support or enhance the functioning of the capitalist system.

undergroundoverground ,

I don’t remember saying it required lobbyists or that anything I said required it to be true but I can see why you had to stoop to pretending that I did. I would’ve struggled too.

WE can have it without them, as can be seen by the fact that we can’t have capitalism without them. Maybe capitalism could hypothetically exist without them but not on this planet or with us as the species using it.

Can you show an example of a democracy that hasn’t been utterly polluted by capitalism?

Also, love the copy paste, as if it proved anything here. Link your source or its just random BS you stuck > in front of. Also, also “actually, wealthy interests disenfranchising you of your vote and your democracy of validity is a good thing…” too funny.

StaySquared ,

Democracy in of itself is corrupt. It’s why many nations don’t want it and why Western powers have to bomb or coerce Democracy into other nations.

Let me be clear, I love Capitalism. I wish everyone in a Capitalist society would become wealthy from their hard work. I hate lobbyists and interests groups. And I hate governments who dk suck lobbyists for their personal gains rather than the prosperity of its citizens.

undergroundoverground ,

Representative democracy has its problems but that doesn’t mean it can’t and isn’t further corrupted by capitalism.

Well, when the capitalist powers want something those counties have, they also install dictatorships and theocracies. In fact, capitalism doesn’t care what system it is, it will corrupt and toxify them all.

istanbullu ,

This doesn’t work because humans are pathetic. Impossible for them to take a stand on principle.

StaySquared ,

I can definitely agree with that.

drathvedro ,

I am astounded by the amount of irrational hatred in here towards what is essentially a T-junction pipe…

uis ,

:)

ultratiem ,
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar
gallopingsnail ,

It’s the fact that they’re charging for something that should be available at no cost.

Glass0448 ,

“Water is, of course, the most important raw material we have today in the world. It’s a question of whether we should privatize the normal water supply for the population. And there are two different opinions on the matter. The one opinion, which I think is extreme, is represented by the NGOs, who bang on about declaring water a public right. That means that as a human being you should have a right to water. That’s an extreme solution. The other view says that water is a foodstuff like any other, and like any other foodstuff it should have a market value. Personally, I believe it’s better to give a foodstuff a value so that we’re all aware it has its price, and then that one should take specific measures for the part of the population that has no access to this water, and there are many different possibilities there.”

Peter Brabeck-Letmathe served as Nestlé’s CEO from 1997 to 2008

What an asshole

Wizard_Pope ,
@Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world avatar

Indeed. thank god we have actually made it a human right where I live

SLVRDRGN ,

Asshole is a Lite term.

hierophant_nihilant ,

It’s a failed crowdfunding campaign, their last tweet is from 2017

CptEnder ,
exanime ,

I wonder if they returned the $40K

psmgx ,

Yeah this a meme. Thankfully common sense, common decency, and the market won out

FuryMaker ,

Those who buy into this shit lose their right to complain that they can’t afford to live.

explodicle ,

Honestly, I expect nothing less than perfection. On drugs? Death. Playing xbox? Death. $2/mo water filtration? Death. If they just had more willpower, then they wouldn’t be homeless!

The guys who replaced public water fountains with plastic bottles are cool though.

Excrubulent ,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

Product designers are supposed to understand pareidolia and will often intentionally put faces into their designs. Some designs look happy, others like sports cars can be made to look aggressive.

The top of this design looks like some combination of angry, sad and disappointed, which I like to think is intentional.

mister_flibble ,
pantyhosewimp ,

Dang, I miss those days of Homestarr Runner.

PopShark ,

Trogdorrrrrrrrr

The burninatorrr

rmuk ,

I’m sad that I’m buying.

Ultraviolet ,

The fact that modern cars are intentionally designed to look like their headlights have angry eyebrows is honestly one of the funniest things I’ve ever learned.

bestusername , (edited )
@bestusername@aussie.zone avatar

Jokes on you; I torrent my water!

Zozano ,

A torrent of water, if you will.

bestusername ,
@bestusername@aussie.zone avatar

And plenty of leachers.

uis ,

What a bunch of seeders.

oce ,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

I just cry myself a river.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

I stream it

Iheartcheese ,
@Iheartcheese@lemmy.world avatar

Leave.

dogsoahC ,

Drill a fucking hole in that motherfucker and siphon it off. Or just drink tap water. It’s fine. At least where I live. But still drill a hole in there to fuck with them.

HawlSera ,

Actually… It’s straight up not safe to drink from here.

dogsoahC ,

That feels like a boring dystopia in and of itself.

kittenzrulz123 ,

Certified Capitalism™ moment

Agent641 ,

This is why we hack.

systemglitch ,

Anything that requires an app for payment is something I never use. No exceptions so far.

KrankyKong ,

Kinda reminds me of paying to use the bathroom in Germany. Is that still a thing?

whome ,

Not in general, never was. But in certain places definitely, like has stations along the Autobahn, train stations and some department stores.

Jakeroxs ,

Never was a thing except where it is.

whome ,

In general

Jakeroxs ,

It’s just funny, I get what you meant but saying it “never was” and then immediately undercutting that with examples where it is indeed a thing means it IS a thing.

Your point, I asume, is that it’s not the norm or status quo, but it does exist.

Crashumbc ,

It was semi popular in the US in resort towns. I remember some beaches had dime machines to unlock the toilet stalls in the public bathrooms.

vonbaronhans ,

Reefill.com isn’t even a registered domain. I call horseshit.

Railcar8095 ,

indiegogo.com/…/reefill-ditch-bottled-water-for-g…

There are several articles about it and an indiegogo, if fabricated a lot of people bought it few years ago.

fiercekitten ,

You are right, it is not a current valid domain. It was an Indiegogo crowdfunded project though, and I am guessing it failed.

joenforcer ,

pitchbook.com/profiles/company/178262-56#overview

Went under about two years after the crowdfunding. Guess people didn’t want to pay $2 a pop for chilled and filtered tap water.

fiercekitten ,
zakobjoa ,
@zakobjoa@lemmy.world avatar
librejoe ,

i thought it was 1,99 subscription?

dubyakay ,

It was.

I’m paying about C$50/ year for an under-the-sink cold water inlet filter. It’s not a subscription, but that’s roughly how often I need to replace the filter. So $2/mo isn’t that bad.

l10lin ,

Surely their price is considerably low, but given the limited locations where people can actually get access to the water, it is not that cheap. Imagine waiting in line with your mobile phone and your cup to get a little sap. You would want a huge water tank to cut down the frequency of fetching water. Good for motorhome users though.

dubyakay ,

Yeah, surely what this lacked was proliferation.

Dozzi92 ,
@Dozzi92@lemmy.world avatar

I believe it lacked alliteration. Should’ve called it Weefill. Do the Water Way with Weefill Water Waypoints, where you’re in for the wettest of whistles.

MadBob ,

Delightful comment!

Malfeasant ,

Fill it with wee!

Dozzi92 ,
@Dozzi92@lemmy.world avatar

Just a dollar ninety-nine and you’re in!

Gestrid ,

Also, if a lot of people happened to use the cold water, it probably wouldn’t be cold anymore by the time you got to it.

MystikIncarnate ,

Jesus, how much water do you drink?

I hope you’re aware that it’s possible to drink too much water and die from it…

dubyakay ,

Family of four. But I also use it to water the garden due to no other faucet near.

uis , (edited )

You use filtered water to… water the garden?.. At this point you could use your blood to water the garden.

Not saying that you shouldn’t water garden at all, because garden is good, garden is food.

dubyakay ,

Well, it’s an under-sink inlet attached filter, so the pressure throughput is the same as if you were to use a regular faucet.

uis ,

Does it change anything?

dubyakay ,

For drinking? Yes, the water stops tasting like chlorine and iron. It also filters lead, fluoride and other unvanted elements. Simple carbon filter I believe.

Not sure it makes any difference for the back yard though.

uis ,

Salts are fine, but you have lead in your water? Then yes, you better filter it, there is no safe lead concentration. Lead is super toxic for mammals.

You should make lab analysis of tap water. If your water company delivers water with lead, then you should complain and deal with it.

Another awkward translation.

dubyakay ,

Oh yes, North American cities in the east coast are known to have many dwelling built with lead pipes. Montréal is particularly bad, due to the high amount of multidwelling midrise plexes.

The city is running its replacement program, but it’s painfully slow. The first thing I did when moving in here was to install the filter.

There’s nothing really to complain about. Just have to be patient and keep the children from drinking unfiltered tap water.

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/a8234d80-f5ef-4537-9f09-e97d3ae79bbf.jpeg

SillyLikeSoupySales ,

$2 a -month- for unlimited “pops” during the month.

uis ,

At this point city could install them everywhere and fund from taxes

vonbaronhans ,

Fair enough. I stand corrected.

librejoe ,

hmm i wonder why…

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