“Members of [the US’s] U.N. delegation reiterated Monday that the Palestinian Authority needs to exert control over all of the Palestinian territories and negotiate statehood with Israel before it wins statehood”
The PFLP definitely represents Palestinian interests the best. Their Strategy for the Liberation of Palestine is the best book I’ve read on the subject; highly recommend.
As it is now though, even an Islamic fundamentalist organization like Hamas is a far more progressive force for Palestine just by being against the occupation, and the PFLP agrees. Their strategies are also pretty much identical to other armed resistance groups that have been successful in the past, like the Viet Cong (guerilla warfare, tunnels, hostages, etc)
The PFLP used to be the most influential Palestinian organization; that’s no longer the case now since the USSR — their largest supporter — was overthrown and the capitalist Russian Federation has no reason to fund socialist movements anymore (same reason why they don’t directly fund Vietnam, Bangladesh, DPRK, Cuba, etc now).
It’s also why Hamas is the most influential one now — because have the Iranian government’s support.
I took the time to educate myself and read more about the government situation in Palestine before forming an opinion on this. The last Palestinian election was in 2006, so I think it’s pretty uncontroversial that the current government of the Palestinian Authority holds no mandate from the people of Palestine. I think a good starting point would be to hold immediate elections, then hopefully there will be a change in government and negotiations can begin for peace in Palestine after Netanyahu goes to jail
What is their to negotiate with Israel? The Peace Process has been going on for 30 years and Israeli settlements only accelerated since then. The UN should take a decision and enforce it, of course the US will veto it because it never truly supported a Palestinian state.
Netanyahu going to jail won’t fix anything. Leaders don’t come into power by their merit, but by the system in place and its material conditions; the very existence of the fascist colony here means only hitlerite people like Netanyahu can come into power.
So long as this western proxy exists in Palestine as a separate state, it will continue to colonize it and serve the US’s imperialist interests of destabilizing the Middle-East. The only permanent solution is to drive out this foreign force entirely and revert it to the Palestine before zionist colonization where Muslims, Jews, Christians, etc lived together — this is also what the PFLP advocates.
There is nothing to negotiate with a colony. You would be legitimizing it by doing so.
You do realize that 95 percent of Tibetans were serfs and slaves who served feudal lords before the arrival of the Chinese communists, right? I’m sure they’re just dying to return to independence.
Liberals are always calling for balkanization. You’re completely missing the point. Tibet has been a part of China for centuries. Tibet was liberated by the PRC and reunified with China. All of this free Tibet energy is an invention of the west. There’s hardly anybody in Tibet asking to be freed.
Didn’t happen yet. Venezuela is still escalating tensions with force buildups on the border and passing laws claiming the territory, even though they agreed to go through the ICJ to settle the dispute.
Unfortunately Israel shitting all over the ICJ has delegitimized the court’s ability to weigh in on the matter, but they’re working it out through the Community of Latin American and Caribbean States. This is distinctly different from the situation in Ukraine because there wasn’t an equivalent organization that could handle disputes.
The whole Venezuela v Guyana thing is complicated as hell. It essentially started with the Dutch & Britain drawing Guyana’s maps wrong. Flash forward and Venezuela is all pissed that Guyana’s maps include their territory so arbitration is called in…and the arbiters are the US and UK of all nations. And of course they vote in Guyana’s favor.
So Venezuela of course is once again pissed and doesn’t accept the binding arbitration agreement. Flash forward again and now it’s been made even more complicated since oil has been found off the coast of the contested territory. Even worse, Guyana is poorly equipped to defend it.
its more like alliances in the americas is a giant venn diagram of sub alliances. its not really a black and white picture on country alliance. there are sub allliances that may only include 4 countries, then a few of those countries may have a seperate alliamce with 6 othera and such.
for example, most countries in the Americas are defended by monroe doctrine in the case of outside of americas colonization. some of these alliamces are basically conditional alliances fighting a specific cause.
I’m not sure I should believe a press release saying Maduro is the president when everyone knows is a dictator, playing outside de rules for elections, rule of law, narcotic alliances and money laundering.
Hell, that MF might not even be Venezuelan, no one ever has proven without a a doubt he’s of Venezuelan origin.
Here’s a third one: They have a Welcome Stamp visa program where you can work remotely from there for a year, and it’s renewable. You can even bring your family. Under this program you only pay income tax on your country of origin.
That still doesn’t answer the question. The second sentence in the Wikipedia article about the partition plan for Palestine is
On 29 November 1947, the UN General Assembly adopted the Plan as Resolution 181 (II).
so I’m not really sure how you got the idea that this was “just a proposal”.
The article you linked says
The United States says an independent Palestinian state should be established through direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority and not through UN action.
which makes it even more unclear. Was Israel created through UN action or did they just steal the land and expel the Palestinians? Did they negotiate directly with the Palestinians in 1948 and arrive on the agreement to share the land according to the borders that existed before 1967?
If you (or anyone) actually have an answer, I’d be happy to hear it.
Just because there’s a UN Resolution passed, doesn’t mean everything that’s proposed magically happens. Governments of all levels accept long-term plans, but then they need to do further actions to follow through on those plans (or in many cases, they don’t do anything and those plans just stay as dreams and what-ifs).
Israel is a state because they’ve declared it and the UN has accepted Israel as a member, it’s really that simple. If you want to know why Israel’s statehood was accepted, that’s very, very complicated and involves millennia of history. I certainly can’t condense it here, maybe others could, but I doubt it. I honestly think Wikipedia’s a pretty good source for the history of Israel, and I’d suggest starting the British Mandate and looking back if you need more context.
It’s immensely unfair, but I’m not sure I’d call that a “double standard.”
I’m no expert, Israel was accepted as a UN when they pledged to implement the partition plan. They’ve never followed through, so you could argue they lied to get in, but once they’re in, it’s difficult to expel/suspend a member.
It looks like it wasn’t until decades later that Palestine sought UN membership. So it kind of makes sense to say the applicant needs to appease the existing members. You could also argue the partition plan was/is unfair, and many wars have been fought over it. I’m just not sure the situations are similar enough to be a “double standard.”
This isn’t about appeasing existing members, it’s just the US blocking everything. Also, asking the colonized to negotiate with their own colonizers is absurd - just wolves and deer negotiating on what’s for dinner.
The double standard is “Israel gets to be a state without negotiating with the people it’s stealing the land from, Palestine doesn’t get to be a state without negotiating with the people who stole their land.” It’s a double standard enforced by the US, but it’s definitely a double standard and the rest of the world can see it.
All the US is doing is destroying its own credibility and the legitimacy of the UN. This shit is going the way of the League of Nations.
Alright, thanks. I took your advice and I think I found my answer in the 1948 Palestine war:
During the war, the British withdrew from Palestine, Zionist forces conquered territory and established the State of Israel, and over 700,000 Palestinians fled or were expelled. It was the first war of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict and the broader Arab–Israeli conflict.
Did they negotiate directly with the Palestinians in 1948 and arrive on the agreement to share the land according to the borders that existed before 1967? [ Does solving the issue by war count?
Before the 1948 Arab-Israeli War broke out, the Carmeli Brigade’s 21 Battalion commander had repeatedly damaged the Al-Kabri aqueduct that furnished Acre with water, and when Arab repairs managed to restore water supply, then resorted to pouring flasks of typhoid and dysentery bacteria into the aqueduct, as part of a biological warfare programme. At some time in late April or early May 1948, - Jewish forces had cut the town’s electricity supply responsible for pumping water - a typhoid epidemic broke out. Israeli officials later credited the facility with which they conquered the town in part to the effects of the demoralization induced by the epidemic.[50]
Israel’s Carmeli forces attacked on May 16 and, after an ultimatum was delivered that, unless the inhabitants surrendered, ‘we will destroy you to the last man and utterly,’[51] the town notables signed an instrument of surrender on the night between 17–18 May 1948.
No, war doesn’t count. Someone please tell Putin while we’re at it.
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