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China Supports the Addition of the Palestinian State to the UN

On Thursday, the spokeswoman of the Foreign Ministry of the People’s Republic of China, Mao Ning, demonstrated Beijing’s support for the addition of Palestine to the UN. ⠀

The spokeswoman also called for the United Nations not to delay the decision any longer and to take action to stop the genocide and end the bloodshed as soon as possible. ⠀

On the other hand, the United States said it will not accept Palestine’s request until a comprehensive agreement is reached with its ally, Israel.

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mindlight ,

That’s not how you spell “Tibet”…

monsieur_jean ,

But has Tibet reached a comprehensive agreement with China though?

pntha ,

the CCP bots down voting you for asking a legitimate question

Zuberi ,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s a stupid and loaded question AT BEST lol

nekandro ,

Question: is a country sovereign and independent if no other country recognizes it’s independence and it lacks the powers of de facto independence?

If so, then I guess I really could declare that my house is independence and have a bunch of freedom fighters show up to my door…

brain_in_a_box ,

The people of Tibet are full Chinese citizens being governed by the Chinese Gov. It’s not remotely comparable to Palestine.

Alsephina OP ,

Liberals dream of cutting up the imperial core’s adversaries to be shared between their capitalist ruling class

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t think many Tibetans would welcome a CIA-backed Dalai “suck my tongue” Lama coup government.

o_d ,
@o_d@lemmygrad.ml avatar

You do realize that 95 percent of Tibetans were serfs and slaves who served feudal lords before the arrival of the Chinese communists, right? I’m sure they’re just dying to return to independence.

el_abuelo ,

And you do realise that a people do not automatically revert to the state they were in the last time they were independent, right?

If Scotland were to gain independence I highly doubt they’d revert to their 17th Century feudal state.

o_d ,
@o_d@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Liberals are always calling for balkanization. You’re completely missing the point. Tibet has been a part of China for centuries. Tibet was liberated by the PRC and reunified with China. All of this free Tibet energy is an invention of the west. There’s hardly anybody in Tibet asking to be freed.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

that must’ve sounded so clever in your head 😂

Alsephina OP ,

On the other hand, the United States said it will not accept Palestine’s request until a comprehensive agreement is reached with its ally, Israel.

The “comprehensive agreement with israel” in question:

“Members of [the US’s] U.N. delegation reiterated Monday that the Palestinian Authority needs to exert control over all of the Palestinian territories and negotiate statehood with Israel before it wins statehood”

The Palestinian Authority is just an israeli tool these days that Netanyahu fully supports. It allows israel’s settler colonialism and arrests Palestinian activists and Palestinians protesting against them.

So basically the US will only allow “negotiations” if the entirety of Palestine is colonized.

Sagittarii ,

The US is just gonna veto it again then.

Death to amerikkka

NateNate60 ,

Just as a matter of curiosity, what other organisation would you say would be a better choice to run the Palestinian state?

Alsephina OP , (edited )

The PFLP definitely represents Palestinian interests the best. Their Strategy for the Liberation of Palestine is the best book I’ve read on the subject; highly recommend.

As it is now though, even an Islamic fundamentalist organization like Hamas is a far more progressive force for Palestine just by being against the occupation, and the PFLP agrees. Their strategies are also pretty much identical to other armed resistance groups that have been successful in the past, like the Viet Cong (guerilla warfare, tunnels, hostages, etc)

The PFLP used to be the most influential Palestinian organization; that’s no longer the case now since the USSR — their largest supporter — was overthrown and the capitalist Russian Federation has no reason to fund socialist movements anymore (same reason why they don’t directly fund Vietnam, Bangladesh, DPRK, Cuba, etc now).

It’s also why Hamas is the most influential one now — because have the Iranian government’s support.

NateNate60 ,

I took the time to educate myself and read more about the government situation in Palestine before forming an opinion on this. The last Palestinian election was in 2006, so I think it’s pretty uncontroversial that the current government of the Palestinian Authority holds no mandate from the people of Palestine. I think a good starting point would be to hold immediate elections, then hopefully there will be a change in government and negotiations can begin for peace in Palestine after Netanyahu goes to jail

PanArab ,
@PanArab@lemmy.ml avatar

What is their to negotiate with Israel? The Peace Process has been going on for 30 years and Israeli settlements only accelerated since then. The UN should take a decision and enforce it, of course the US will veto it because it never truly supported a Palestinian state.

Alsephina OP ,

Netanyahu going to jail won’t fix anything. Leaders don’t come into power by their merit, but by the system in place and its material conditions; the very existence of the fascist colony here means only hitlerite people like Netanyahu can come into power.

Gaza will not be any safer even if Netanyahu quits.

So long as this western proxy exists in Palestine as a separate state, it will continue to colonize it and serve the US’s imperialist interests of destabilizing the Middle-East. The only permanent solution is to drive out this foreign force entirely and revert it to the Palestine before zionist colonization where Muslims, Jews, Christians, etc lived together — this is also what the PFLP advocates.

There is nothing to negotiate with a colony. You would be legitimizing it by doing so.

bartolomeo ,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

No surprise the colonizers want the same “2 state solution” the Native Americans got.

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