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JustAManOnAToilet , to news in Trump Attorney Screwup Means Trump Won’t Get Jury Trial in NY Fraud Case

I can hear the ineffective assistance of counsel appeal being typed up now.

DigitalNirvana ,

Doubtless they will turn it a day late, and a dollar short. SMH

DontMakeMoreBabies ,

I'll write the order denying it - no prejudice given the mountains of evidence so he can '"get fukt".

DogMuffins ,

“OK so what’s our strategy here?”

“Well, I’m going to be so incompetent that when you’re inevitably found guilty you can appeal on the basis that I’m incompetent”

“Genius. I love it.”

Mammal , to news in Trump Attorney Screwup Means Trump Won’t Get Jury Trial in NY Fraud Case
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The guy with a reputation for not paying his attorneys is having trouble attracting good legal council?

Shocked. I’m shocked.

worldwidewave ,

His lawyers probably didn’t expect to juggle a dozen trials at the same time. That, and, no one even halfway competent would ever work for Trump. Most of his previous attorneys are codefendants in his criminal trials at this point.

Zerlyna , to news in Trump Attorney Screwup Means Trump Won’t Get Jury Trial in NY Fraud Case
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Oh no. 🍿

PeleSpirit , to news in Trump Attorney Screwup Means Trump Won’t Get Jury Trial in NY Fraud Case

Did he want a jury trial?

Sylver ,

Yes, because they fully believe that 40% of the nation would exonerate him. So they want jury trials to be stacked with loyalists. There is also the possibility that they want to know who will make the decision so they can be coerced.

CobblerScholar ,

Slash have his cult threaten their lives. He’s already gotten away with it a couple times without anything happening so why not again?

Wrench ,

Dude just literally put a mafia style “make him an offer he can’t refuse” hit on a 4 star general in our armed forces. With no consequences.

dhork ,

It depends on where the jury pool comes from. I doubt that 4 people in Manhattan or Brooklyn would want to exonerate him, much less 40%. But if they can pull from Staten Island as well, his chances of finding at least one goober who would be willing to ignore the facts and exonerate him get larger.

Cheesus ,

Long trials tend to have a large jury pool to select from. I was recently in the pool for a 7 week trial in Oakland and there were 150 of us to choose from. The defense just needs to find 4 Republicans to get into the jury and the case is over. You would assume a staunch Republican would try hard to get on the jury to help protect trump.

dhork ,

I think you underestimate how much New Yorkers (Particularly NYC) loathe Trump. Brooklyn and Queens saw something insane like 75% of the vote go to Biden, in Manhattan and then Bronx it was closer to 85%. And we can’t assume the remaining 15% are full MAGA, either, they may have just not liked Biden but were ambivalent to Trump.

Staten Island is where NYC keeps its Conservatives, it went for Trump 52 to 42.

Source: …wikipedia.org/…/2020_United_States_presidential_…

SquishyPandaDev ,
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Given the stack of damning evidence against him, probably. Jury’s adds an unknown quantity. So if you think you can win without on, you should not request one.

NounsAndWords ,

I think this is one of the trials with a Judge that he did not appoint…so he probably did in this one.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

NY city, not federal. The judge was not appointed by trump at all (and trump has been incredibly hostile to said judge,)

mateomaui , (edited ) to news in Trump Attorney Screwup Means Trump Won’t Get Jury Trial in NY Fraud Case

I posted this story in politics from another source a few days ago and it was removed because apparently the source wasn’t good enough and people couldn’t find it anywhere else. It was the only source reporting it at the time, but ok then.

edit: guess it was farther back than I remember, here’s that article from ~3 weeks ago

washingtonpress.com/…/attorney-error-trump-eschew…

edit2: yep, 19 days ago

https://i.imgur.com/4NHszwy.jpg

kaitco ,

Quit being so fast and accurate with your news! This isn’t Reuters!

mateomaui ,

Sorry sorry I’ll build in a delay from now on.

Rapidcreek , to news in Trump Attorney Screwup Means Trump Won’t Get Jury Trial in NY Fraud Case

It also really limits his appeals options.

krayj , to news in Trump Attorney Screwup Means Trump Won’t Get Jury Trial in NY Fraud Case

So the repeated (ad nauseum) Trump claim “I only hire the best people” isn’t accurate?

Asafum ,

It’s absolutely accurate, we just never asked by what metric “best” was being measured.

“Best” in this case was apparently “someone dumb enough to think Trump won’t screw them out of money.” :P

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

“They didn’t ask for payment up front.”

HuddaBudda ,
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If Trump could hire the best lawyers money could buy, he would.

Problem is he is either stiffed his previous lawyers, so the smart ones don't trust him.

Or those lawyers are now witnesses in his legal battles. So they can't represent him.

orbitz ,

Yeah when your lawyers have to record you (believe it’s something from Cohen’s testimony) to have a backup of what you requested, you don’t get the best lawyers. Trump would never hire someone that seems smarter them himself, he has to be the most intelligent person in the room (lol). No one intelligent would really act dumb enough to be hired by someone who is notorious for not paying, mean unless there’s other factors but he’s not getting a highly regarded and clean lawyer at this point.

CosmicTurtle ,

Anyone else have fun thinking about how fictional lawyers would represent Trump?

Like I could see someone like Lionel Hutz representing Trump. Maybe Barry Zuckercorn.

Not Bob Loblaw. I think Saul Goodman might pass on him. Kim Wexler I could see doing it probono.

n3m37h ,

I’ll let the team over at Legal Eagle answer that one

Wrench ,

So, I must have followed a link to one of their videos at some point, because the YouTube algorithm spammed me their shit for months until I blocked it.

What kind of content is it? The thumbnails and titles looked rage baity

Crozekiel ,

It’s actually pretty decent legal oriented YouTube entertainment. He’s a practicing lawyer that talks about current events and discusses possibly relevant laws or sometimes legal procedures. Sort of a more serious version of attorney tom.

CosmicTurtle ,

It’s pretty good. He definitely has a bias and I don’t agree with him 100% of the time.

For example, he advocates that forced arbitration agreements isn’t that bad. I don’t agree with that at all.

But it’s good content and high quality.

chiliedogg ,

He’s actually pretty good. I really enjoy some of his reviews of legal movies.

gravitas_deficiency ,

I only hire the best people*

*that will actually agree to work for me, which is a small and shrinking list.

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

and probably not get paid

Treczoks , to news in Trump Attorney Screwup Means Trump Won’t Get Jury Trial in NY Fraud Case

Good. Let’s hope that this is just the first of stupidities he stumbles over. Didn’t he already piss off the judge that presides over this case?

gravitas_deficiency , to news in Trump Attorney Screwup Means Trump Won’t Get Jury Trial in NY Fraud Case

Lol this is fantastic. The trial is going to be an absolute blast :D

captsneeze , to news in Trump Attorney Screwup Means Trump Won’t Get Jury Trial in NY Fraud Case

I’m just some idiot on the internet who doesn’t know what I’m talking about, but…

Is it possible this isn’t a mistake? If you’re going to try to win a trial through corruption and wrongdoings, it seems easier to illicitly win over (and have it stay quiet) one person than half of a jury, no?

OrteilGenou ,

You only need one juror though, no?

captsneeze ,

I’m honestly not sure. Does a jury vote need to be unanimous for a guilty verdict?

Googlyman64 ,

The jury has to be unanimous no matter the decision. If they can’t agree, they either deliberate as long as it takes, or if the jury is hung, then they’ll reduce the charges.

WHYAREWEALLCAPS ,

This judge already appears to have an axe to grind with Trump, so, uh, it probably would have been easier with a jury.

Madison420 ,

That’s their play, they don’t want a jury because they’re trying to pay the groundwork for a mistrial via judicial bias but that is a high jump and they’re stumbling on molehills.

DigitalFrank ,

Not a mistake. They plan to win on appeal.

winterayars ,

Sounds like he’s setting up an appeal to a sympathetic judge on the basis of “the evil liberals were mean to me!”

FReddit , to news in Trump Attorney Screwup Means Trump Won’t Get Jury Trial in NY Fraud Case

I’d love to see the judge rule from the bench on this.

militaryintelligence , to news in Trump Attorney Screwup Means Trump Won’t Get Jury Trial in NY Fraud Case

Did he fire his attorneys? No? Then it was on purpose. He’s building up to some political bullshit.

NOT_RICK , to mildlyinfuriating in New Speaker Mike Johnson Blamed School Shootings on the Teaching of Evolution
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These people would be laughable if they weren’t so dangerous.

refurbishedrefurbisher ,

Kind of where I’m at. I start laughing and then I get sad.

Holzkohlen ,

Just be sad all the time. Cut out the middle man.

spittingimage , to mildlyinfuriating in New Speaker Mike Johnson Blamed School Shootings on the Teaching of Evolution
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Nice suit he’s wearing there.

I believe according to his own rules you can stone him to death for mixing two different fibres.

dual_sport_dork ,
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I’ll bet he’s also eaten shellfish, and mixed meat with dairy.

BartsBigBugBag ,

Isn’t that in the Torah? I have never met a Christian who didn’t mix meat with dairy, that’s Judaism. Imagine Christian America if you told them they can’t eat cheeseburgers lmao. Actually, I think that might be the best way to beat religion in America. Ban cheeseburgers on religious grounds. Fat white balding men the nation over will revolt, once their arteries clear up from not eating burgers, that is.

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Well, it’s in Leviticus. Which is in the Old Testament in the bible that these fuckheads still espouse. And before anyone comes along and says: “But, Jesus swept all that away!!!” Remember that wingnuts still cite Leviticus (20:13, to be precise) as justification for persecuting homosexuals.

BartsBigBugBag ,

That makes sense, thanks. It’s been a couple decades since I’ve set foot anywhere Christian, and I hope to continue that streak for a few more, so I’d rather ask you than a Christian 😂

Omegamanthethird ,
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Here’s the trick. Jesus swept away the conviction rules but not the sin rules. As in some things aren’t bad per se, they’re just rules to show your devotion. Jesus made is so you don’t have to do those things anymore.

Now, what’s bad and what’s an arbitrary rule? Who the fuck knows? It’s a free pass to have your own rules.

zerosignal ,

Just like the constitution, republicans only pay attention to the parts of the bible that they agree with.

BeautifulMind ,
@BeautifulMind@lemmy.world avatar

Isn’t that in the Torah?

Exodus. Exodus is part of the Old Testament, along with Leviticus.

Leviticus (11:9-12) is where shellfish are banned, mixed seed or fabrics (19:19) It is where modern Christians cherry-pick their justifications on being anti-LGBTQ. (Lev. 18:22, 20:13)

Point is, they cherry-pick from the Old Testament when it suits them, and if you look at the rest of the rules in the books they reference that they ignore (e.g. tattoos, touching pig skin, eating pork, shellfish, etc. etc. ) it’s totally fair game to point out the rules they ignore in the same books as the ones they cite.

TexMexBazooka ,

It’s all arbitrary and stupid and differentiating between Abrahamic faiths is a waste of breath

lechatron ,
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He looks like the kind of guy that would enjoy a lukewarm milk steak.

thetoastmonster ,

The unholy cheeseburger

Sooperstition ,

Thanks, that’s my band name now

partial_accumen , to mildlyinfuriating in New Speaker Mike Johnson Blamed School Shootings on the Teaching of Evolution

He’s in a room full of people that were also taught evolution. How is he not cowering in fear under the desk one of his fellow congresspeople won’t shot him? Maybe, just maybe, evolution has nothing to do with it?

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