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GreenPlasticSushiGrass , (edited ) to aww in When it’s the 4th of July, and you rather be high as fuck on tramadol than deal with fireworks

I too am high as fuck on my dog's tramadol.

On edit: I just realized that I made a reddit hivemind joke in the vein of "I too something something OP's wife." I will work on breaking that habit. Baby steps!

dobeltip , to retrogaming in RG35XX - This is amazing!

Great device! I use Minui for this little handheld, i love the simplicity.

Kolanaki , to aww in When it’s the 4th of July, and you rather be high as fuck on tramadol than deal with fireworks
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I am surprised that neither of my dogs give a fuck about fireworks. They don’t even tilt their ears towards 'em (and no, they aren’t deaf). They will, however, absolutely lose their shit over sirens.

Ghostalmedia OP ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, my dog never used to care, then one year my ex-con redneck neighbor fired illegal mortars over the our, in a red flag fire zone, for house for 12 hours straight.

When I asked him to chill out, he threatened to kill me and said I hated freedom. Then then got in a physical fight with cops that night. Best neighbor ever.

Achyu , to programmerhumor in Lemmy

Is it a lemmy issue or a jerboa issue?

weird_nugget ,

I would say Lemmy issue. This is probably a default 502 internal sever error response (which I’ve been getting repeatedly from lemmy.world). Jerboa (I don’t use it btw) is only trying to parse the expected json response. Yes the app could handle the error more gracefully but if Lemmy didn’t respond with an error jerboa wouldn’t need to.

bappity ,
@bappity@lemmy.world avatar

personally I’d say it’s a Jerboa thing. the app should retry loading because sometimes I refresh after this happening and it immediately loads the proper content.

with all the different instances this sort of thing has to be kept in mind

angrymouse ,

Just retry is usually a bad ideia, specially that this problem is probably an overload, just adding retries can makes the problem.even worse with the app ddosing the server

bappity ,
@bappity@lemmy.world avatar

true

lemann ,

just adding retries can makes the problem.even worse with the app ddosing the server

Twitter has some experience with that

nothacking ,

Lemmy realy should not randomly emit errors for no reason, there should be no need for retries in this case. If the specification specifies a JSON response, and the server randomly provides HTML, that is a bug in the server.

r00ty Admin ,
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When you get a 502 error, that's not coming from lemmy, it's coming from nginx. If you're saying that nginx should send any error data along with the status in json if the accept headers require it, that's a task for nginx but it wouldn't happen in this case anyway since the json wouldn't be what they were expecting anyway. The app should be handling non success responses better is the point being made here.

nothacking ,

Lemmy realy should not randomly emit errors for no reason, there should be no need for retries in this case. If the specification specifies a JSON response, and the server randomly provides HTML, that is a bug in the server.

SuperIce ,

The error is not being emitted by Lemmy though. The 502 error message is returned to the client by nginx when the Lemmy server doesn’t respond within the a certain time.

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  • weird_nugget ,

    Yeah this makes more sense than my original comment

    buda ,

    Serious Answer: This is a Jerboa issue. Lemmy is written in Rust. The error message is a Java error which is what native Android apps use.

    Serinus ,

    I think it’s both, actually. Lemmy is often giving html where json is expected, and Jerboa isn’t handling the error well.

    usernotfound ,

    🤔 The server spits out html when it cannot reach the backend. So one could argue it’s a configuration issue because the admin didn’t provide enough capacity / didn’t set up a proper generic json error for backend failures.

    FWIW, Liftoff doesn’t handle these super gracefully either.

    At any rate I think it’s kinda awesome that we get to witness these kinds of infancy problems.

    nseguin ,

    Well, what should Jerboa do? Pretend it received content?

    entropicdrift ,
    @entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    It should display a human-readable error message instead of the raw one.

    Atemu ,
    @Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

    Take it as an error, tell the user about it and then retry with exponential back-off.

    MysteriousSophon21 ,

    No, it’s probably when the app is expecting a json but the server returns an html, which usually happens in case of 502 errors.

    barsoap ,

    You really shouldn’t be expecting any content type when you get any code but a 200. If anything you should expect HTML, then.

    nothacking ,

    No, this is a lemmy issue. The API specification specifies a JSON response, and the server randomly provides HTML, this is a bug in the server. I agree that Jebora should retry in the case of a network failure (timeout, 4xx staus codes…) but it should not have to retry in a case of a server that is not folowing the standard.

    mc1472 ,

    lemmy does not return 502 error codes because 502 means “bad gateway” and lemmy is not acting as a gateway, nginx is. An nginx sends the html. All apps should check the status code for codes like this one that don’t come from apps.

    Morcyphr ,

    If it’s Jerboa/Android app issue, why do I get JSON errors using Lemmy on my desktop PC with Firefox? Forgive me if this is a dumb question, I have very little programming knowledge.

    MrScottyTay ,

    Definitely jerboa

    victron ,
    @victron@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m having similar errors using liftoff

    victron ,
    @victron@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m having similar errors using liftoff

    activator90 , to aww in Just a happy boy, enjoying the wind

    That dog seems to be having a better life than me

    mitochondriawesome OP ,

    I work to give him a better life than me too, tbh

    davidgro , to programmerhumor in Lemmy
    Loki123 , to programmerhumor in programmers naming things

    Where’s the slaves?

    nouman , to programmerhumor in Lemmy

    imo wefwef is the best lemmy client app for iOS/android

    wefwef.app

    knfrmity , to programmer_humor in Truer words have never been spoken

    I’ve been working with such a poorly documented application that five minutes of debugging can save me hours of reading documentation. Thanks Microsoft.

    Gruntyfish , to programmerhumor in Lemmy

    Lmao I got a 504 when trying to open this post

    rimorso , to programmerhumor in Lemmy

    Lemmy is written in rust, that’s a java error so the issue lies with the app you’re using not Lemmy itself (maybe)

    Atemu ,
    @Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

    The cause is a 502 from lemmy.

    Jerboa’s handling of that error is also terrible but that’s another issue.

    4am ,
    @4am@lemmy.world avatar

    Memmy doesn’t do well with it either.

    Of course it doesn’t bode well for the instance itself that it’s throwing so many…but it’s unclear if that’s an operator problem or a code base problem.

    T156 ,

    It could also just be a server load issue.

    Lemmy.world, the community the instance is hosted on, has been having a few issues between the 0.18.1 update, and the amount of users on the platform.

    Marxine ,
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    Mostly the user count at this point, although things have become more stable the last few hours

    dukk ,

    Yeah, I’ve only experienced this issue when dealing with Lemmy.world. Building my own client, and I get the same issue all the time.

    Binderfullofpizza ,

    Is there a good Lenny app because so far wefwef hasn’t been great for me.

    balls_expert ,

    Thunder but features aren’t all there

    yads ,

    Jerboa or just in the browser. Honestly though most people’s issues are likely to be because they joined a huge instance which is falling over due to load. Consider making a new account on a smaller instance.

    Sylocule ,

    I am using Memmy at the moment and it’s well decent

    github.com/Memmy-App/memmy

    _thisdot ,
    @_thisdot@infosec.pub avatar

    Can you explain why? Are you using wefwef on Android?

    Binderfullofpizza ,

    I’m using it on iOS and don’t get me wrong the app looks beautiful. I’m finding issues with communities not loading posts, comments or general sync issues. I have an issue where trying to reply to a comment would overlay the comments over the textfield.

    wason ,

    That might be a server issue. Lemmy.world is still having performance issues and just like the picture in this post we are all seeing many errors often.

    Binderfullofpizza ,

    I appreciate the explanation.

    RoundSparrow ,

    I’m finding issues with communities not loading posts, comments or general sync issues.

    Lemmy’s Rust code uses an ORM called Diesel that masks the SQL statements and you really have to watch the PostgreSQL server independently to verify that the SQL isn’t doing wild things like loading thousands of records when you only needed 3. Just today people are finally sharing some information out of the big servers (lemmy.world) as to what PostgreSQL side says is actually happening. Hopefully the biggest mistakes are going to get cleaned up quickly.

    Distributed ,

    That sounds like a server issue. Try a smaller server

    Binderfullofpizza ,

    Can I change servers without changing my account?

    Distributed ,

    At this time, no. This is a limitation on lemmy’s side though

    brettrick ,
    @brettrick@infosec.exchange avatar

    @Binderfullofpizza In my opinion, Memmy is the best native app at the moment (for iOS).

    Binderfullofpizza ,

    Thanks I’ll give that a shot.

    foxrumor ,

    Wefwef has been the best for me so far. I’m a previous Boost for Reddit user, so I’m still waiting for their official Lemmy release and then I’ll switch.

    LeylaaLovee ,
    @LeylaaLovee@lemmy.fmhy.ml avatar

    Liftoff is the best I’ve found so far. Waiting for Sync to come though

    kras ,
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    Same. RIP sync, long live sync!

    klyde ,
    @klyde@lemmy.world avatar

    Hopefully it doesn’t take long. These other apps aren’t bad but they aren’t great either.

    uthredii ,

    I am quite liking liftoff. It has a slightly different layout to wefwef and you can customize it a bit if you don’t like the default colours.

    dukk ,

    What’s so bad with wefwef? I’m using it righty now and enjoying it.

    (Also, Memmy is another great Apollo-based app.)

    CrypticFawn , to aww in Foster Kittens!
    @CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Absolute cuties!!

    shrugal , to programmerhumor in Lemmy
    @shrugal@lemmy.world avatar

    Afaik this is not an error from Lemmy but from nginx, which is not able to relay the request to Lemmy and therefore returns a 502 bad gateway response. Imo this just means the servers are over capacity, so most likely a scaling/infrastructure issue.

    I had a quick read of the code and it looks pretty solid to me. Not the most “enterprise” code imaginable, but definitely no code smell or quick hacking job.

    KD_14 ,

    I read a couple PRs and it seems like the are rejecting the more hacky stuff.

    cyanarchy , to linuxmemes in You will never see an arch user use this

    Unknown command: nofetch

    I run arch, btw.

    ChamrsDeluxe , to mildlyinfuriating in The price of a cinema ticket in this day and age. No wonder people aren't going to the cinema anymore.
    @ChamrsDeluxe@lemmy.world avatar

    Tickets at my local theater is still lik $8. Wtf do you live?

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