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snek , to mildlyinfuriating in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.
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“Extreme levels of data scraping” my ass. This is probably meant to reduce server costs because Elon put a huge hole in this boat and now he does a very loud “look-what-you-made-me-do” scream. And what on earth would “system manipulation” exactly mean? Sounds like some pseudo-profound bullshit.

Chalky_Pockets ,

pseudo-profound bullshit

That sounds like every single public statement he’s ever made.

snek ,
@snek@lemmy.world avatar

And people keep falling for it. It will be a happy day when/if I figure out why people fall for this horseshit so much and how to overcome it.

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Most likely attempt to force people to pay if you ask me. Paid users have significantly higher limits according to him and I wouldn’t be surprised if they are not implemented for paying customers. Others have a casually low limit which can be reached easily.

snek ,
@snek@lemmy.world avatar

For me, the biggest mistake he made was put the signup wall without an initial reading limit of 1-10 tweets. Tweets are used as citation by journalists in news articles because people use it as an official platform and many journalists use it to report on what’s happening to a fairly large audience of followers. This is only one example where the signup wall ruins it all. You can’t even go in to read a single tweet. However, look at Medium. I despise it on a personal level due to the quality reduction it caused, but at least it only shows the paywall after your 1sth/3rd/10th article. At least it provides a window to your website from the internet. Elon Musk has slain that dragon too now, and all the windows to look through have been boarded up. He has walled himself and all Twitter users in.

JesusTheCarpenter , to youshouldknow in YSK: wefwef is a web app that look very similar to Apollo and works on both android and ios

Damn, our bean downvoting boys keep getting exposed.

Chariotwheel , to mildlyinfuriating in Just opened a bag of chips

Okay, but wouldn't you notice the weight at this point at the point of purchase?

Fudgy , to fediverse in Lemmy.world has grown by about 66.6% since reddit's API shutdown
@Fudgy@feddit.uk avatar

Came from Apollo, only been on Reddit once. That was enough for me…

Tygr ,

Only thing I’m messed up with is Reddit’s NSFW subreddits can’t be viewed logged out and I won’t log in either. Oh well. I won’t allow myself to contribute there.

Coelacanth ,
@Coelacanth@lemmy.world avatar

Can’t they be accessed without logging in from old.reddit still?

Tygr ,

Ahh, that’s why everyone loves the old subdomain. I hate the regular experience on desktop but on mobile, it was alright. Thanks for the tip.

esty ,
@esty@lemmy.ca avatar

if you liked apollo check out wefwef

tun ,

Replying from wefwef.app

Fudgy ,
@Fudgy@feddit.uk avatar

I’m using it thanks… :)

DrOakfield Bot , to mildlyinfuriating in Just opened a bag of chips

I know the feeling, happens to every bag of chips I open.

PebbleGamer , to youshouldknow in YSK: wefwef is a web app that look very similar to Apollo and works on both android and ios

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  • julesiecoolsie ,

    Everything is on someone else’s server, unless you are actively committing crime I’m quite sure not a soul gives a shit about your traffic

    jherazob ,
    @jherazob@kbin.social avatar

    It's still increased attack surface, also you don't need to be notorious for bad actors to want to steal your info or identity

    julesiecoolsie ,

    From your language I assume you are just starting out with security, and it’s common to arm up right away and be very cautious. Remember that social engineering is by far the most exploited and successful method, and even if bots are attacking your home network, they’re automated and will move on. Simply don’t run services at home that are public or exploitable, and if you do use tools like fail2ban. You can self host a vpn or proxy on a cloud instance if you really want to maintain your privacy, but then quantum computers exist now and they can decrypt everything you do on the internet in moments.

    alokir , to programmerhumor in object.setobject(object.getobject().object).to_object()

    Wait until you hear about the concept of properties in languages like Javascript, C#, Kotlin and many others.

    relevants ,

    At least for Kotlin it's literally just syntactic sugar for getter and setter methods. I really like them, don't get me wrong, but it's just the bottom approach masquerading as the top approach

    electronicoldman , (edited ) to fediverse in Lemmy.world has grown by about 66.6% since reddit's API shutdown

    Reddit is a read-only site for me now, and only when I’m searching for something specific. All my “forum browsing” time goes to Lemmy now. Can’t wait until I can unfollow the last few Twitter-only accounts (public transit alert accounts) so I can complete my migration to Mastodon.

    SuddenTrash ,

    Yeah trying to keep Reddit activity to a minimum myself. Not missing it tbh, other than troubleshooting posts through the years lol

    Fizz ,
    @Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

    If you have a problem post it to lemmy. We can try help.

    zerozaku ,

    if you are reading reddit only then I recommend to use libreddit.hu Doing this wouldn’t give reddit their juicy traffic

    4ce ,

    Or even better: install the libredirect extension to do this automatically, not just for reddit.

    zerozaku ,

    woah this is sick, thanks!

    kevtav , to fediverse in Lemmy.world has grown by about 66.6% since reddit's API shutdown

    I feel it, can barely reply from all the errors being thrown.

    CyberBoy ,

    Popular instances like lemmy.world have felt a lot of growing pains recently.

    I’ve made a secondary account at sh.itjust.works for enhanced shit posting capabilities, since it seems to be more responsive at the moment.

    Vohki ,
    @Vohki@lemmy.world avatar

    I feel bad for the lemmy.world admins that have to keep up with the software needed and costs accrued to handle the world knocking on their doorstep. I hope advertisers hit them up soon so their bills become easier to pay. While advertising was annoying on reddit, I’m more than willing to put up with it on this instance of lemmy, the admins have earned it.

    some_guy ,

    I hope advertisers

    I think this is an unpopular stance here. I’m not certain how else admins keep things running, but my limited time on Lemmy suggests people are hostile to ad-influence on how things run.

    deanne ,
    @deanne@lemmy.world avatar

    with this pace of growth i wouldn’t blame them if they got advertisements. and i believe that most people here use adblock anyway

    Psilves1 ,

    Just stop accepting new people

    There’s no reason to not push them towards other instances

    thayer ,

    I’m beginning to feel this way too. We need to distribute the load, especially at this early stage.

    What is also missing from the big picture is a dedicated “About” link in the navbar of Lemmy instances, providing users with a statement of detailed information on the people/organizations behind a given instance, its location in the world, its hardware, etc. A byline in the front page sidebar isn’t enough.

    CosmicCleric , (edited )
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    I hate to be the one to say this, but yeah, there’s a big reason why they shouldn’t be pushed to another server, at least not right now at this switchover from Reddit point in time.

    Most normal everyday people don’t even know what federation is, and tend to not like it when they find out, as it causes extra work on their part.

    They just want a central location where everyone is socializing together, and don’t care at all about the fediverse, except as maybe an escape hatch if some c-suite type goes evil.

    There’s already a hurdle people jump over on change in general, so we should minimize the effort of that change and coming over to Lemmy from Reddit.

    Edit: typos

    Psilves1 , (edited )

    I created an instance user on programming.dev and have had almost no issues seeing other posts.

    You don’t need to understand how it all works to use it

    Coelacanth ,
    @Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

    Ruud also runs Mastodon.world which has 160k+ users and manages to survive on donations alone. Not sure where the cutoff point is for when that is no longer viable, if there is one. Mastodon.social is huge and takes sponsorships and also gets some grant money I believe. They don’t run ads per se though and claim all sponsors accept contracts stating Mastodon is not going to be run in a way that is influenced by sponsors.

    jochem ,

    Please just donate… No need to invite ads here.

    DrSanta ,

    Unfortunately, the reality is that it may become necessary.

    Donations can be a saving grace if enough people donate regularly. But such is dependent on people’s willingness, their own financial stability, and how stressed servers are (how much it’ll cost to upgrade and/or maintain infrastructure.)

    It’s great if it’s viable. Means there’s less outside influence. But that’s if.

    As far as I’m aware, Wikipedia has been able to maintain it purely off donations. But I’m not sure if Lemmy could.

    Maybe? One thing Lemmy does have going for it is that the majority of users seem to be aware how… Fragile? the fediverses can be. There’s arguably more passion behind the users and maybe willing to throw support out.

    But hard to say.

    luthis ,

    Just joined their patreon today!

    jochem ,

    Most importantly: Lemmy instances are not being run for profit. There is no need to make exorbitant amounts of money to pay shareholders. Right now it’s enough to cover hosting costs, in the future you probably want to be able to pay a couple of people as well.

    Commercial instances are not off the table, but I hope we can avoid it. If it happens, I hope it will not be about profiting directly from the users, but instead through e.g. professional services. Imagine a company that hosts instances for entities that are willing to pay (I see this especially in the microblogging/Mastodon space, where for instance governments want to run their own instance).

    DrSanta ,

    Or maybe nonprofit organizations. Though I’m having a harder time imagining why they’d need a social network site, especially if it’s federated with our shit posting “sublemmies” or whatever we’re calling them here.

    jochem ,

    NLnet already sponsors the development of Lemmy. They donate money when certain roadmap items are achieved (which has slowed down due to the efforts to make Lemmy scale). NLnet sponsors organizations and people that contribute to an open information society.

    Places like Lemmy are not just shit posting. Just look at the immense value of the content at reddit. Google became so useless when the blackout happened. LLMs like GPT4 are trained for a large part on this human generated content. It’s absolutely vital that this information is not controlled by a handful large corporations as it is now. Federated social media could break this pattern and bring back a free and open internet.

    DrSanta ,

    Could yes.

    But only if they’re able to survive and thrive. Money is a very tricky thing.

    As for my example, I was talking more about something like Red Cross (random example) wanting their own Lemmy insurance. Why they would want that. I was really just jesting about the shit posting

    Vohki ,
    @Vohki@lemmy.world avatar

    Wikipedia is able to pull that off because wikipedia is a digital encyclopedia, not a social forum to add comments to or respond at a massive scale like lemmy is or reddit was. A majority of services either get their revenue from ads, or they start off not doing that but eventually have to cave in and let ads in.

    I think ads can be annoying sometimes, but if they’re done in a similar way reddit did them before their downfall, then it would be tolerable and at least give the lemmy.world admins enough money to cover server running costs

    ToNIX ,

    Try another instance, as close to your home as possible.

    You can browse the map here lemmy.fediverse.observer/map

    kevtav ,

    Good idea, opened up another account with our northern Canadian brother sh.itjust.works/ for backup

    ToNIX ,

    Yeah, I also have one on lemmy.ca, the ping is more consistent (both are 2-3ms).

    money_loo ,

    That’s really neat but the closest servers are private, lol.

    henfredemars ,

    I wouldn’t sweat so much picking a close server as long as it has enough users to be around for a while, reasonable rules, and isn’t under too much strain. Just by getting off the big servers, you’ll have a much faster experience and access to the same content.

    I moved from lemmy.world to this one that specializes in my interests, and it’s running great.

    money_loo ,

    Those are good tips, thanks, I found a smaller one recently and it’s MUCH better, things are actually loading now, lol.

    henfredemars ,

    It’s comfy; my setup almost never fails to load or post anything after load-balancing myself elsewhere.

    ToNIX ,

    Good tips! I should have explained a bit more, but by getting a server as close as possible, your ping should theoretically be lower than an instance that’s far from you (I know, the internet is not a straight line to the server).

    The best way to test this is by pinging the server in a CMD prompt/terminal.

    thesanewriter ,
    @thesanewriter@vlemmy.net avatar

    Indeed. If I remember correctly VLemmy is in Ireland, and yet I’ve gotten consistently fast responses from it except during server upgrades. I think the size of the instance really does matter here.

    FlihpFlorp ,

    I tried changing my profile picture on both desktop and mobile and keep getting thrown an error :/

    Well at least it’s not something that super important

    I can wait

    laxe ,

    I paused using lemmy.ml because 90% of the time it doesn’t work

    onepinksheep , to moviesandtv in Nimona (2023) is probably the second best movie I've seen this year! Have you/will you see it?
    @onepinksheep@kbin.social avatar

    Some major spoilers below! Since there's no markup for spoiler text yet, here's a gap to indicate spoilers. If you haven't seen the movie yet, skip this comment.

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    ::: spoiler spoiler
    Loved the movie, but found that the ending was the weakest part. I don't mind the resolution we got, it's just how we got that resolution that has some parts missing. How did the people suddenly go from fearing her to calling her a hero? Sure, she saved the city from getting blown up, but one act alone doesn't easily undo a thousand years of prejudice. After all, it doesn't seem like anyone knows the truth about what happened between Nimona and Gloreth. How did they clear Nimona's name of the Director's accusation? Who runs the kingdom now? Why didn't that dudebro knight get his face punched in? The ending was fine, but they glossed over a lot of parts that would have made the ending make more sense.
    :::

    Edit: Well, looks like the Lemmy spoiler code doesn't work on Kbin.

    Tacobenderyay , to fediverse in Lemmy.world has grown by about 66.6% since reddit's API shutdown

    Lfg!!! Proud to be apart of this new chapter

    jbernardini , to pics in Here's a picture of the Orion nebulae I took [OC]

    enhance.

    just kidding, fantastic!

    ludw OP ,

    enhancing

    enhanced image ready:…wikimedia.org/…/1280px-Orion_Nebula_-_Hubble_200…

    (this one is taken by Hubble)

    jbernardini ,

    well played!

    jennwiththesea , to mildlyinfuriating in This app.
    @jennwiththesea@lemmy.world avatar

    Holy wow, I had actually forgotten how shitty the site had become. I was always ready to open it and quickly scroll a couple times to get past the initial garbage, to hopefully find something worthwhile. That ask reddit post is peak “help the AI write an article” trash.

    ludw OP , to pics in Here's a picture of the Orion nebulae I took [OC]

    Here you can see where to find it in the night sky (assuming you find the Orion constellation): www.go-astronomy.com/images/…/Orion.jpg

    M42 is what the picture is of. Easy to find but hard (impossible?) to see without a camera.

    Nytelock , to mildlyinfuriating in Just opened a bag of chips

    That’s 4 servings right?

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