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deft , to memes in Principled Opposition

Coke and Pepsi game. Everyone does this.

China’s intelligence community is closer friends with America’s intelligence community than either of their own population.

yogthos OP ,
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deft ,

Intelligence communities are closer friends with each other than their own people.

Since you have so much free time go find the list of people imprisoned by either country, executed by either country and killed either directly or indirectly by these countries. You’ll see what I’m saying.

They have a better chance of making money one way than another, that’s always what all of this is about. Money.

Intelligence communities are better friends with each other than their own people.

yogthos OP ,
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This is one of those I’m 13 and this is deep takes.

VampyreOfNazareth ,

Money rules the world. It’s not deep, quite shallow in fact.

yogthos OP ,
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Like I said it’s an understanding a 13 year old would have.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
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Change the “e” in your username to “a”.

makeasnek , (edited ) to memes in WHAT IF...?
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What if:

  • Our government didn’t have the ability to print money? What if going to war meant raising taxes?
  • We took the control of the money supply out of their hands and instead used free and open source software to create money and move it around?
  • Our economy wasn’t predicated on a target 2-3% inflation rate? What if you were not incentivized to spend your money because it’s just losing value every day you don’t spend it? How might our consumption/production patterns change? How might that impact sustainability?
  • The government couldn’t move money from the 99% to the 1% every time a bank needed to be bailed out? What if they didn’t print away all the value of money you earned? What if when the economy grew, the value of your money increased just as it would naturally if somebody wasn’t printing away the difference?

How might the world look different?

pingveno ,

Small but steady inflation is good. The macroeconomic fear is that people will just hold onto their money in the form of raw currency. That’s bad. Currency is for a more convenient representation of value. I can’t compensate a roofer in computer code, so currency is a stand-in. But it also shouldn’t languish or else the economy stagnates. The world used to regularly experience zero inflation or deflation, which hurt the economy. As much as we’ve had some instability lately, things are nowhere near as bad as they could be.

Of course the flip side - hyperinflation - is also bad, but that’s not what we’re talking about here.

makeasnek , (edited )
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Good for who? Where does value move when your currency is reduced in value by an expansion in the supply? To regular people? No. Lower and middle class people are the ones who have the most cash, they have a higher ratio of cash to net worth than rich people who can put their money into assets. They have an emergency fund. They are saving up to become property owners.

Humanity survived and grew total economic output for millennia before inflationary paper currency came around. Inflationary paper currency is a relatively recent phenomenon. I’m not saying we should go back to the gold standard, but that ended in 1971. That’s pretty recent.

If you live in a hyperinflation environment, you will spend your money on anything because it’s better than holding onto that money and see it become worthless. It might seem silly to own 12 blenders, but buying yet another blender is a better investment than simply sitting on your money for a month in Turkey. At least a blender can blend and maybe be re-sold at a later date. That effect still happens in mildly inflationary economies: we are incentivized to buy goods and services we don’t need because the alternative is just slowly watching our money lose value. This is not a great incentive to have baked into our financial system when we live on a planet with finite resources.

On the other hand, if your money is expected to retain or gain value, somebody has to really convince you to part with it. Does that mean products are built to last? Built more repairable or sustainable? Perhaps. You will still buy things of course, everybody needs stuff, but at least the incentive is trending in the right direction instead of towards needless consumption.

Johanno ,

Ok ok ok. Now explain to me: if inflation is supposed to ensure people don’t horde money/value

How is it possible that Jeff Besos hords the income of a country?

Yes his value is bound in shares and stuff but still he is holding 185 Billion $ of value to his person.

In comparison to see how much money that is look at this website :

mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

It seems that at a certain point of wealth the rules don’t apply anymore.

Sagifurius ,

you are so close to admitting it’s imaginary

pingveno ,

He is putting that wealth to work by keeping it invested in his company instead of stuffing it under his mattress. That’s exactly how it’s supposed to work. That wealth is doing work for him and for the rest of the economy in the form of Amazon stock (setting aside various ethical qualms about Amazon). Stock is nothing more than an abstract representation of a slice of a company to allow for distributed ownership and for companies to raise capital. So instead of purchasing goods and services from a company, a shareholder provides raw capital to exchange for a slice of the company. That would make sense for a wealthier person who can only buy so many yachts and massages (goods and services), but it applies equally well to someone who is trying to sock some money away for retirement and have it grow over time.

pancake ,
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Printing money is just one way that inflation can appear. The latest trends in that respect are in fact not caused by money-printing.

Avnar ,

I can tell you want would happen. The Collaps of Capitalims. Because Capitalism needs the State to protect it with police force, Military and Bailouts. Thats the only reason States exist. The Ruleing classes need to work together to keep the rest under controll and to legitamise themselfes with Laws. States are always a tool of one class to rule over the others. They will never change in that regard.

Omega_Haxors , (edited ) to programmerhumor in Floating-point arithmetic

The funniest thing about NaNs is that they’re actually coded so you can see what caused it if you look at the binary. Only problem is; due to the nature of NaNs, that code is almost always going to resolve to “tried to perform arithmetic on a NaN”

There are also coded NaNs which are defined and sometimes useful, such as +/-INF, MAX, MIN (epsilon), and Imaginary

dan , (edited ) to programmerhumor in Floating-point arithmetic
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Also applies to nulls in SQL queries.

It’s not fun tracing where nulls are coming from when dealing with a 1500 line data warehouse pipeline query that aggregates 20 different tables.

Daft_ish , to memes in WHAT IF...?

OR ELSE…!

You’ll be happy with what you got.

affiliate , to programmerhumor in Floating-point arithmetic

this is just like in regular math too. not being a number is just so fun that nobody wants to go back to being a number once they get a taste of it

boatsnhos931 , to memes in WHAT IF...?

…were you going to suggest a solution or are we going to finger our assholes all and do what ifs… what if I was a princess in faraway land? ☺️

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

I think the suggestion is “don’t make poverty wages legal”

boatsnhos931 ,

What a revolutionary idea

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

When USA introduced a minimum wage, decades ago, it was a living wage, and it ushered in a wave of advancement and prosperity.

Just bring that back.

boatsnhos931 ,

I’m down with that homie

Cowbee ,
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Maybe we should share tools, so people can’t use ownership as power to oppress others. Just a thought

boatsnhos931 ,

Thank you sir or madam. A well thought out statement.

jmankman ,

Yeah you’re right lets build more spikes and anti-human architecture in the cities, solves the homeless problem right?

boatsnhos931 ,

I mean spikes could kind of be kinky but let’s just stick with three fingers rn stepbro

deaf_fish ,

Wait I’m confused. You’re upset that somebody brought up a problem without a solution, and you’re upset about the idea of possible solutions to this problem.

Seems like you just don’t want to talk about this particular problem and have a traumatizing history of failing to convince people to not talk about it or the solutions.

Sounds like weak baby shit to me.

boatsnhos931 ,

Who’s upset?

deaf_fish ,

“are we going to finger our assholes”

Most people don’t talk like this when they are emotionally neutral. Are you telling me you’re not upset?

boatsnhos931 ,

I’m telling you I’m not upset, you just aren’t used to someone being direct and coarse. Anyone can list all the problems with the world and spend their life complaining about them. It’s just pointless unless you have ideas to help and I’ve upvoted those posters who did have ideas. Now go clean your vag out and stfu biotch ;)

deaf_fish ,

Na, you are a whiny little bitch and you know it ;)

You can dish it, but you can’t take it. You could have simply denied my claim that you aren’t interested in talking about the problem/solutions. But instead your “direct” dumb ass played the “Who’s upset?” game.

I do appreciate the willingness to hear possible solutions problem though. I think your frustrations with what ifs are valid.

Sorry about getting uppity, but your initial post sounded a lot like the kind of people who want to cause more suffering in the world by denying these problems exist. You got to put those people in their place, you know.

boatsnhos931 ,

Will you be my Valentine 😻

semperverus ,
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I honestly think you want or even need them to be upset so that your narrative can work.

I talk like they do, i can tell you that its absolutely possible to be that blunt while being emotionally neutral.

Avnar ,

Socialims

navi , to programmerhumor in Floating-point arithmetic
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NaN is such a fun floating point virus. Some really wonky gameplay after we hit NaN in a few spots.

AlmightySnoo , to programmer_humor in Floating-point arithmetic
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for the math homies, you could say that NaN is an absorbing element

Anticorp , to memes in zodiac sign

That’s like saying Huckleberry Finn doesn’t exist. Just because it’s made-up doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. It exists as a concept which billions of people understand.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

The Sun’s position on the ecliptic at the vernal equinox is not a “concept”, it’s a physical reality, recognised by the International Astronomical Union.

Anticorp ,

And the astrology signs exist as a concept as recognized by thousands of years of human history dating back to Babylonia 2 BCE. Yes we understand that they’re likely completely bogus, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t exist.

frightful_hobgoblin , (edited )

This thread is so dumb. The signs, and the Sun’s progression through them, are as real as anything else in the sky.

Danitos ,

Disagree on the semantics. Physical realities are concepts as well. “Energy”, despite being an extremely useful physical measurement, is an abstract concept. “Physical realities” and “concepts” are not mutually exclusive nor antonymous words.

In this case, the Aries/vernal point is a concept used to define coordinate systems using physical measures from Earth.

0x0 ,

Counterpoint: how can Huckleberry Finn exist if our eyes aren’t real?

Anticorp ,

Nothing is real! I’m the only sentient entity in the universe. Now stop arguing with me, me.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

Where we’re going we won’t need eyes to see.

words_number ,

You are technically correct (the best kind of correct), but the meme is funny anyway.

afraid_of_zombies ,

I think it is pretty clear in the context of the joke that they weren’t saying the concept doesn’t exist they were saying the attributes of the concept doesn’t exist.

CodexArcanum , to programmer_humor in Floating-point arithmetic

If I can’t be a number, none of you can!

(See also cascading nulls)

kubica , to programmerhumor in Floating-point arithmetic
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Fucking over-dramatic divisions by 0, sigh.

someguy3 , to memes in WHAT IF...?

It’s existed since slavery. Thinly veiled with ‘we’re an individualistic society’ and ‘pull yourself up by your bootstraps’.

FlyingSquid , to memes in zodiac sign
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Dinosaurs don’t exist?!

lugal ,

No, only ambiguous bones that could be anything and are interpreted to be dinosaurs by old earth creationists making you believe the earth is older than a millennium. Most bones are actually from giants, unicorns and centaurs depending on the color.

jaybone ,

Wait only a millennium?

Does this mean Jesus didn’t really exist and his existence is a trick by God to test our faith?

lugal ,

He lived, obviously, but some years after him were counted twice

mriormro ,
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As a zodiac sign, no they do not.

FlyingSquid ,
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Isn’t it about time we do something about that? I’m going to write to my congressman.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

But dragons do?

lugal ,

Botanically, dragons are dinosaurs but not the other way around. Most dinosaurs were not dragons.

Tikiporch ,

Botanically speaking, that’s bananas.

lugal ,

Which is my zodiac sign by the way

NutWrench , to memes in WHAT IF...?
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But what about the billionaires? Who’s helping them out, huh?

Smoogs ,

Oh how will they SURVIVE???

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