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Am I the only one preferring low quality media over high quality one?

I have a very slow Internet connection (5 Mbps down, and even less for upload). Given that, I always download movies at 720p, since they have low file size, which means I can download them more quickly. Also, I don’t notice much of a difference between 1080p and 720p. As for 4K, because I don’t have a screen that can display...

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Boycott Israel

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Came here to say it.

The heroic inventor story is archaic.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Boycott Waze, Wix, HP, Unilever (and their many subsidiaries), Cif, Coca-Cola, Colman’s, Danone, Dell, Domino’s, Elle, McDonald’s, Monster Energy drinks, Nescafé/Nestlé, Paypal, Pret-a-Manger, Reebok, Starbuck’s, Sun (the laundry detergent)

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Personally, I am excited about the field of Social Computing, it is still at its infancy and has a lot of potential. The main idea is to create alogirthms based on human interactions that solve real world problems. A few questions one may ask include: How misinformation is being spread, and what is the optimal way to fight it? How do we fight corruption and authoriative power? These questions have been approached by a lot of fields, but creating algorithms and proving their effectiveness requires a deep understanding of computer science.

I’m not a pessimistic person (I’m neutral), but the sinister implications are obvious.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

In the end, I believe the question is who is more powerful, a few people with a lot of money, or a lot of people with little money?

Coördination is easier for the former.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Marriage and sex decline when societies adopt smartphones and the digital craze.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

craft.co/waze/locations - it’s headquartered in Tel Aviv. Boycott it.

“The modern economy is very global and interconnected” is a cliché - too vague and obvious to guide action. Boycott Israeli companies. Waze is an Israeli company.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Maybe some horrible massacre happened there once, but that’s like the heart of 1948 Israel, not some illegal settlement in the West Bank.

So people reading this are aware: the boycott movement is not just about boycotting goods from the occupied territories: it’s about the whole of Israel.

frightful_hobgoblin ,
frightful_hobgoblin ,

What do you mean by physical proof?

Some history is known by digging up physical stones n bones. Some is known by digging up texts.

There are multiple texts dated to the 1st century that all corroborate the story that a person called Jesus was crucified around 33AD

en.wikipedia.org/…/Sources_for_the_historicity_of…

frightful_hobgoblin , (edited )

History is known by:

  • Archæological evidence
  • Oral interviews with eyewitnesses
  • Texts
  • Archæogenetics
  • Historical linguistics
  • Myth (euhemerism)
  • Maybe some others I’m forgetting

Dino-history isn’t comparable to tthe literate Roman period.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Which Egyptians are you referring to? We have lots of archæological proof of the Judaeans.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

The tone of this comment makes it suddenly seem like you’re not asking a question but trying tp prove a point.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

There are 20th century figures whose historicity is disputed.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

This isn’t really right. The primary texts corroborate more facts than the name: that he was put to death by the Romans for inciting disloyalty.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

There’s just no evidence

I have a pet peeve about this phrase. A) yes there is. B) that’s not the standard, e.g. it would be incorrect to say there’s no evidence aliens abduct and probe people: there are eyewitness accounts

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Evidence isn’t the standard for things existing?

Of course not. There are millions of examples of false claims for which there is more than zero evidence. e.g. I can claim I know which stocks will rise tomorrow, and point to various data of times I’ve been right. You can’t correctly say “There is zero evidence Frightful Hobgoblin is prescient about stock movements”.

There often exists evidence of two mutually incompatible propositions. This is basics.

If you want to research the historicity of Jesus it’s easily done. If you want to argue on the internet… you know what they say about that.

frightful_hobgoblin ,
frightful_hobgoblin ,

There’s a Jesus that got crucified, but no mention about him being able to perform miracles

You just 100% conceded. /thread

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Name one and I’ll disporve it.

Diarmait mac Cerbaill

frightful_hobgoblin ,

There was a Paul that lived in Midwest America Is that proof he had a big blue ox?

I do not understand.

Like, we have that elusive physical evidence that 6,000 of Sparticus’ followers were crucified…

Go on then. Show us the evidence.

There’s a pretty good chance at least one of those guys was named Jesus too mate, it was a pretty common name

Not all the texts use that name. Some say Christus or Chrestus, ha-Notzri, Yeshu, ben Stada or ben Pandera.

frightful_hobgoblin , (edited )

Right. I think we’re in agreement. There was a historical Diarmait. There was a historical Jesus. We know this from textual sources dated a little later than the historical figures.

His life was written about while it happened in the Irish Annals…

We have no Irish texts as old as Diarmait’s reign. CELT date the Orgguin trí mac Diarmata Mic Cerbaill “Created: Possibly in the Old Irish period. Date range: 700–900?” So we rely on things written 100+ years after the historical figure. And that’s referring to when it was originally written; it’s know from later transcriptions; the oldest physical Irish manuscript we have (Lebor na hUidre) is around 1100. So how do we know there was a historical Diarmait?

In the case of Yeshu the Nazarene, it’s similar, though some texts are a little nearer his historical period than in Diarmait’s case.

frightful_hobgoblin , (edited )

I get it man

You don’t

you have “faith”

I don’t.

that’s not evidence

The evidence we’re talking about is the textual references in Pliny etc.

Say we have a textual reference like this: “In the year of the consulship of Caius Vipstanus and Caius Fonteius, Nero deferred no more a long meditated crime. Length of power had matured his daring, and his passion for Poppaea daily grew more ardent.”… would you say that a person called Caius Vipstanus existed from that evidence?


I think we are in agreement on the major points:

  1. “There’s a Jesus that got crucified, but no mention about him being able to perform miracles”
  2. We know this from somewhat later annals. The texts are closer in the timeline to the historical figure than in the case of Diarmait mac Cerbaill, and are more numerous.
  3. We share a general contempt for Christians and Christianity.
frightful_hobgoblin ,

What are you driving at bringing up the semantics of ‘contemporary’??

The only time that word was used was when you said (incorrectly), “That is contemporary literary evidence of his existence.” – the annals are centuries after the 6th-century reign of Diarmait at Tara. We don’t have any 6th-century manuscripts. The situation in the Roman Empire is quite a bit better, lots of texts.

Would you say that a person called Caius Vipstanus existed because Tacitus mentioned him in his annals a few decades later? Isn’t that valid inference from the text?

frightful_hobgoblin ,

In terms of literary evidence there is exactly 1 historian who is roughly contemporary and mentions Jesus

Misinformation.

There’s Tacitus’s Annals (year 117), Josephus’ Antiquities of the Jews (93-94), Mara bar Serapion’s letter to his son.

Seutonius (Lives of the Twelve Cæsars) and Pliny wrote about the conflict between the Romans and the followers of Christ (or Chrestus) around that era.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

There were a lot of people that shared that name, and a lot of people were crucified at that time.

That implies each source says: “A man called Jesus was crucified”. The article you provided (if you read it) should have told you otherwise.

  • Flavius Josephus: Antiquities of the Jews, year 93-94: “About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. He was the Christ. And when, upon the accusation of the principal men among us, Pilate had condemned him to a cross, those who had first come to love him did not cease. He appeared to them spending a third day restored to life, for the prophets of God had foretold these things and a thousand other marvels about him. And the tribe of the Christians, so called after him, has still to this day not disappeared.”
  • Tacitus’s Annals, year 117: Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus
frightful_hobgoblin ,

A literature search. The web is full of rubbish.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

They very likely was someone named Jesus, because there were many people with that name.

The second one doesn’t use that name. Read the sources.

There’s 0 evidence or recorded documentation that a resurrection ever happened. That’s the big one.

Well of course, but that’s common sense. Dead people stay dead as a rule.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

There’s 0 evidence or recorded documentation that a resurrection ever happened. That’s the big one.

The question in question was “Is there any real physical proof that Jesus christ ever existed?”

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Well that’s an entirely different question. Entirely different field.

“the son of God, who was crucified and rose again on the third day” is for silly Christians.

The question under discussion here is about Roman-era history.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

The title of this post is asking about “Jesus Christ,” which we all know to mean the son of God and the guy that resurrected after 3 days.

lol no… this thread is not talking about anything like that hahaha. Read it.

Obviously people don’t come back from the dead or transform into cheddar cheese; we don’t need historical research to tell us that.

His given name was יֵשׁוּעַ‎ or Yeshua, which is Jesus in one speech-type, عيسى (ʿIsà) in another, as well as a lot of other variants.

‘Christus’ in Latin seems to refer to the same person; Tacitus wrote “called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus”

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Agreed.

What does the world think of India?

I am an Indian and I have noticed that Indians are way too proud of their country for some reason and at the same time lack any civic sense towards it, they are extremely loud and extremely proud. We feel like the world revolves around India and our culture is superior to that of others. Also, a considerable chunk of the...

frightful_hobgoblin ,

It’s one of the World’s Great Civilizations, rather than just a country like Ireland is, it’s got more historical importance and influence.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

I wonder in what ways does India believe they are the world leader of anything? India is just another country America outsources things to.

Haha the exact opposite of the comment I posted. America is not the centre of the world.

frightful_hobgoblin , (edited )
frightful_hobgoblin ,

First thoughts are that it’s a massive country that’s heavily polluted and kinda obsessed with making money without much care for how they do it

This is just business in general; it’s not peculiar to one nation.

such as how much of the world is making sacrifices to stop buying gas from Russia but India’s just undermining their good intentions for profit.

Why do you think the few countries that are stopping buying Russian gas are doing it? Coz it sounds like you’re saying they’re doing it out of moral reasons, which isn’t very plausible.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

It was a talking point long before that, e.g. the 2018 article I posted

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Most countries are just countries. A few are major global influences.

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Cracking goal against Ukraine just now mate

frightful_hobgoblin ,

What are you saying? That Ukraine is a stronger military force than all Russia?

frightful_hobgoblin ,

The US violated the first 2 points of the Budapest memorandum

What points were these?

frightful_hobgoblin ,

That’s cheating!

When you subsidise things you’re cheating because it’s not the pure and honest Free Market

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