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JCPhoenix , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.
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That’s a bot, right? That can’t be real.

I’ve met plenty of idiots. Some days, I’m probably one of them. But I don’t think I’ve ever come across someone who’s pro anti-piracy. Usually people are just neutral about it. Even the most law-abiding people I know, when I’ve told them I can download movies for free, are like “Oh, are you able to get this movie for me? Thanks!”

PaX , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.
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applepie ,

I am with this person

Fuck_u_spez_ ,

I’m pretty sure that’s actually a fish.

RiikkaTheIcePrincess , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.
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Almost instinctively downvoted after reading what’s gotta be a bot post or a bad joke. Gross.

Facky , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.

This is either bait or an incredible bit.

Wootz , to memes in Israel gotta go

No.

Netanyahu gotta go. Don’t condemn the population of a country because of the actions of its leader.

Confidant6198 OP ,

Israel is a settler colony and an ethno state. It doesn’t have a “population”, but a settler regime.

sailingbythelee , (edited )

This comment is so wrong. You are dehumanizing Jews and condemning an entire country as illegitimate.

Confidant6198 OP ,

I don’t care about the religion of the oppressors and settlers. Israelis are oppressor and settlers who are living in stolen Palestinian land. Israel is an illegitimate settler colony that the UN has condemned since its inception and creation by antisemites who believed that Jews had no place in Europe and wanted to get rid of them. The majority of Jews condemn Israel. Israelis do no represent Jews and thinking so is antisemitic.

volvoxvsmarla ,

So, first of all - I basically agree with you and will be playing devil’s advocate a little bit here. But some things I want to point out:

The majority of Jews condemn Israel. Israelis do no represent Jews and thinking so is antisemitic.

Definitely not all Jews or Israelis support the Israeli government as it is. But over 40% of Jews in the world live in Israel, which makes it not the majority, but a very big chunk of Jews. While they might condemn the current government, it is difficult to argue that they condemn the idea of Israel when they are living there. However, a second point follows right from here:

Israelis are oppressor and settlers who are living in stolen Palestinian land. Israel is an illegitimate settler colony that the UN has condemned since its inception and creation

Yes. But also it was created a long time ago. Not too long ago, but long enough so that there are generations of people who have been born into this state as innocent people.

Basically, I dislike the idea of how Israel was created and claiming some birthright to return to a land. Depending on how far you want to go you can always find different peoples living in any region. No one would reasonably argue that we should evacuate Manhattan and return it to Native Americans. And this analogy works in both ways: evacuate Israel to give the land back to Palestine as well as evacuating the region of Palestinians to create Israel. Shlomo Sand once said he is a post zionist because the mess has already been created, maybe that is the take I most agree with, although really, there is no fair or “right” solution to this. Which is why it makes this conflict so complicated and frustrating.

Confidant6198 OP ,

The fair and right solution is to give the land to the people who have been living there for thousands of years and let them decide what to do. The West has no right to tell them what to do after all it has giving them is colonialism (UK) after colonialism (USA and Israel) . It is as simple as that.

And many people want also to give the Americas back to the natives who have been living there for tens of thousands of years. However, this is a more difficult endeavor. Israel is the first one that needs to be abolished.

volvoxvsmarla ,

I don’t think this is what you mean, but it sounds a lot like you want to replace one ethno state with another ethno state by pushing out all the Jews that have migrated to Israel during the last 80ish years as well as their descendants.

I doubt this is what you would want, but I just want to point this out, because it sounds dangerous and might be taken like this.

My guess is that you, just as most people, would not want the “migrants” displaced, but not in power and especially not suppressing the rights and targeting the people who lived there and are still living there. We all basically want them to be a big happy secular family who don’t care about each other’s background and see the person. (Which is the big problem because this family hates one another.) Yes, a lot of Israel’s population has come to Israel somewhat unlawfully, but again: the mess has already been created. Telling a 17 year old whose grandparents migrated Israel from Hungary to please fuck off and go back to Hungary would be not more rightful than displacing Palestinians back in 1948.

Confidant6198 OP ,

Palestine has always been a multi-cultural and multi-ethnic place, so no, it never was and will never be an ethno state. Also, I cannot make decisions for what the Palestinians decide to do with the settlers, but they have in the past given asylum to the Jews who faced persecution in Europe. There has always been Jews living in Palestine. Israel should be abolished and whoever wants to be part of Palestine can go through the nationalization process. Westerners have no right to dictate how the Palestinians handle the settler-colonial problem, that is for the native people to decide, and they have that right given to them by international law. This is the right of self determination.

Belastend ,

If your solution to ethnic cleansing is ethnic cleansing, that solution might suck.

LaLuzDelSol ,

You got a source for “the majority of Jews condemn Israel”? Idk what that means but Im sure it doesn’t mean “the majority of Jews think Isreal has to go”

davel ,
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Netanyahu will just be replaced with another genocider in a long line of genociders, stretching back to the Nakba. If you try letting up on the genociding like Yitzhak Rabin, you’ll just get whacked and replaced.

BluJay320 ,
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Israel exists as a terrorist state residing on stolen land.

Condemning the state’s existence isn’t condemnation of its citizens any more than condemning Amazon is condemning all Amazon employees.

Israel needs to go.

31337 ,

I hoping the OP means the state of Israel “has to go,” and not necessarily the population. I.e. a “one-state solution.”

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.
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“If I have to be miserable, so does everyone else.”

Yup, that’s the kind of mindset a lot of these kinds of people have.

NetherFalcon , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.
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This has to be bait lmao

haui_lemmy ,

Absolutely. Either that or the person was literally born yesterday.

NetherFalcon ,
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fr, i’ll stick with the former tbh

catloaf , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.

The great thing about the Internet is that it lets everyone spout off about things they know nothing about.

Zozano , (edited ) to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.

Back when I was maybe seven years old I went to this kids birthday party. I got him an ant farm with tubes.

Later on when all the kids were playing together in his room without adults, he pulled the roll of clear plastic tubing out of ant farm box, he shoved one end up his ass and then started sucking on the other end.

It’s nice to know that he is still alive and tweeting.

Vent ,

I’m having a hard time envisioning the flexibility required to make that work. It couldn’t have been both at the ends at the same time? Also, did this kid just get naked in front of everyone at their party? To each their own, I guess.

Excrubulent ,
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It’s his party and he’ll strip if he wants to.

CCF_100 ,

Long flexible tube

Zozano ,

The clear plastic tubing was packaged in a roll, to be cut at whatever length the ant farmer wanted, so it was long enough to do standing up.

He didn’t get naked, just put his hand down his pants. It was evident that he placed it either on his butthole, or up it, based on the effort he was taking.

Vent ,

Ah, that makes sense. I was thinking more like a mini-m&m tube.

ilco , to memes in Music from the browser

Plottwist. Not shure where/tab the hub intro is coming

DmMacniel , to memes in Israel gotta go

Vatican City is sweating…

jaspersgroove , (edited )

Along with basically every Asian and middle eastern country, several European and African countries, and a few South American countries. There are a lot of ethnostates in the world.

In fact, I’d say most countries outside of the EU/the anglosphere are a lot closer to being ethnostates than they are to being any sort of cosmopolitan melting pot.

But most of them have been that way for a long time so people just accept it.

Microw ,

Yeah there are a lot of ethnocracies. Turkey being one of the most obvious examples. Even within the EU you have countries like Latvia or Estonia who have been labelled that in the past.

trashgirlfriend ,

An ethnostate isn’t just a country with a majority ethnic group.

It has to explicitly give legal preference to one group over another.

jaspersgroove ,

I’m well aware, and stand by my original comment.

Thief_of_Crows ,

Very few countries, if any, give legal preferance to one ethnicity except for israel. China is almsot entirely chinese people, but if a white person moves there they are not discriminated against by the government.

FeelzGoodMan420 , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.

OP, I hope you weren’t dumb enough to think that this was a serious comment…

mp3 ,
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With the state of humanity it’s hard to tell.

darreninthenet ,
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Poe’s Law still alive and kicking

AOCapitulator ,
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Its not dumb to misread something or misinterpret its tone or intention, dickwad

AOCapitulator ,
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This comment was calling out the person I replied to for being ableist, thanks for removing it because I was slightly rude about standing up for myself

Worx , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.

In case anyone actually wants to know a couple of reasons

A) It’s not fair that some people pay and some don’t. (Of course it’s also not fair that some can afford $70 on a video game and some struggle to buy food)

B) If everyone would pay then we’d all only have to pay $50 each, lowering the price for those that are paying $70 at the moment. (Whether developers would lower prices or just make more money is another question)

Zorque ,

So self-delusion?

Riven ,

They’ll literally never lower prices. Look at what prices for everything are right now. Their excuse was that covid was driving up prices, now that covid is over they realized they could charge more so here we are.

DudeDudenson ,

750$ worth of dlcs that should had been features from the start anyone?

AstralPath ,

Naïveté. Its not devs that set the price. Publishers do not have your best interests in mind. They will always choose to make more money. They don’t give a fuck about literally anything else.

The prices will never be lower. Purchasing no longer grants ownership. This is why piracy is justified in a lot of cases.

Support devs that respect the community. Steal from those that don’t. Or even better, don’t play games whose publishers treat the community like shit.

Rentlar ,

Thanks for trying to bring an alternative perspective to the table.

Neither argument is very compelling. A) is like “if I can’t have nice things, no one can”, and think about those arguments against loan forgiveness or healthcare. B) is wishful thinking game companies will charge what people are willing to pay no matter how many copies are sold. And unlike physical goods, the cost per digital license doesn’t really much if more copies are sold so expected sales volume doesn’t affect costs much in that sense. Piracy itself also doesn’t incur any cost (other than mythical lost sales), while Denuvo and other anti circumvention technology does.

ADonkeyBrainedFog , to memes in Pov: You criticized the first Crusade

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