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Octopus1348 , to memes in Music from the browser
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

I am listening to music while reading this.

colonelp4nic , to memes in Israel gotta go

imo, this is the line where it starts bleeding over from anti-zionism to anti-jewish. Does Netanyahu need to go? Yes, absolutely. Does most of the current government need to go? Yeah, them too. But saying that the entire country has to go?? Where do all those Israeli civilians go? Do they get the same treatment as the Palestinians because they “deserve it”? Obviously not, because that treatment is exactly what so many people are protesting against. It’s the Israeli government that needs to go.

grte ,

Strange take. Presumably if Israel was replaced with a non-ethnostate, Jewish citizens of that state would get the same rights and treatment as every other citizen.

alvvayson ,

Exactly.

If the USA tried to again be a White/European ethnostate and allow anyone with Caucasian heritage to immigrate and barred everyone else from immigrating, then no one today would accept that.

And if they went full on apartheid and started putting natives and minorities in locked down ever-shrinking reservations, people would really lose their shit.

When white nationalists try to advocate for such policies, they are rightfully criticized for being racist.

I can never understand why Israel gets special treatment in that regard.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Native Americans are still getting the shaft, so the US is still a settler-colonial state. It’s also the sole global neocolonial empire*, and Israel is its unsinkable aircraft carrier in West Asia. As Biden has said for decades, “Were there not an Israel, the United States of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interest in the region.

*It’s funny how NATOpedia tries to project debt-trap diplomacy onto China. The US has over 750 foreign bases around the world, while China has one anti-piracy port in Djibouti.

velox_vulnus , (edited )

The USA is a settler state, tf are you talking about mate? Or does it require someone from a ex-colony to explain you the what’s and how’s?

  • Ecocide? Very much visible, many lakes and forests have been destroyed and polluted, lands have been turned into concrete jungle of highways.
  • Linguicide? Obviously, no one speaks and practices the language and culture of the native Americans in their own land. Can you? No, English is not their language.
  • Apartheid? Areas where the native Americans live are very underdeveloped. Their right to vote is suppressed. Access to healthcare is abysmal. Isn’t that apartheid?
  • Poverty? Yes, the Native American is the most impoverished groups in the USA.
  • Political representation? Almost nonexistent compared to other groups. Name a few popular native American politician, I’ll wait.
  • Right to self-determination? Most of their lands are under the control of imperialist white men and their crony capitalist buddies.

The USA is the most unhinged form of evolutionary neo-colonialist project, a produced of primitive capitalism gone rogue and rabid, mimicking the “success” of the East India companies by colonizer European states. Death to imperialism, death to America.

Microw ,

But literally no one with power in the current situation wants a non-ethnostate.

Guydht ,

Tell that to 1930s european jews Or 1950s arab jews

People just hate jews, man.

Confidant6198 OP ,

This is a Hasbara take on things. The white people from South Africa didn’t disappeared after the apartheid state got dissolved. There were Jewish people in Palestine before Israel was established. Palestinian people have never had an issue treating Jewish people as equals. The only apartheid state in the region has always been Israel.

gedaliyah ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

This is a revisionist view that requires ignoring a lot of historical facts. Almost a million Jews were expelled from MENA countries in the 20th century, many of whom survived only by escaping to Israel. The Palestinian Authoriry has never accepted any status for Jews. Christians, Muslims, Druze, yes, but no Jews.

Meanwhile, there are about 2 million Arab citizens (mostly Muslim) of Israel who are entitled to equal rights, including government subsidized Churches and Mosques.

Laser ,

Meanwhile, there are about 2 million Arab citizens (mostly Muslim) of Israel who are entitled to equal rights, including government subsidized Churches and Mosques.

Plus Arabic being an official language, same status as Hebrew.

People calling it an ethnostate have never been there or arguing in bad faith. It’s obvious.

Not that any of this has to do with the current atrocities in any way. But some people can’t help themselves but to paint the country in a bad way. Which is kind of some because that’s super easy right now. Guess some people just want to go the extra mile.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

This is horseshit. Regardless of whatever it might say on paper, the indigenous peoples obviously don’t have equal rights with the Western settlers, and the indigenous Arabic language obviously doesn’t have equal standing with the newly-resurrected Hebrew. In practice not even the indigenous Jews have equal rights with the Western settlers, nor do the Ethiopian settlers.

MysticKetchup ,

Being entitled to equal rights doesn’t mean they actually get them. It also doesn’t account for the fact that many Palestinians are denied citizenship or remain in occupied territories controlled by Israel and explicitly not guaranteed equal rights

The comprehensive report, Israel’s Apartheid against Palestinians: Cruel System of Domination and Crime against Humanity, sets out how massive seizures of Palestinian land and property, unlawful killings, forcible transfer, drastic movement restrictions, and the denial of nationality and citizenship to Palestinians are all components of a system which amounts to apartheid under international law. This system is maintained by violations which Amnesty International found to constitute apartheid as a crime against humanity, as defined in the Rome Statute and Apartheid Convention.

source

nevemsenki ,

The white people didn’t disappear alltogether, but a lot of them did emigrate. Jewish people are kind of unique in the way that they face hostility everywhere outside Israel, so that’s not really an option for them.

Confidant6198 OP ,

This is not true. Many of them have emigrated back to their country of origin since October 7th, 2023. Many of them have more than one citizenship and were not even born in Israel, and many of them are new converts. The IOF has been enlisting new converts like there is no tomorrow from all over the world since October 7th. The ones who have no place to go are the Palestinians who are also currently being genocide.

daris , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.

lol

Trincapinones , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.

The “it’s not fair we pay for these games for them to then be pirated” says it all, it’s not about the company becoming bankrupt because of piracy, it’s because they don’t want to feel bad once they have been scammed with a half made game that others have gotten for free. Because a half made game should be worthless

Enkers ,

What a strange mentality. When I pay for things I want, I’m generally happy to support the creator. If others can’t, why would I be upset if they get the product for free? It means more people can also enjoy the thing I like.

It’s such a crab bucket mentality, I couldn’t imagine living life being constantly bitter.

Rivalarrival ,

I can think of a couple ways this post makes sense. For example, if Denuvo paid this commenter to make this post.

jabathekek ,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

That makes a lot of sense actually. In fact I wouldn’t doubt this to be some scummy social engineering firm.

TheGalacticVoid ,

They’re probably just a kid who can’t easily afford games.

Rivalarrival ,

Can’t tell if you’re drinking the Kool aid… Or serving.

dalekcaan ,

Some people are really weird when it comes to things being “fair.” I forget the details but I remember a study where given the option of getting $100 and a stranger getting $200, a good chunk of people would rather neither of them get anything.

groet ,

There is a famous experiment , where a person gets 100$, and have to offer an arbitrary percentage of that to a stranger. If the stranger declines, both get nothing.

From the strangers perspective, getting offered even 1$ is a win, but the vast majority rejected anything below 30%

Nithanim ,

I certainly don’t care if others get the game other ways (except unauthorized key stores). I am just happy that good games get their recognition and give people joy. I am in the fortunate situation that I am able to just buy all games I want. Heck, I even bought games for friends who were unsure or even dismissive “if it would be worth it”. I also buy/bought games that I never played or won’t play but watched streamers play it.

Infynis , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.
@Infynis@midwest.social avatar

Corporate narks are the worst kind

Icalasari , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.

And then piracy will be the only way to play as people do NOT like to deal with Denuvo (and for good reason)

EstraDoll , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.
@EstraDoll@hexbear.net avatar

this person was the kid back in middle school who reminded the teacher about the homework

paskalivichi ,

Hall monitor type for fucking sure

UnRelatedBurner ,

I love this anology so much. It’s something everyone can relate to. It’s something so incredibly low and despised that you can’t understand why it exists, but it’s also so very common.

BlueMagma ,

Wrong, I was that kid and I hate denuvo just like everybody else.

Also I don’t think it works as an analogy, the kid reminding the teacher about homework does it because he likes school, and learning, he does it for himself and everybody else, he never imagine other kids would not like it. This guy doesn’t do this for himself or others, he does this out of spite of others, to punish people, he doesn’t gain anything.

jjlinux ,
@jjlinux@lemmy.ml avatar

I beg to differ. We made pretty sure that kid had absolutely no doubt that we did not want homework. If it was different for you, there must have been something huge at that school keeping you from getting a whooping every other day.

VirtualOdour ,

That’s what the commentor thinks too, he imagines all the good people who want a fair and sane world will cheer him on and the nasty criminals to slink off Into the night mubling how they’d have got away with it if it weren’t for that nobel hero saving the day for the good capitalist folk and their billionaire corporations.

DoctorButts ,

People downvoting your comment are the kids back in middle school who reminded the teacher about the homework

BlueMagma ,

Why would they ? I was that kid and I still upvoted his comment, I don’t use downvote as a disagree/punish button, I only use it for agressive/uninteresting comment. I think we should upvote any comment that create interesting discussion, even if we disagree with the core message.

DoctorButts ,

I was just making a joke. I actually wrote this comment before I read your other comment lol.

jjlinux ,
@jjlinux@lemmy.ml avatar

Those boot lickers 😩

Glide , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.

“Fuck them, I’ve got mine” pro-capitalist mindset in the wild.

misk , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.
@misk@sopuli.xyz avatar

If you ride a bus without a ticket, other passengers will have to pay more because upkeep and salaries are more or less a fixed cost. That is if you can afford the ticket, it’s irrelevant otherwise. Also depends on profit margins but I think it explains the point.

r00ty Admin ,
r00ty avatar

If no-one pirated any Sony game do you think they would.

A) Lower the price of the game to maintain their existing profit margin.
B) Set a lower price that increases their margin.
C) Keep the higher price and just make a fuck ton more money.

HackerJoe ,

Not necessarily. The bus will still operate, if you ride on it or not. The cost is the same.
If say 20% of passengers don’t pay and you have to get more buses and drivers because of that. Then it’ll affect prices.

Just as pirating Netflix movies without ever having the intention of paying for them is the same outcome as not watching them.
Maybe worse for Netflix since you won’t tell your friends about it. There are studies that prove this effect.

SinAdjetivos ,

Except that’s not even how most bus systems work because most of them are majority funded by taxes with fares originally meant to serve as a stopgap but then slowly converted into a profit engine (usually after privitization). Fares are a way to gatekeep a service which your taxes already pay for, which I would argue, is by itself a form of theft.

As an example check out the latest MTA report only 26% of funding comes from fares, and that ones a bit in the higher end from what I’ve seen (NYC public transit, picked as the example a it’s recently been in the news for issues with fare evasion)

All that aside, it’s also worth noting that fare increases are extremely unpopular and it’s not that easy to increase them without potential serious backlash (ie the mass protests in Chile a few years back that were in part set off by the fare hikes.)

misk ,
@misk@sopuli.xyz avatar

I was merely explaining how one comes to this line of thinking which is what OP was asking about. I also mentioned some holes in this logic so I think it’s clear it’s not an opinion I actually hold.

kbal , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.
@kbal@fedia.io avatar

As well as Denuvo please also make it rely on Windows-only bugs so that we can be extra sure that those dirty Linux users are kept away, and it's not fair that foreigners get to enjoy things in their own language so make sure there's no localization for other countries. And I'd rather not have to know that disabled people can also play so make sure there's none of that "accessibility" crap in there slowing things down. And I heard that telemetry makes everything better so please make sure it records everything we do and reports it all back to headquarters, that really makes games better. Also it'd be nice if there were more ads to keep us entertained while it loads. Okay thanks. You guys are doing a great job. — Signed, a perfectly normal user

Kraiden ,

signed, Hugh Mann

HackerJoe ,

Sadly Denuvo runs pretty well on Wine nowadays. Otherwise Steamdeck users might have had some voice in opposing it.

CutestFox ,

You need a custom wine (GE-Proton works according to searching some denuvo titles on protondb)

HouseWolf , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.

‘It’s not fair that we keep getting scammed and others don’t’

So just don’t give them money next time?

‘LALALALA I can’t hear you, it’s your fault not mine LALALALA’

BioDriver , (edited ) to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.
@BioDriver@beehaw.org avatar

Gabe Newell: “We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate’s service is more valuable.”

DudeDudenson ,

Steam pulled regional pricing from my country not so long ago. You bet your ass sales went way down and people who were buying games because it was easier just went back to pirating them at that point.

Like you expect someone in south America who makes a tenth of what someone in the US makes to pay the same prices (actually more than the same since this country has like 70% tax on “imported” digital services), get real

Linnce ,
@Linnce@lemmy.ml avatar

I wish the steam deck was available in my country

neo , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.
@neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space avatar

“Please use your boot to step on me harder, daddy corpo!”

jabathekek ,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

stop making it sound so hawt

kugmo , to piracy in I'll never understand this kind of mindset.
@kugmo@sh.itjust.works avatar

Had to look up whatever ‘Legends online’ was and it turns out its a tacked on multiplayer mode for Ghost of Tsushima. Who the fuck plays garbage multiplayer like that and who in their right minds pays for PS plus to play that?

halvar , to memes in Israel gotta go

Nuh-uh. Organic/long established ethnostates may be frowned upon, but if they close off their borders to preserve their identity, that’s their right, since I belive in the self-determination of peoples.

It is arguable though, whether these even exist right now, or are there only nation-states and some wannabe ethnostates.

Trying to violently establish an ethnostate is of course something I cannot agree with.

Viking_Hippie ,

close off their borders to preserve their identity

If your ethnicity is your identity, you’re by definition a xenophobic bigot.

since I belive in the self-determination of peoples.

Except for people who want to move to the ethnostates you support, of course 🙄

Trying to violently establish an ethnostate is of course something I cannot agree with.

You literally can’t establish and maintain an ethnostate without the use of a lot of violence and oppression against people of other ethnicities. That’s just how the world works.

halvar ,
  1. Ethnicity totally can be part of an identity, but that doesn’t mean you have to hate anyone.
  2. Don’t misunderstand “closing off borders”. Making the people stay is not okay. Not letting the people that left back is also not okay. Not letting in a different ethnicity? Arguably racist, but I wouldn’t count not letting them into your country as oppression. I’m a christian, so I can’t visit Mecca, yet I don’t feel oppressed.
  3. That’s why I said “long established” and that’s why I pointed out that those aren’t many. I don’t think the violence you’d have to use to establish an ethnostate is in any way acceptable. If the ethnostate already stands though, you may use certain tools to preserve it, which are not many and are usually “not enough”.

My take wasn’t that ethnostates are good, but that they are not inherently bad either, it’s just the tools usually used to establish and preserve them that we must condemn.

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