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BirdyBoogleBop , to memes in Enlightened Centrism

Self proclaimed centrists love Trump.

robinnn ,
@robinnn@hexbear.net avatar

Democrats love Trump. Hillary Clinton and the DNC wanted him in power so they could have (what they thought was) an easier time winning, and instead of realizing this wasn’t a good plan after it didn’t work, Democrats have continued to fund Trump-supporters in elections.

The state is forcing someone to pick the regular boot or else they’ll get the poison-tipped spiked boot, one on each foot, while making the person think it’s their own idea to pick the normal one (so pragmatic!).

yogthos OP , to memes in Enlightened Centrism
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

truth hurts I see

Godric , to memes in Know the difference.

People fleeing communist countries en mass sure is a mystery. Who could ever know why they built the Berlin Wall or why Cuban families risk their children on rafts to get to a capitalist country

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

You are aware that the vast majority of undocumented immigrants are coming to America from other capitalist countries right?

summerof69 , (edited )

This reply perfectly highlights why people who have issues with basic logic support communism.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

What issues with basic logic do people who support Communism have in common?

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

What issues with basic logic do supporters of Communism have?

Acinonyx ,

still

>many cases of people fleeing from communist countries to capitalist ones

>far less cases of people fleeing from capitalist countries to live under communism

most people don’t want communism, that’s why there are no democratic elections in communist countries and wrongthink is persecuted

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Under communism wrongthink is wanting to profit off the labor of others.

Acinonyx ,

no, under communism being gay is wrongthink, apparently

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Lmao no it isnt.

Acinonyx ,

didn’t the USSR prosecute gays?

>inb4 “b-but it wasn’t REAL communism, akshually”

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

So did the United States untill very recently, what is your point? Advocating for Communism isnt Advocating for a return of the USSR you absolute ham sandwich.

TokenBoomer ,

This might help to explain the siege mentality of socialism.

corsicanguppy ,

the Berlin Wall

That was fascism.

or why Cuban families

That’s kleptocracy.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

People move to areas with better material conditions. Assuming that is the fault of Socialism and not of countries being in different stages of development is immaterial and ignores the trajectory of nations, as well as the geopolitical landscape.

For example, in the GDR, education was high quality and free, but wages were lower than in West Germany. Many highly educated people in GDR attempted to leverage their free education for higher wages in the West.

As for Cuba, people fleeing are typically the people prosecuted during the revolution, ie plantation owners. People still flee from less developed to more developed countries, which is why people flee from Capitalist states to other Capitalist states.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Living conditions for the majority of the population in Cuba are far better than in any capitalist Latin American country. This is despite the brutal blockade on Cuba by the burger empire. Please go make a clown of yourself elsewhere.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

im on latin america and despite being bad over here, i’m a bit skeptical on this one. the blockade is currently making sure cuba can’t even get basic medication in sufficient quantities.

i’d say its safer to say they are much better in some aspects, the ones they can control.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

The kind of abject poverty you see in Latin American countries simply does not exist in Cuba. Everyone has access to basic necessities, education, and healthcare. Cuba has even higher life expectancy than US.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

when it comes to inequality i can agree its probably among the best, if not the best.

but despite efforts to provide it, they don’t always get basic necessities because of the embargo. there is a not insignificant amount of poverty in cuba too.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Of course, the blockade is doing incredible amounts of harm. My point is that even despite that, Cuba manages to do a better job ensuring a minimal standard of living than capitalist countries in Latin America. What this shows is that communism performs better under extreme stress than capitalism does under best conditions.

mcforest , to linux_gaming in Doing my part

This low effort content is the 2nd most upvoted post in this sub in the last month?

Mark12870 ,

I was thinking exactly the same thing. A ton of upvotes just for a screenshot of Steam Survey window. 🥴

Icr8tdThis4ccToWarn ,

I say this “low effort” content encompasses more meaning than what your mind could understand at the moment of your reply or, previously, at the flash of a moment that has passed when you skimmed through it. BUT I see where you’re coming from (sorry about that).

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Nope.

Suppoze ,
@Suppoze@beehaw.org avatar

You’re criticising the OP for low effort, but also the community for high interest. What are you trying to say really?

mcforest ,

I actually criticize the community’s high interest in a screenshot for a stupid hardware survey.

mudle OP ,
@mudle@lemmy.ml avatar

I take pride in being able to represent Linux through a “stupid hardware survey.”

iiGxC , to memes in Enlightened Centrism

If one boot has poison tipped cleats and the other doesn’t, and you can choose between the two without impeding other efforts to get rid of the boots altogether, yeah 🤷

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

wow what a brilliant analogy that has zero relation to what’s actually happening

iiGxC ,

Thank you 😊

pineapplelover , to linux_gaming in Doing my part

One of the few corporations (along with kde and Mozilla) I would happily share by data to

bjoern_tantau , to linux_gaming in Doing my part
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I’m waiting for the survey to reach me on my Steam Deck running OpenSUSE. I wonder if they keep a special eye on Decks not running SteamOS.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

How is it? I use openSUSE on everything (desktop, laptop, NAS, VPS), except my Steam Deck.

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

A little bit janky if I’m being honest, but I still prefer it. Like, I use four different types of on screen keyboard (Steam’s for everyday stuff, Onboard when I need special keys, Maliit on the lock screen, unl0kr (which cannot handle the Deck’s screen rotation yet) to decrypt the drive on boot).

For the installation I had to use the Gnome live image because it was the only one with a usable keyboard. So I guess that makes five different keyboards I used.

I had to do a lot of customisation to get it to a state I’m comfortable with. But on the plus side I don’t have to fight against the system to do it. My main motivation was to get encryption working.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Cool, if you have a writeup about it, I’d love to give it a read. So the challenges you had, solutions you came up with, and ergonomics vs original SteamOS.

I don’t have any complaints right now, but I like openSUSE and sometimes like to tinker. As long as the controller works well through Steam, I’d probably keep it.

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I’ve recently made two posts about the keyboards and for the encryption there’s a bug report about unl0kr in Bazzite where I added a comment. Unfortunately I don’t have the energy for a more detailed writeup, but it should be enough to get you started.

The controller works out of the box as a mouse. You just need to have an on screen keyboard installed (or a real one attached via USB) to handle everything else. If you like Gnome that should actually work better out of the box than KDE.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I don’t mind either, though I have a slight preference for KDE. I may just install both.

I’ll look through those posts and may just make one myself. :)

loo , to linux_gaming in Riot official response about League of Legends on Linux for Vanguard anti cheat
@loo@lemmy.world avatar

I’m dual booting windows and linux and I’m only using Windows for applications I can’t get to run on Linux. If I’m installing Vanguard on Windows, could that be a safety concern for my Linux partition? Since I have no personal data on Windows, I wouldn’t mind installing it there, as long as it’s not an issue for my linux partition

azimir , to linux in I'm back on that other OS for work

If I’m stuck on a windows machine, one of the first packages I try to install is git-scm.org’s BASH.

It’s not actually Linux, but it’s got a command line and enough programs to really help get work done.

Tenkard ,

Yes it’s awesome, I use it with Microsoft terminal for tabs + themes, thanks to that I still have to learn how to use powershell

Cwilliams ,

There’s even a portable version if you don’t have admin rights on the device

zkrzsz ,

WSL for me.

Tanoh ,

Why not just go full WSL?

azimir ,

I used WSL for a job and it worked fine. It’s kind of a weird VM that doesn’t really integrate with the host OS fully, but it works for many use cases.

Git BASH has more direct system integration and hardware access than WSL, though it’s been a couple of years since I had to look at WSL at all. Hopefully they’ve improved the integration over time.

SouthEndSunset , to memes in Know the difference.

Do the people saying that communism is bad think capitalism is good?

lud ,

No

Gigan ,
@Gigan@lemmy.world avatar

I think capitalism is good, but not perfect. Communism is bad.

SouthEndSunset ,

Why do you think that way?

Gigan ,
@Gigan@lemmy.world avatar

I think human nature is inherently greedy and selfish, and capitalism is best equipped to use this in a way that benefits society. Workers are motivated to work harder and learn new skills to find the most rewarding job they can. Businesses are motivated to create products and run as efficiently as possible. Consumers are motivated to get as much value as the can out of their money. Everyone in the equation is acting selfishly and in their own self-interest (which I believe humans are inclined to do anyway) but when applied on a societal level, everyone benefits. However I will concede that this is a balancing act that requires some level of government regulation to maintain.

On the other hand, I think communism only works when everyone acts altruistically. Which is noble, but unrealistic.

SouthEndSunset ,

Thank you for answering. The problem with capitalism is it’s got out of control.

Gigan , (edited )
@Gigan@lemmy.world avatar

I agree. Businesses and owners have too much influence. I want more unions, trust-busting, and consumer protections. Workers seem to be organizing more at least, which is a good start.

AngryCommieKender , (edited )

Delaware gave corporations the right to vote…

apnews.com/…/local-elections-voting-corporate-ent…

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

Lol, lmao even. Capitalism rewards greed it doesn’t mitigate it. You’ve got it twisted.

Jon_Servo ,

It’s the inability to see the forest for the trees. We were raised in a capitalist economic system, as were all of our past family members. The failings of capitalism appear to be the failings of human nature. In reality, meta analysis of multiple studies on human greed show that people will be inherently more kind to each other than be cruel. Quick search will bring up many articles on these studies. Plus, exchanges in material goods within communities where money hadn’t been invented would show that people didn’t barter, they gave their goods away to their neighbors, and the good deed would be remembered and reciprocated in times of need. You can look up “Gift Economy” in Wikipedia.

Grayox OP ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

I also highly recommend reading or listening to the audiobook for The Dawn of Everything A New History of Humanity by David Graeber and David Wingrow. It is extremely interesting and eye opening.

Taleya ,

Nope.

Human nature is co-operative and altruistic, there’s evidence going back to barely recognisable AS human and it’s literally a key reason why we’re the dominant species.

Capitalism rewarding sociopaths is the outlier

jesterchen ,
@jesterchen@social.tchncs.de avatar

@Taleya Is there any scientific material on this? I've had this discussion again and again with my family, from the far side of ultimately altruistic to vastly egoistic... and if there is (hopefully unbiased) scientific material on this, we might settle this argument.

Taleya ,

off the top of my head there’s the ancient remains found multiple times of disabled and/or badly injured hominids who were treated (signs of healing) and lived long into adulthood despite requiring extensive care from others, the fact an extended childhood in our species means that our young are vulnerable for a far longer period than any other animal (a necessity since you can’t fit a fully formed adult brain through a human pelvis) and require cooperation with others to raise and continue the species, the fact we have developed specialised skillsets (that are shared between us rather than developing and being held isolate and then lost when the person who holds then dies).

When you have a group that works together go up against one that doesn’t, the former comes out on top. When this competition is for resources and survival, it becomes an evolutionary pressure.

If you do a quick googs you should find scores of whitepapers - but the egoistic argument falls flat on its face out of the gate because we have the word ‘sociopath’ and it’s not considered something to emulate. Neither is ‘egotistical’. We’ve literally got coded into our language that isolation, self-absorption and ‘self serving at the cost to others’ are bad concepts. Being a self absorbed shithead is documented as wrong as far back as our tales can possibly go.

jesterchen ,
@jesterchen@social.tchncs.de avatar

@Taleya Will traue this to start the discussion again, maybe thanks. 🙏

Taleya , (edited )

Drop this one on 'em. From a brutal dispassionate logical viewpoint there was no reason to keep this man around and alive

But they did it because they were human.

Edit: and if they argue it’s an outlier, hit them with shanidar1, burial9, the starchild

This article also points out co-operation examples that exist so fundamentally you may not even be aware of them.

jesterchen ,
@jesterchen@social.tchncs.de avatar

@Taleya 🙏

kwedd ,

See “Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution” by Kropotkin

EchoCT ,

Not going to downvote, but I do think you’re lacking quite a bit of insight into the reasons human society exists at all. Cooperation is the reason human society exists at all, so saying we’re inheritly selfish is kinda laughable in that context.

I would encourage you to look up information on dialectical Materialism and the necessity of capitalism as a stage in that dialectical.

Capitalism had a purpose, and it’s past time for us to move on.

Moxvallix ,
@Moxvallix@sopuli.xyz avatar

Explain open source, free software, linux community, lemmy / the fediverse, and many many other things not formed around profit, largely maintained by people in their free time motivated by community over profit.

People aren’t inherently greedy. People are born into a system that rewards greed, and punishes altruism. There have been many different societies with many different political and economic systems, and capitalism is a fairly new one all things considered.

Rational self interest is irrational. If only a few can succeed, chances are you fail. If everyone only looks out for themselves, then everyone fails. Humanity’s biggest strength — what set us apart from many other animals — is our ability to work together and look out for each other.

Capitalism doesn’t work, and is destroying the Earth.

Hule ,

You brought up open source and linux, but how many are maintainers vs. freeloaders?

If communism could be upheld by a select few and enjoyed endlessly by everyone… Utopia.

Moxvallix ,
@Moxvallix@sopuli.xyz avatar

Freeloaders, like large corporations taking open source and then not giving back, is yet another symptom of a system that rewards extraction and self interest.

FOSS exists despite capitalism. The fact that people are willing to work on something out of their own passion, or sense of community, directly contradicts the fundamental assertion of capitalism.

Humans are not inherently greedy.

GuyFleegman ,

Let’s concede the point: humans are inherently greedy and selfish.

But greed and selfishness are bad, right? We want less greed and selfishness in the world.

Given these two assumptions—humans are greedy, greed is bad—shouldn’t we architect society to explicitly disincentivize greed?

Uair ,
@Uair@autistics.life avatar

@GuyFleegman

Fuck that, I do not concede the point. At least, I don't concede that humans are /more/ selfish than we are compassionate. Our emotional wiring evolved for hundred-human tribes that required a lot more empathy and cooperation than competition.

You don't have to go so far as to disincentivize greed. Greed is socially useful in small doses. Adam Smith wasn't a total idiot. Just stop letting the people who shape society make it so only the greedheads survive.

GuyFleegman ,

You’re preaching to the choir. “Concede the point” is a figure of speech which means the speaker is going explore an assumption despite not believing it themselves.

My point is that the whole “capitalism is the best economic system we know about because humans are greedy” argument is sophistry. It doesn’t even make sense in the context of its own flawed premise.

yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Even if it was true that human nature was inherently greedy and selfish then it would be an argument for creating systems that discourage such behaviors. What you’re arguing is akin to saying that you should encourage a person struggling with alcoholism to drink more.

Radical_EgoCom ,
@Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social avatar

@Gigan @SouthEndSunset
Human nature is not inherently greedy and selfish because human beings possess an inherent capacity for empathy, cooperation, and solidarity, which when nurtured within equitable social structures, can create a collective ethos centered on mutual aid, communal ownership, and the pursuit of the common good, transcending the narrow confines of greed and selfishness perpetuated by systems of exploitation and inequality like capitalism.

fedwards9965 ,
@fedwards9965@mastodon.online avatar

@Gigan @SouthEndSunset

Greed, selfishness and our hyper-individualism is a product of our society, not society as a product of our nature

These sentiments are something encouraged by those in power as it is advantageous for them to have the masses in want

There are underlying instincts for survival and dominance that have manifested today as greed and selfishness, but that is something an equitable society can address given the chance

To suggest otherwise is incredibly degrading humanity

Radical_EgoCom ,
@Radical_EgoCom@mastodon.social avatar

@Gigan @SouthEndSunset
There is nothing bad about the collective ownership of the means of production. I can, however, think of many things that are bad about one person owning the entire means production despite not doing any work, which is what exists under capitalism.

MissJinx ,
@MissJinx@lemmy.world avatar

you knoe there isn’t only 2 choices right? Thay can both have good and bad sides. Maybe try some mix of it fisrt

SouthEndSunset ,

Yes. It’s just those are the two mentioned, and I’m slightly communist. So there’s some bias.

EchoCT ,

Dialectical Materialism. Right now, they are. You either work towards communism or capitalism moves towards consolidation of capital. Those are your choices.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Imma be honest chief, pulling out DiaMat with non-Marxists is going to fall on deaf ears. I agree, but something softer might work easier.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Imma be real, chief, I don’t think DiaMat is going to work on Non-marxists, even if I agree.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

also there are more than 1 proposed way to achieve communism, even though i tend to favor socialism.

TokenBoomer ,

We did that already. We could do it again.

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

thats not a mix though, it was just a bandaid over capitalism, borrowed from socialistic ideas. the capital accumulating class was never extinguished, eventually leading to the same problems today all over again.

hence why we advocate for a systemic change, if you can’t accumulate capital, you can’t buy back the system again like it is rn. this is pretty much the crux of the issue here.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

there’s capitalism and its variants (the current system), and there is anti-capitalism in various flavours. (socdem, ML, anarchism)

you can choose your favorite flavour, but its either moving towards capitalism, or moving away from it.

interdimensionalmeme ,

I would like a third pill.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

its take it or leave it i guess.

interdimensionalmeme ,

At least we’ve still got cyanide pill when red or blue doesn’t cut it.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

Feudalism?

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Traditionally the “Third Way/Position” is fascism. So, ultimately, kinda, but with race science.

billgamesh ,

fascism isn’t a third way. It’s liberalism in crisis

DragonTypeWyvern ,

I mean, it’s just literally what they call themselves. Sure, they lie or don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about, but that’s kind of their whole deal.

interdimensionalmeme ,

Power dichotomy will always slander any “third option”. They’ll even say something dumb on its face like third way is “x”. There are only two solutions, “with us” or “against us”. Anything outside these choices is literally unthinkable for the power structure. The power structure cannot imagine a future where it does not exist. If you ask the unthinkable alternative, they will default to “oh you must be one of the enemy”. We know that category well. They stand for every thing we don’t stand for.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Describe what you consider the “third way” that isn’t capitalists owning the means of production, workers owning the means, or the state owning the means.

interdimensionalmeme ,

No, I asked for a third pill. I didn’t say “take my third pill”. I also hope we can escape the narrow minded concept of a society centered on the tug of war to “own the means”.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Lol

interdimensionalmeme ,

Ok fine, 4th pill then. The nerve them ! Nazi think they own the idea of rejecting the current order and its ditect opposition.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

fascism is just extreme capitalism

goferking0 ,

Some do

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy ,

As usual the best answer lies somewhere between the two extremes

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

we tried that before though, improving things temporarily, but it will never be permanent until we extinguish the owner class.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

The trick is not falling for the lie that social democracy is meeting socialism in the middle.

Social Democracy is just liberalism with enlightened self interest. Is it better than other capitalists models?

Sure. That doesn’t make it the end goal.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

you put it in better words than i did.

OurToothbrush ,

Yes, we must have a middle ground between having parasites and not having parasites. Thank you enlightened centrist.

Darken ,
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  • SouthEndSunset ,

    Can’t we just nuke people we don’t like….like my neighbour or Elon Musk?

    LeFantome , to linux in I'm back on that other OS for work

    Pretty sure vim is available on Windows. Visual Studio Code allows vim actions.

    Can you run in a VM? Use WSL?

    Dagamant , to linux_gaming in Doing my part

    I appreciate how Valve does this. They ask, they let you know how its used, its not associated with individual accounts, you can view the info submitted before it gets submitted.

    TooLazyDidntName ,

    Good guy valve

    SuddenDownpour , to memes in Know the difference.

    I’m pretty sure the leftcommunists and anarchists and worker councils requesting for power to be really handed to the soviets which were purged by Lenin and Trotsky weren’t actually landlords. But you never know, people from .ml may think people unwilling to obey the bolsheviks get labeled landlords too.

    DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

    When your purges actually violate literally every Marxist principle and sabotage the revolution, isn’t it kind of fair to accuse Bolsheviks, or at least the leadership, of being fake communists?

    Stalin was a counterrevolutionary, die mad about it, we’re Menshevik posting in this bitch.

    OurToothbrush ,

    Yeah continue ww1, so fucking based

    When people complaining about your side latch onto factions that they know nothing about it is kinda really funny

    DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

    If you didn’t willingly ignore the sins of “your side” that’d be valid.

    Meanwhile, the only criticism you launch at the Mensheviks is… They wanted to keep fighting the imperial powers?

    Don’t get me wrong, it was just a bad decision, but it wasn’t, ya know, genociding fellow socialists.

    I’d personally criticize them for thinking they needed to follow the traditional Marxist thought that economic liberalism was a required stage on the path to socialism.

    OurToothbrush ,

    Meanwhile, the only criticism you launch at the Mensheviks is… They wanted to keep fighting the imperial powers?

    Bwahahahaha yeah that’s why Tsarist and Kerensky Russia was aligned with France and England

    Bwahahahaha

    At some point you gotta just come to the conclusion that you haven’t read enough on this topic and pick up some books instead of speaking garbage.

    Also “the only criticism” that’s the fucking big criticism that got them overthrown, which you’d fucking know if you studied history.

    DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

    The imperial powers that were direct threats to the revolution and they were already fighting, buddy, aka the Ottomans and the Germans. Hey, remind me how that worked out in the end? Did the People’s Government get a seat at Versailles? No? Had to fight a war against fucking Poland first and then get even more people killed by Germany later?

    And your argument is “the decision was unpopular,” not that it was wrong.

    You also find that they were not overthrown. Their political alliance was couped, like what happens in a “real democracy” when you push an unpopular policy. Even then, they supported the Bolsheviks anyways in the civil war.

    Generally speaking, it’s considered rude to murder all of your fellow socialists anyways if that happens.

    OurToothbrush ,

    Hey, remind me how that worked out in the end? Did the People’s Government get a seat at Versailles? No? Had to fight a war against fucking Poland first and then get even more people killed by Germany later?

    And your argument is “the decision was unpopular,” not that it was wrong.

    Wait are you out here arguing that Russia should have continue fighting ww1? Seriously? And that refusing to fight the war led to nazi Germany and their exterminationist war against the soviet union?

    Bwahahahahahaha

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    Eh, as you mentioned, it was deeply unpopular.

    But yes. It would have.

    Why would you think changing history would not change history?

    OurToothbrush ,

    But yes. It would have.

    Remember this comment so you can cringe at it when you’re less ignorant :)

    DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

    Sure bro. I’ll stop thinking “Russia having a seat at Versailles would have changed history” because it would somehow not change history, and that’s something you can objectively prove, lol.

    I’ll tell you what definitely wouldn’t have happened though.

    The repeated Bolshevik genocides of Jewish people.

    I’ll not comment on your apparent belief that Nazism was some fated historical inevitability, which sure seems like something a Nazi would believe and not a Marxist.

    OurToothbrush ,

    and that’s something you can objectively prove, lol.

    Weren’t you literally just claiming that if Russia stayed in the war the nazis wouldn’t have happened?

    Bwahahaha

    The repeated Bolshevik genocides of Jewish people.

    As someone who had jewish family which survived the holocaust, lol, wtf? The worst instance of antisemitism in the USSR was the doctor’s plot, which wasn’t a genocide.

    I’ll not comment on your apparent belief that Nazism was some fated historical inevitability, which sure seems like something a Nazi would believe and not a Marxist.

    Nazijacketing me for thinking that Russia staying in ww1 wouldn’t have stopped the rise of nazism? Wow.

    davel ,
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    When your purges actually violate literally every Marxist principle and sabotage the revolution, isn’t it kind of fair to accuse Bolsheviks, or at least the leadership, of being fake communists? Stalin was a counterrevolutionary, die mad about it, we’re Menshevik posting in this removed.

    Has this gentleman ever seen a revolution? 😂

    OurToothbrush ,

    I do not believe so, no

    SuddenDownpour ,

    I don’t think the Mensheviks were the good guys either. Mensheviks would allow a way out for the old elites to remain elites if they kept on with the times (from aristocracy to bourgeoisie), the Bolsheviks just laid the way out for new elites (party apparatus) by choosing not to empower the working class. The leninist model followed somewhat similar structures everwhere from Hungary to Vietnam, and they always ended the same way: with the party elites opening the way to privatization after one or two generational changes and the heirs of the new system realizing that they’d get more material privilege by establishing capitalism, and without an organized, conscious working class capable of stop them.

    jkrtn ,

    I agree. A viable long-term economy needs an organized working class that isn’t sleepwalking through life. Would be cool to make the economic system not inherently hierarchical also.

    Filthmontane ,

    Weird, I was under the impression that the purges happened after Lenin died. Can ghosts lead a purge?

    SuddenDownpour , (edited )

    Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror#Industrial_worke…

    Do also take a look at this: en.wikipedia.org/…/1917_Russian_Constituent_Assem…

    And this: en.wikipedia.org/…/Socialist_Revolutionary_Party

    Selected quotes:

    The SRs were agrarian socialists and supporters of a democratic socialist Russian republic. The ideological heirs of the Narodniks, the SRs won a mass following among the Russian peasantry by endorsing the overthrow of the Tsar and the redistribution of land to the peasants.

    In the election to the Russian Constituent Assembly held two weeks after the Bolsheviks took power, the party still proved to be by far the most popular party across the country, gaining 37.6% of the popular vote as opposed to the Bolsheviks’ 24%. However, the Bolsheviks disbanded the Assembly in January 1918 and after that the SR lost political significance. (…) Both wings of the SR party were ultimately suppressed by the Bolsheviks through imprisoning some of its leaders and forcing others to emigrate.

    Following Lenin’s instructions, a trial of SRs was held in Moscow in 1922, which led to protests by Eugene V. Debs, Karl Kautsky, and Albert Einstein among others. Most of the defendants were found guilty, but they did not plead guilty like the defendants in the later show trials in the Soviet Union in the late 1920s and the 1930s.

    Note that these guys won the elections because they were the actually existing socialist movement in Russia and had been for decades. Lenin only led the government instead of them because he had the organization to overthrow the Mensheviks, not because the Bolsheviks were a better representative of socialism.

    Filthmontane ,

    That’s not true at all. The Mensheviks wanted to cooperate with the bourgeoisie and were therefore a bad representation of socialism. Lenin formed the Bolsheviks because the Mensheviks were being stupid. The country was also fractured after the revolution and many groups of counter-revolutionary groups were trying to overthrow the barely formed government. Meanwhile famines were ravaging the country. Understanding the historical context of Russia in 1917 and the economic struggles the people were dealing with is very important to understanding why things happened the way they did. Looking at the aftermath of a revolution where everyone is vying for power and killing each other doesn’t automatically make the winner of that power grab the bad guys.

    SuddenDownpour ,

    How about you read anything of what I’ve sent you and you realize that I’m not talking about the Mensheviks

    Filthmontane ,

    It was many factions. I’m just saying all of them were trying to have third revolutions while the people starved to death. At some point, revolutions end with a unifying government that isn’t trying to murder each other. Lenin was not the villain you’re painting him to be.

    cordlesslamp , to linux_gaming in Doing my part

    Been using Steam for over 10 years but never got asked to do any survey. Is it something you need to turn on or register to? I would love to add my VR headset, my MacBook air (yes I game on it on-the-go), and my ancient PC from 2012 to the statistics.

    mudle OP , (edited )
    @mudle@lemmy.ml avatar

    Wow. I’ve gotten quite a few Steam Survey requests throughout the years; from what I can tell, it picks users ‘at random’. I’ve also read very mixed things on whether or not you can do it yourself, eg; go into settings and choose to do it?? Or run some command/dialog on Steam startup??

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    Yeah, I’ve heard you can trigger it.

    Perhaps OP opted out somehow? Because I’ve gotten it a few times over the past few years, and twice on my Steam Deck. I’ve gotten it twice on my work laptop too, but I refuse each time because I rarely use it to play games. I also got it once on Windows, and I boot into Windows like once/year…

    pacmondo ,

    They randomly select a number of users each time. You may just have been unlucky

    IndiBrony , to linux_gaming in Doing my part
    @IndiBrony@lemmy.world avatar

    See, this is the kind of data collection I’m okay with. When it’s to genuinely help make the product I’m using better and not just to line someone’s pockets or feed the algorithm.

    Valve aren’t perfect - they can make mistakes, too - but it fucking shows when someone up top actually cares about what they’re doing.

    I sincerely hope that Gaben has a worthy prodigy lined up for when he’s no longer in charge.

    darthsid ,

    I hope so too, but history has shown us time and again that sequels are usually worse off compared to the originals ;)

    herrcaptain ,

    Hopefully Gabe can pull off the Terminator 2 of successors, but that just means it’ll only be downhill from there.

    zaemz ,
    @zaemz@lemmy.world avatar

    There are some decent spinoffs, at least!

    GeneralVincent ,

    The second CEO of Valve will be good, but there won’t be a third 😔

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