It’s people like you that make me look like an asshole. Every morning I wake up at 3am to squeeze orange juice, make sausage gravy, biscuits, waffles, 5 omelettes, 40 pancakes, 6lbs of bacon, hash browns, buttered toast, and right after my son comes down the stairs, puts his ball cap on, grabs a single piece of bacon, heads out the door in a rush, I chase him down with a PB&J he inevitably always forgets. But it’s not like I want to waste 40lbe of food per day. Some days I just want my son to sit down and eat the 40lbs of food I prepared. He may think I’m overbearing but I’m really overcaring.
Tutanota is in Germany, which is part of the 14 Eyes global surveillance network. Protonmail is located in Switzerland, not currently part of any such intelligence agreements. Switz courts are also much less willing to approve search warrants.
I already know both Videos and i am still convinced that ProtonMail is the best Mail provider. Them giving the IP Address to the French authorities “for no reason” is a claim I hear parroted a lot, but it’s simply not true. Also, if the French activist had used Tor or even just the free tier of ProtonVPN they wouldn’t have to worry about any of that, so it all comes down to bad opsec
Protonmail and protonvpn are the same company and they probably would send out logs from that to. Protonmails tor service is pretty sus to. Why would it redirect to a clernet site. Vpns are not private and defenetly not email. Email was never made to be private so it isn’t and once you use something personal with it you are fully identified like this lemmy account, if you have ever signed in to it without using tor they could just ask lemmy and get your ip so in the end it does not really matter. Neither protonmail or tutanota is the best for privacy i guess that would be cock.li or some other onion only email
Proton wouldn’t have to disclose the real IP from anyone using their VPN, you can read their Blog-Post on that here. I think they fixed the next point, but why wouldn’t it redirect to a clearnet site? You are already using tor, hopefully on the “Most Secure” setting, so why would you care? VPNs can be secure (like proton or, even better, mullvad), but I agree that most of them aren’t. I also agree that E-Mail was not designed to be secure, but that doesn’t mean that it can’t be. PGP exists, and since proton is heavily pushing for you to use it, I think it’s okay to use their service.
Cock.li is a nice Mail provider with a not so nice owner and while the philosophy behind it is pretty cool it’s AFAIK also on every spamlist possible. Also the domains are, aside from airmail.cc, just not good for any professional usecase
You can create accounts on onions so why would it redirect to clearnet. When accesing clearnet sites in tor it has to use a exit node and most exit nodes are most likely runned by law inforcements. I guess it does not really matter what you use since you shouldn’t really send messages over email anyways. Only to create accounts that most likely can identify you
and most exit nodes are most likely runned by law inforcements
and why would you care about that? the protonmail site is using https (which is something that MO has criticised on the onion site for some reason), so the law enforcement would have what? the ip of the middle-node, the ip of the package-destination, and the date the package was sent? that’s not really that much metadata tbh.
anyways yeah we should switch away from email to something like matrix ASAP, but tbh that won’t happen anytime soon
The lock in and the lies. The first being your inability to read your emails in another client. Second is the lie that it’s secure when email is inherently not second. It’s making a false promise.
Oh and I forgot the new issue, being that you can’t zoom mail, which is infuriating.
Disclaimer: I pay for Tutanota and have for a few years. But I’m tired of it. Will switch to another season once K-9 becomes Thunderbird for Android
stick to low GI carbs perhaps, so it takes extra time to digest!
also, drink water right before a meal. turns out brain is pretty shit at distinguishing thirst and hunger… you also get “full” by drinking water so you end up eating a bit less heh.
Five and eleven eyes doesn’t matter if the service is encrypted and open sourced. Also, did you know that Switzerland has no superior privacy laws comparing to Germany? It’s all marketing bluff.
A single IP address, which would mean nothing with VPN use. Germany is literally part of the spying eyes. That is the difference here. Proton giving out one address vs the surveillance network of a NATO state?.. Lol
Ok? It does not matter LOL other states authorites can ask swis for information like what happend with the activist. Vpns are not private lol. You probably use your email for personal things like this lemmy account and you probably don’t use a vpn with it all the time so your email is already linked to you. Email is defenetly not private and was never made to be. If vpns are so private why is tor a thing?
So why are my German relatives super-scared of pirating because of the government finding out, and get me to torrent all their shit for them and mail it to them on cheap hardrives?
Correction: It’s not the government, it’s private law firms doing this. Your IP is public when you torrent, they just have bots monitoring the most active trackers and try to extort money from the people they catch.
This is how we got BSE/CJD in the UK, i.e. mad cow disease. Prions are really scary, if the moral weight of feeding animals their own species wasn’t already a good enough reason not to do it.
Honestly, I don’t know enough about pig behaviour to properly judge the practice. Maybe they’re happy to eat dead pigs, some animals practice… necrophagy, or whatever. But it’s not a great idea in livestock.
Hey, just incase you missed my reply as the post was deleted…
This is why people hate PETA.
Yes, PETA does some crazy shit, but as with many things there are two sides to the story which is difficult to see when you get bombarded by anti-PETA stuff as is common on e.g. Reddit.
They are the driving power behind all the misinformation and PETA-hate that is spread around. PETA is actually doing a lot for animal rights, that’s why they are such a big target for smear campaigns:
PETA kills animals because unfortunately there are no better places for them. Blame the puppy mills and irresponsible short term owners that give up their pets a few days or weeks after getting them because they had no idea what they got themselves into. Those people create more pets than there are places for them, so instead of having them become strays and further add to the problem, PETA put down those they can’t adopt out. Because PETA accepts all animals, even those that other shelters turn away in order to not sully their adoption numbers, PETA shelters end up with many more “hopeless” animals. See more here.
The case of the mistaken dog (and how PETA doesn’t steal and murder pets):
A farmer asked PETA to euthanise a pack of stray dogs that were aggressive and violent towards the farmer’s cows. Upon arrival, PETA found the pack of stray dogs, took them to the shelter and put them down, as a free service. Unfortunately it turned out, that one of the presumed stray dogs was a pet-chihuaha called Maya, that was not sitting on the porch, as often claimed, but running freely with the stray pack, without leash or collar or supervision. PETA fucked up, because they didn’t wait the 5 day grace period to give the owners time to look for and collect their pet. That’s why they had to pay a fine and apologized for it. www.whypetaeuthanizes.com/maya.html
The monkey selfie:
The monkey took the picture himself btw, the photographer just left the camera lying around. I am not saying the monkey should be copyright holder and it’s an open-shut case, but it does raise the question about the photographer having ownership over something that was voluntarily and independently created by an animal. What if a painter would leave his brushes lying around and an animal would create a painting? The artist actually sees it the same way and settled for a compromise with PETA followed by a joint statement. This was a landmark case in copyright law.
PETA equating milk to racism:
White supremacists actually use milk to demonstrate their superiority over “inferior” (their words, obviously) lactose intolerant ethnicities. That’s the reason behind their campaign on the issue.
Final thoughts (I promise):
PETA does a good job at raising issues and are one of the most successfull organisations to fight for animal rights. The granting of rights is the only real way to protect animals from unneccessary cruelty. Animal welfare will always be arbitrary, both in what species are worthy of protection, and the extent of protection they are worthy of. You cannot consider yourself an animal lover without recognizing the importance of that.
Sometimes PETA (intentionally?) overshoot, that happens when you try to move the border of current perceptions (i.e. animals are objects to be used for food, clothes, entertainment). I am not here to defend their tone or (lack of) tact, and there are a number of (sometimes downright stupid) PETA-campaigns I disagree with. I’m not trying to convice you to become their friend, but at least judge them for what they are doing, not for what they are said to do.
Most of the criticism of PETA you read on Reddit comes straight from the mouths of the Center for Organizational Research and Education (CORE), formerly known as the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF). It’s basically a corporate propaganda organization with donors like Tyson Foods, Wendy’s, and Coca-Cola. They also run campaigns claiming obesity isn’t that major of a problem and that you can eat 10 times as much mercury from fish as experts recommend. The vast majority of the animals PETA euthanizes are suffering and are brought to PETA’s shelter by their owners specifically to be put out of their misery, but the CCF distorts that into “PETA is stealing people’s pets off the streets” and Reddit gobbles it up.
The media also knows that PETA is an easy target. Years ago I read an article in one of the British tabloids (the Sun or the Mirror) with a headline something like, “PETA blasts child’s bunny wedding!” But if you actually read the article, what happened is a kid dressed up some bunnies in wedding outfits, the “journalist” reached out to PETA and asked them to comment, and PETA said something like, “we don’t support dressing rabbits in costumes because it may be stressful for them.” And that was the end of the story, but that wouldn’t get clicks so they distorted the headline to make it sound like PETA was protesting or attacking the kid on their own accord.
For the record, I think there are perfectly legitimate criticisms of PETA, like the sexist imagery they use in some of their ad campaigns and their welfarist (as opposed to abolitionist) approach to advocacy. It just gets to me that so many redditors claim to be rational and free-thinking but then read literal corporate propaganda about PETA and swallow it whole without a second thought.
Again, I hope you find out why you don’t like PETA (and can formulate some sort of coherent reason) other than the childish “because I don’t like them” kind of circular reasoning.
It seems to me like you’re against PETA for some reason.
So am I in ways, laid out in my info dump above. But, I GUESS it can be a long read for some people, and I wouldn’t expect someone who doesn’t explain why they don’t like PETA to have the cognitive development to rationalise why. This might all very well be going totally over your head. But that’s OK, others will read. :)
There is many reasons to hate them. The difference is, I don’t have to spam an essay on every vaguely animal related form to try to convince people. Funny that you already know that when animals are mentioned, PETA gets mentioned and people are smart enough to know bullshit when they see it. I hope you realize that you work for some really shitty people and get away. There is always time to make a good decision.
Me- ‘It seems to me like you’re against PETA for some reason.’
You- ‘There is (are) many reasons to hate them’
… Doesn’t state one…
Lmao can’t make this shit up, you’re all the same xD
You’ve got the same narrative as every other anti-peta melon lol. That’s whatever you’ve been fed over the years by the smear campaign, clearly sunk it’s teeth in deep to you.
I was there once, lambasting peta and other things without knowing the truth. You say ‘the difference is’, what do you mean by this? The difference between me and you?
Obviously for me the difference is I’ve done my due diligence recognising my morality and impact of my life on the world.
This is called “growing up”, check it out you might enjoy the philosophical dilemmas you can come up against.
It’s clear you haven’t got anything, you would have mentioned it.
If you took the time to read the info dump(doubt), what don’t you agree with? But be careful you’re not just an avid PETA hater because of what you’ve been told and are just angry your narrative is being challenged. (which is what I expect)
Forgive me for not giving you the respect you think you deserve, you’re not smart enough to have a back and forth with. You seem like a bot programmed to astroturf about PETA. Go on bot, let’s see an original thought, dare ya :)
Hope you realise one day why you’re against PETA.
Edit: oh god, I’ve just read your comments. I’m really sorry, I didn’t know you’ve just got absolutely no idea what’s going on in the world.
Take it easy mate, I won’t bother you again if it stresses you out, hope things get better for you.
Still can’t bring myself to use proton pass. I’ll be much happier when proton drive better integrates with desktop machines as well but calendar, VPN, email and the bonus simplelogin premium are way too useful.
You do also kind of put all your eggs in one basket so to speak though. I don't have anything against Proton and the pricing makes sense if you value all their services and pay for Ultimate (though by my estimate, less sense if you are only looking for a smaller handful of services). However, if you go fully into Proton for everything, you're placing your trust into an entire stack of services and it can end up a single point of failure.
I trust their privacy claims but if you backup your email and calendar you can just as easily move elsewhere if Proton does go down. Having only one provider can make things a lot easier to manage.
However, if you go fully into Proton for everything, you’re placing your trust into an entire stack of services and it can end up a single point of failure.
Yeah, I know
The point is that Proton offers good service at a reasonable price, and for me that’s it, that’s perfectly fine
I’m not religious, but I do feel like writing something like this is comparable to selling your soul to the devil. The person who wrote this abandoned their humanity for capitalists and they should be ashamed.
If they had the capacity to feel shame, I don’t think they would have penned that article. Disgusts me how quickly people abandon humanity for a few schillings
Lmao what the fucking hell. I hope that guy was let go by whatever college he “teaches” at. I put teaches in quotations because I hope they are drug testing that fucker. He took some flaka or something.
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