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orcrist , to asklemmy in What is your favourite open source software that you discovered in the past year, that you can no longer live without?

Nothing. Discovered mine long before.

southsamurai , to showerthoughts in Cursing is when you use edgy filler words instead of saying something meaningful.
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This is so far from unpopular.

The general social mores are against cursing. While that has been slowly changing, it hasn’t reached a tipping point yet.

It’s also not a new opinion. There’s a lot of sayings related to it, my favorite being “cursing just gives people permission to ignore you”.

The rest of your post? Flawed examples. But that’s just my opinion, you do you.

Mr_No_Swearing OP , (edited )

Yea I get what you mean, Thanks.

Inregards to the flawed example, how is it flawed?

I’m getting cooked over here, anything will help.

southsamurai ,
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Well, it was one, I just didn’t catch the typo of examples instead of example.

But, you’re using an insult. Your example is already something nasty to say, no matter how you say it because you’re attacking someone. Using curse words is no more or less effective at pissing the person off enough to shoot you (as an extreme but possible outcome).

For an example to work to support your opinion, it has to be undirected because directed statements are never neutral to begin with.

A better example would be something like pointing out a painting you don’t like.

You could say, “that looks like something a five year old vomited up after drinking finger paints”

Or, “that thing is so fucking ugly it makes me want to vomit”.

As long as the person you’re saying it to isn’t the artist, owner, or a dedicated fan of the artist, you have a relatively controlled example where the main difference is the presence of cursing.

See the difference in the examples? If I call you a giant moron, it doesn’t matter much if I say fucking moron instead. It’s the insult that’s doing the work, not the adjective.

Now, this applies at any level of creativity. “You’re about as pleasant as the south end of a north bound mule” is relatively creative, as is “you’re a bigger asshole than the north end of a south bound elephant” very similar insults, with the significant difference being the cursing.

In that specific example, it could even be argued that the use of profanity increases the effect, and it would, depending on the target. Cursing is an amplifier in a huge swath of the population. “You’re a jerk” isn’t as effective as “you’re a fucking jerk”, because that extra step outside of social mores deepens the aggressiveness of the insult.

It’s definitely subjective. There are people that would be more insulted by a well crafted, profanity free barb. But, on the whole, insults are about aggression and challenge. It’s a form of dominance display to an extent. So using insults as an example for the effects of cursing is flawed by nature.

Now, a better example yet would be the weather. Someone saying “I’m tired of this fucking rain” is more boring than someone saying “I really wish thor would give us a warning before bukkakeing the world”. Is bukkakeing an actual word? Doesn’t matter, but it struck my mind lol. You can replace the jizz reference with “spitting on”, if you feel sexual matters serve the same role as cursing.

Once you remove the insult factor, it becomes more about the cursing itself, which makes a better example and point of discussion.

Mr_No_Swearing OP ,

I appreciate the examples and the info.

If you don’t mind I want to borrow your rain example for the post, with credit of course ;).

As for the insult sting ability, I understand that if your going to make a sentence long insult then cursing dosen’t seem to weaken it’s effect, others brought up that it doesn’t hurt the insult if swears are used.

I also understand that being offended can be subjective.

I just find that if your going to try to be cunning with words, why give somone the ability to say “You mad bro?”

It’s harder & more biting to think of the words where they’ve to think about whats said than having it morph into a shouting match or something along those lines.

For the second point. Maybe I’m just terminally online, but it seems as if everyone curses & only knows how to curse. When I see a true insult it’s as if a breath of fresh-air & it usally stops the other guy in their tracks for a bit. It also has the funny factor for me, but I’m willing to accept that it’s my own view on humor.

Outside of christian mom’s or people saying not to curse here for: advertisers to feel safe or because it’s inappropriate to say it in front of children, my experience is the lemmys down-voting me & saying I’m wrong seem to be the norm for people.

Again, I understand where you arrive from, policing speach isn’t cool & people end up doing it for the reason, usually for offensive speech hurts people. I just find curse words to mean anything & everything, & I just don’t find it that hurtful. For example, I live with Jehovah’s witnesses that curse. I had my mom curse at me when I was little. It just seems to be “I’m angry” written edgyly if it has emotion at all.

Hope you understand what I mean, if not, let me know.

Emperor , to casualuk in Should we reintroduce wild wolves to the British Isles
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Eventually, yes. They’d help manage the deer population which is out of control in some areas. I’d even not rule out reintroducing bears, but they’d be a slight danger to people so that may have to be more tightly controlled.

However, reintroducing once native species will have to be gradual. The government now seem to be taking steps to make the release of beavers better planned and that could lead to the release of lynx and bison in some areas. If we do bring wolves back a compensation scheme would have to be in place for farmers losing their stock.

HumanPenguin ,
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Given, the brown bear was the traditional UK bear, pre-Roman times.

It is rather hard to imagine them in modern day UK. The population living in areas they are introduced, would def need to be trained and prepared.

I cannot see that happening due to lack of support. Wolves we know as historical fairy tale villains. But in reality they avoid humans where they are still native. Brown bears have more fight than flight when taken by surprise. And don’t tend to have the nervousness to avoid the interactions themselves. Hence, why travelling noisily is recommended in areas they reside.

Pretty sure everyone knows the bells on shoes joke.

daggermoon , to lemmyshitpost in Social media in a nutshell

I love the cold. I wish I lived someplace cold. I can’t stand the heat, and I don’t particularly care for warm weather either.

vamp07 , to fediverse in Celebrities will never adopt the Fediverse until usernames are centralized.

I see this as a benefit. Generally speaking celebrity posts are the most useless threads on most platforms.

HarryOru , to asklemmy in What is your favorite sketch by "The Onion", aka "Onion News Network"?
save_the_humans , to asklemmy in What is your favourite open source software that you discovered in the past year, that you can no longer live without?

spotDL. Searches YouTube to download whole Spotify playlists and includes artwork and metadata.

BruceTwarzen , to nostupidquestions in Every show with a suicide now has a disclaimer with a suicide hotline at the beginning. Is there any evidence that these warnings make a positive difference?

Definitely better than the YouTube approach and just make people call it suiclide, so no one really knows that they can kill themselves

FlashMobOfOne OP ,
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Agreed.

Diplomjodler3 , to cat in Dinner guest cat in Mugello, Italy

That cat is lucky she doesn’t live in Ohio.

MyNameIsRichard ,
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Not so much dinner guest as dinner. Although to me, it feels like trumped up charges.

sartalon , to memes in I wish for the abolishment of capitalism

Capitalism sucks for the same reason Communism sucks. For the same reason Libertarianism would REALLY fucking suck.

Because people fucking suck.

People will always abuse the power they have to keep/accrue more of it.

Look at unions. Absolutely necessary for workers to unite and fight being taken advantage of by the companies who see them as nothing more than a number on a sheet. But then they can become the problem. (Look at the police unions for a perfect example.)

Religion. It was a great tool that helped raise civilization from small tribes. It created ethical mores that cemented the value of the individual. Then the ones that became powerful went on to become institutions of manipulation and control

There needs to be a balance and Communism is not it.

The original commenter is right. This is a stupid meme.

WaxedWookie ,

Police unions - what could possibly go wrong when the members of the arm of state power collectivise to exercise their collective power. The example you’ve selected speaks volumes about your sincerity and/or familiarity with the subject.

Similarly, unchecked power wielded by divine mandate that never had an interest in structural checks. We couldn’t possibly bake such checks into a more democratic, less hierarchical governmental and economic system.

You want to shit on the concept of democracy while you’re at it because of the current state of the US, champ?

yogthos ,
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Why do people just keep repeating this idiocy.

JubilantJaguar , to linux in How to save data for archive purposes?

The local-plus-remote strategy is fine for any real-world scenario. Make sure that at least one of the replicas is a one-way backup (i.e., no possibility of mirroring a deletion). That way you can increment it with zero risk.

And now for some philosophy. Your files are important, sure, but ask yourself how many times you have actually looked at them in the last year or decade. There’s a good chance it’s zero. Everything in the world will disappear and be forgotten, including your files and indeed you. If the worst happens and you lose it all, you will likely get over it just fine and move on. Personally, this rather obvious realization has helped me to stress less about backup strategy.

nucleative , to asklemmy in Could you do me a favour and make this post look like a Reddit post?

Chuck Testa!!!

atro_city , to asklemmy in What is your favorite sketch by "The Onion", aka "Onion News Network"?

Sony Releases Stupid Piece Of Shit That Doesn't Fucking Work. Replace by Sony by Apple and it still fits perfectly.

Akasazh ,
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The MacBook wheel comes closest

Cysioland ,
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I know about it only because someone dubbed it in Polish many years ago

dumbass , to lemmyshitpost in Social media in a nutshell
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If I’m not bitching, I’m dead.

sag , to asklemmy in What is your favourite open source software that you discovered in the past year, that you can no longer live without?

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