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Celebrities will never adopt the Fediverse until usernames are centralized.

Because let’s say you’re Tom Hanks. And you get [email protected]

Well, what’s stopping someone else from adopting [email protected]?

And some platforms minimize the text size of platform, or hide it entirely. So you just might see TomHanks, and think it’s him. But it’s actually a 7 year old Chinese boy with a broken leg in Arizona.

Because anyone can grab the same name, on a different platform.

csolisr ,

Account verification is relatively simple, if you have your own website you just add a link back with a special formatting. Problem is, barely anyone applies for self-verification, and several platforms such as Lemmy don't support self-verification whatsoever. I can see why something like a distributed verification agency should be a thing, if we manage to make the implementation less technical for the end users of course.

queermunist , (edited )
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This would require some kind of federation alliance of instances that check each other’s usernames to ensure no duplicates over the whole network. Sure, maybe lemmy.shit doesn’t recognize the network, but then they don’t get federated with.

This is definitely possible, but it doesn’t seem to be happening.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

Oh I’ve been thinking it needs an official alliance now for some time. Where a preagreed set of protocols are all adheard to. Just so all the services can play nicely with each other. Still decentralized in operation, but unified in experience.

And if some rouge instance wants to stay seperate, well, good luck growing hexbear.

ArtieShaw ,

Shock: I'm not really Artie Shaw.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

I don’t know who Artie Show is. You could have told me you were Artie Shaw, and I’d have not questioned it. I’d have just thought that was your name.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Good

Today ,

I think it might be kind of nice to be Tom Hanks and have the name [email protected] and just chat and chill.

NegativeLookBehind ,
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Those poor celebrities! What will we do without them?

AstralPath ,

The fix for this is for the guilds and unions that represent these celebrities to spin up their own instances. The suffix of the username granting the legitimacy.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

It would solve the issue for people who look into it. But what if I registered [email protected]? I could pretend to be you. And because most people won’t check, I’d get away with it until people caught on.

Now if you make your living off your public image, and I say horrible things, your career could take a hit. Even if nothing I said is true, and its proven it was never you.

People will just remember “Hey, remember that time AstralPath admitted to having sex with their grandmother?”

“No, that wasn’t actually them.”

“Are you sure? I remember reading about it in (insert tabloid here)”.

And suddenly you have a legit reason not to use a platform that easily ruins your career through no fault of your own.

People will ALWAYS attempt to troll online for the memes. Remember Boaty McBoatface?

ada ,
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That’s why she hosts her own domain, instead of sending half a million followers to some random fediverse instance.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

This solves the issues of having the same username across all platforms, assuming you host an instance for every platform you want to use. And also mske those domains private. But it doesn’t address that same username being used on another instance/domain.

Like imagine someone had the usernsme [email protected] and was impersonating you. If you made your living off your name, an imposter would affect your image.

ada ,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

If I was making my living off of my name, I wouldn’t even know some random user with no followers from a troll domain exists.

Whatever the reason celebs don’t take to the fediverse, this isn’t it…

pruwybn ,
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Taylor Swift’s Twitter handle is @taylorswift13 and it doesn’t seem to be a problem for her.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

Because there can only be one taylorswift13.

There aren’t multiple instances on twitter.

pruwybn ,
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My point is there could be a @taylorswift but it doesn’t matter because people know which account is hers.

reddig33 ,

Reminds me of ICANN fucking up all the domain names.

CocaCola.com CocaCola.new CocaCola.drink Cocacola.world CocaCola.bev

Etc.

Shameful. One thing that might work for the fediverse is federal institutions running their own Mastadon instances on .gov to move away from announcements on Twitter. You can’t fake .gov domains.

NightOwl ,

I’m not here for celebrities and they will always flock to centralized platforms anyways, since they are all about the views.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

they will always flock to centralized platforms anyways,

I’m trying to change that.

since they are all about the views.

Which is why if we make the fediverse normalized for celebrities to host content, they can get more views here.

I fully believe that this fediverse concept CAN be the future of the entire internet. Services that don’t even exist yet can integrate with the fediverse, and it can scale easily by it’s very nature. But there’s a LOT of rough edges that keep the normies away…for now.

Right now, the fediverse is more than just decentralized. It’s fractured.

Imagine posting an update on something, and it goes out to your mastodon, your Lemmy community, your pixelfed, and your peertube accounts. All at once. You wouldn’t follow services, you’d follow people.

But we’d need all these services to integrate with each other nicely. And part of that would be making it so you don’t have 7 different accounts for 7 different services. You have 1 account, and sign up for each service under that account.

All your notifications would go to the same place.

Your identity would be your username. People would know if it’s your username, it’s you.

GBU_28 ,

Truthiness of a user should be determined with corroboration on 3rd party services.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

Except no one will. If millions of people were on the fediverse, maybe 1% would confirm.

We live in a world where people read the headline and believe it, but don’t even open the article.

GBU_28 ,

Then it doesn’t matter.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

But it would.

Imagine Kamala Harris as president had a mastodon account. And somebody else made a duplicate Kamala Harris account. And this duplicate announced that the United States has gone to war with Russia.

Except these media stations don’t know how the fediverse works. They don’t know what an instance is. They just see Kamala Harris on social media announcing war.

And in media you HAVE to be the first to break the news story. So now you have every major news outlet confirming nuclear war, and the nation is panicing.

Meanwhile, Harris is trying to figure out how this all started. And this whole thing maybe lasts 10-60 minutes before somebody notices the mistake. Then it takes time to correct themselves and calm everybody down.

All over something that isn’t happening. All because people don’t check sources.

Now this is an extreme example, but I could see it happening if the fediverse was bigger, under it’s current setup.

GBU_28 , (edited )

Or, all accounts in the fedi are anonymous by nature, and if they need to be verified, they are verified on 3rd party sources.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

Except they won’t.

GBU_28 ,

Then return to the first clause.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

Then people won’t sign up for it.

The fediverse as it stands right now is confusing enough as it is for new people. Now you’re saying you want to add in the chaos that comes from everybody being annonomous? They say that the internet, and trolling, and threats of violence are encouraged online because you’re annonomous. And now you want to highlight that feature on a service thats hard enough to grasp without nazis and death threats.

GBU_28 , (edited )

Who cares? Like, none of this matters. Don’t put the fedivwrse on a pedestal

Nothing here is verified internally, and shouldn’t be. Centralization is antithetical to the decentralized nature of the fediverse.

Lost_My_Mind OP ,

Right now it’s not just decentralized. It’s fractured. It should operate as decentralized, but from a performance standpoint it should feel like it’s centralized.

Remember, most normies won’t know or care what decentralized even is. But the reason sites like instagram have users isn’t because it’s centralized. It’s because that’s where the content is.

Peertube is suffering HARD from lack of content. Which is why you want celebrities bringing exposure to the fediverse. They bring content.

Go outside to a popular public place and ask 100 people in person how many people have heard of the fediverse. I’d be SHOCKED if 1 person knew what it was.

Now get a popular youtuber like markiplyer, or good mythical morning, to post their stuff exclusively on peertube, and suddenly 2-6 million people all flock over and create accounts.

scrubbles ,
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I don’t think it’s a huge deal, we’ll either know they’re legit or not. Care to weigh in @MargotRobbie ?

lambalicious ,

Well, what’s stopping someone else from adopting [email protected]?

There’s over 1400 people solely in the US named Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks The Celebrity does not get patent rights or trademarks or copyrights on the name.

Wanna know which is the Tom Hanks The Celebrity? Check if their profile is authenticated against their personal website, à-la-Mastodon.

wesker ,
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I honestly hope they never adopt the fediverse. Imagine wanting that.

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