Fusion360 is only software I use that I cannot get running on Linux. So my wife’s last macbook now lives to play Tidal in our garage and run NoMachine so I can remote into it for Fusion.
To be fair there still is a lot of tinkering involved to get gaming on Linux working properly (unless you’re on the steamdeck, but even them you’ll have to tinker for anything that’s not verified). Switching proton runners, changing launch options, fighting updates. It’s definitely more than most people are willing to deal with. For me personally, I’ve had to stop updating my video drivers because Nvidia 555 causes all Proton games to crash for me.
I enjoy the experience of tinkering and troubleshooting, so I’m okay with all that, but I completely understand why most people wouldn’t want to use Linux for gaming.
I honestly cant remember the last time I bought a game and it didnt just work with no tinkering on proton. Though I am on AMD not Nvidia which makes things a lot easier.
Ive had a handfull of games that work on steam deck but had to tinker on my laptop. Cyberpunk would crash on the first splash screen and stormworks would only run on my igpu and not dedicated. But also im also using nvidia.
I guess this could also be based on the distro you use as well as your graphics card. For me, I use EndeavourOS, which is very close to base arch, so I had to do some extra setup to get proton working on it. For some reason, Proton refused to work on the Arch repo’s Steam package, so I had to use the flatpak version instead
The only thing really preinstalled is basic stuff like desktop environments and a few tools to help with updates and manage the system (eos-update, etc). Even almost all the package repositories are the ones maintained by arch.
I’m on EndeavourOS with an Nvidia gpu. I’ve not had to do anything extra for the the version of proton that comes with steam to work besides install the os with the Nvidia proprietary drivers. And then running eos-update --aur --nvidia
I did notice that I got a lot of screen tearing if using Wayland and that more recent versions of proton didn’t work if either Force Composition Pipeline or Force Full Composition Pipeline were enabled; which should have fixed the screentearing so I just use x11 for now.
There are some things I did to make my experience better however. Like installing an proton-ge. Here is a list of what I installed.
<span style="color:#323232;">nvidia-dkms
</span><span style="color:#323232;">nvidia-settings
</span><span style="color:#323232;">libva-nvidia-driver </span><span style="font-style:italic;color:#969896;"># required by vlc to play mkv files with nvidia gpu
</span><span style="color:#323232;">nvidia-tweaks </span><span style="font-style:italic;color:#969896;"># https://github.com/ventureoo/nvidia-tweaks
</span><span style="color:#323232;">lib32-nvidia-utils
</span><span style="color:#323232;">gamemode
</span><span style="color:#323232;">proton-ge-custom-bin
</span><span style="color:#323232;">lib32-libudev0-shim </span><span style="font-style:italic;color:#969896;"># fixes Steam runtime's super old 32 bit version of libnm
</span><span style="color:#323232;">lib32-libnm </span><span style="font-style:italic;color:#969896;"># required if using systemd 253.5-2 or newer
</span>
I would also install nvidia-dracut-hook if you are using both Nvidia and dracut. Dracut is the default on recent versions on endeavorOS.
For proton ge, I also added myself to the games group with
<span style="color:#323232;">sudo usermod $USER -a -G games
</span>
I also like to prepend the following to my games launch options in steam
Mostly that for me on Nvidia (proprietary drivers), although 555 broke my 2nd DVI-D monitor (which is admittedly old, but I don’t have any reasons to replace the little guy).
Nevertheless, I’m very set on getting an AMD GPU whenever I have to replace my GTX 1080 from 2017.
Speed. Unfortunately (at least the last time I looked into it) NVENC still beats the socks off of VAAPI in render times and I’m sure Nvidia likes it that way.
Yup. I know exactly what you mean. I bought Nobody Wants to Die, which is rated platinum on protondb, and it just crashes within 1 second of startup for me. 3h of fucking around with proton versions, launch arguments, even tried lutris, nothing. The only error I could see took me to a stackoverflow thread about vga to dvi adapter issues and the fix was not relevant. My protontricks is apparently also broken which I have no idea why or when it broke.
I got it refunded, it is what it is. I’ll look into fixing my protontricks when I have more time…
Funnily enough, I’ve had almost this exact same thing happen… On Windows. More than once. Spending days getting it to run hardly at all and weeks trying to figure out how to make it run well. On modern hardware, with both old and new games alike.
I’ve not had that much trouble yet with Linux gaming, with only a few exceptions where I needed to tweak a couple things stuff has pretty much just worked.
Same for me with DRG and Dolphin+XLinkKai+ZeroTier, they just didn’t work for me on Fedora 40 no matter how much tinkering I did.
Lemmy’s response? sKiLl IsSuE.
Well sheesh… Seems I’ll stick to Windows since I lack the skills to use Linux then.
I’m on Mint with a nvidia card, I haven’t really had to do any tweaks since I stopped trying to install games on an NTFS-formatted drive and nearly every game works perfectly out of the box. There’s a lot of very loud voices complaining about nvidia/tinkering but it’s definitely not universal; you won’t necessarily need to put in a lot of effort to get games to work on Linux.
I made the same statement you did a while ago about having to tweak stuff to get it to work. I just don’t have the time and patience to do it, and I got voted down for saying Linux isn’t for me. I work tech, the last thing I want to do when I get home is mess with more settings and drivers etc.
The Linux and steamdeck forums EVERYWHERE constantly make apologies and excuses for having to tweak things to get gaming to work.
I just want Linux to be an out of the box great gaming experience, and I would sing to the rafters it’s praise. It just isn’t, and unless developers make their stuff work for 3-5% of an install base, I just don’t see it happening. I want it to, I really do, but it’s just not for the masses.
So I’m missing out on Destiny, PUBG, CoD, Siege, Battlefield, and Lost Ark… Yeah I’m totally okay with that personally. There are thousands of other games I’d rather be playing and they all work great.
I don’t think anybody ever told someone else not to use Linux when they are already using and enjoying it. This argument is often used as a defense against switching to Linux. And of course, if you just want to play your games without messing with all the bottles and Proton versions, Windows is still the way to go, especially for older games.
As a challenge I tried getting several older games to work on Steam Deck, and while it was fun for me, I like tinkering, I can totally see how it can be a huge hassle for others.
I know this won’t work for everyone, but I just quit playing games that don’t work or even from publishers that do shitty things and there’s still plenty of games out there. There’s a lot of shovelware out there, but there’s also a lot of good stuff out there.
I think it’s worth advocating for quitting shitty games, though.
Out of many friends I’ve had who (used to) frequent games like PUBG, Dota 2, League of Legends, Valorant, Overwatch, etc., most were just having a bad time, all the time. Granted, some of these work on Linux, but the point is, those of my friends that still play Overwatch (“2”, lol) just seem to be happier and more functional when they have to quit for some period of time.
I’ve been having a much better time with my life once I went for the good old enjoyment rather than chasing rank or wins or skill, finally making time to play amazing single-player titles again or just screwing around in online games.
And curiously enough, the online games I actually want to play and have fun doing so are the ones that work on Linux, while the rest thankfully refuses!
I used to kinda complain about this but being unable to play lol or lostark has greatly improved my life. I don’t mind being unable to play these games.
I am very grateful for proton and all of the technologies that allow me to play majority of my games. linux gaming in 2015 was painful.
Years ago I bought a ps4 controller to play in my Linux pc, but the games didn’t recognize the controller input, I had to use some program to map the keyboard to the controllers but it didn’t work well, so I installed steam and with it ir worked perfectly. Because work and college I had to stop gaming for a couple of years, and I tried again some weeks ago with Lutris, to my surprise that the controller got recognized and worked perfectly without the need for steam.
Did some searching. The paper from 2019 that discussed this -
We recorded 65 dBSPL (dB of sound pressure level) ultrasonic sounds 4 inches (10 cm) from tomato and tobacco plants, implying that these sounds could be detected by some organisms from up to several feet (meters) away.
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