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nicknonya , to science_memes in Giving this to my PI
@nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

your private investigator?

piotrm ,

Principal investigator.

Brkdncr , to technology in Blocking AI bots from Microsoft, others has been “pain in the a**”: Reddit CEO | Huffman says companies must pay to scrape Reddit data even though Reddit itself relies on free, user-generated content

What if I had an agreement with MS that they can scrape my data and anything I post online?

Brkdncr , to technology in Blocking AI bots from Microsoft, others has been “pain in the a**”: Reddit CEO | Huffman says companies must pay to scrape Reddit data even though Reddit itself relies on free, user-generated content

What if I had an agreement with MS that they can scrape my data and anything I post online?

catloaf , to technology in Blocking AI bots from Microsoft, others has been “pain in the a**”: Reddit CEO | Huffman says companies must pay to scrape Reddit data even though Reddit itself relies on free, user-generated content

And yet reddit is happy to make money off our content for free.

Or at least it did. Personally I overwrote and deleted all my content a while back.

iAmTheTot ,

You think that Reddit didn’t already have the previous content saved?

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

Bingo, the only winning move is not to play at all and stop using Reddit.

Animoscity ,
@Animoscity@lemmy.world avatar

Yep that’s how it works. Older content past a certain date is cached which is why you can’t comment or post on some old posts.

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Everyone always says this like it’s some kind of gotcha, but all of my nuked posts still have my “fuck you, reddit” content and haven’t been reverted. It’s been nearly exactly a year.

Maybe reddit has an offline copy of my old content and that of others somewhere, but if so they’d be handing that directly over to whoever under some kind of agreement – that certainly wouldn’t be the subject of any kind of site crawling which is the crux of the issue here.

stevedidwhat_infosec ,

You’re ignoring the idea that they could still be working on a way to restore content and haven’t completed that process yet

Or that they could start feeding your archived (not cached) data directly to the AI companies anyway for a price

IMO, you can win by jamming your “transmissions” with noise. It’s easier to hide in noise as noise than it Is to be silent IMO. Muddy the waters as it were

finley ,

You’re ignoring the idea that they could still be working on a way to restore content and haven’t completed that process yet

there’s no evidence to suggest this, though.

iAmTheTot ,

I certainly wasn’t implying that they were going to revert your comments.

finley ,

i went looking for old comments and posts i had made after i overwrote then wiped them. They’re still gone. i looked again several months later, and they were still gone.

so, unless reddit did a massive restore of everyone’s comments/posts except for my 4 accounts, then i don’t believe they did it at all except for a select number of top contributors who deleted their content.

iAmTheTot ,

As I said in another comment, I was not suggesting that Reddit would restore your comments to public view.

finley ,

there’s no evidence to suggest that, either.

SpaceNoodle ,

Except for incidents like This

BorgDrone ,

You are assuming edits overwrite existing content. Instead of overwriting, they could just store the edited post as a new entry in the database with a higher version number. Then, you only show the latest version of each post to the end users while keeping the older versions available die Reddit’s own use.

In fact, it is extremely likely they do this. It is basically a necessity if you want to be able to properly moderate a site like Reddit. Otherwise you could simply post spam or unsavory content, and then overwrite it with something benign an hour or so later, before there were enough reports and a moderator would have gotten a chance to review it.

finley ,

You are assuming edits overwrite existing content

i have seen no evidence to suggest otherwise, but thanks for sharing your theories

In fact, it is extremely likely they do this

based on what evidence? your baseless speculation?

BorgDrone ,

The fact that they managed to restore overwritten posts after people started to delete their history.

finley ,

this could also be explained by sketchy scripts failing to completely delete posts/comments, which i even noticed myself when checking that they had done their jobs properly. as i mentioned in another comment, i had to run the shredder scripts several times for complete overwrite/deletion. or it could be database errors failing to register edits/deletions due to extremely heavy loads at the time. it could be a lot of things.

the point is that we don’t have any direct evidence of what it actually was, just a lot of circumstantial evidence and a lot of speculation. nothing definitive.

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

It seemed to happen to some people but I wouldn’t be surprised it it was just some sort of coincidental database fuck-up

finley ,

i suspect that was more likely incomplete deletions than reddit restoring content. those scripts were pretty janky. i had to run mine several times to get everything, as it didn’t work fully the first couple of times. same with the overwrites. took a few times for those to get everything, especially on older accounts with lots of posts and comments.

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
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I’d read some claims that posts appeared to be deleted but then later came back. Could’ve even been some sort of caching shenanigans with their local browser though I guess.

finley ,

oh, right. i suppose that’s possible. i’ve seen similar browser cache fuckery on other sites before.

finley ,

as i said in a previous comment:

so, unless reddit did a massive restore of everyone’s comments/posts except for my 4 accounts, then i don’t believe they did it at all except for a select number of top contributors who deleted their content.

but there’s no evidence they’re keeping everyone’s deleted-but-restored comments from public view or whatever it is you’re suggesting. or even anything past whaat this one person found. in fact, there isn’t even any evidence that what happened to this user was intentional and not a bug or some other fluke.

sure, reddit would have a vested interest in doing this, and what you’ve presented is suspicious, but it’s hardly conclusive of anything. all it does is raise more questions. but it doesn’t provide answers.

dmtalon ,

They aren’t making money off my content anymore/in the future

AlexanderESmith ,

All you did was screw over people looking for potentially useful content while searching online. Reddit still has all your content.

dual_sport_dork ,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

Sure, but if they’re not displaying it what good is it doing them or their advertisers?

AlexanderESmith ,

They're not selling the ability to scrape their publicly viewable site, they're selling API access to their database. Deleted posts aren't removed from that database.

ChadCMulligan , to technology in Blocking AI bots from Microsoft, others has been “pain in the a**”: Reddit CEO | Huffman says companies must pay to scrape Reddit data even though Reddit itself relies on free, user-generated content

Reddit is dying anyway.

iAmTheTot ,

It’s easy to say this as someone who is “on the other side”. But the data doesn’t really back up that statement.

catloaf ,

I don’t have data, but the quality of the content certainly seemed to be declining, even as the quality went up.

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
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I think autocorrect might’ve gotten you: You posted “quality” twice in a contradictory way.

li10 ,

It’s awful. Politics is unavoidable at this point, and the amount of general anger on the platform is crazy.

People love watching their videos of people getting TBIs… Or getting too excited about a “justice served” post where a woman gets hit.

It’s kinda nice to see someone get their comeuppance, but then you look in the comments and there are just weirdos saying stuff like “glad that bitch got hit”, like… wtf?

ShareMySims , to youshouldknow in YSK how to spot Love Bombing

The catch is that the love bomb goes away, and you become devalued after the love bomb. This is usually followed by a “discard phase”, where if you try to confront the behavior, you are rejected and made to feel at fault. After you’ve become upset by this, they will often start the cycle again to keep your loyalty.

To add to this point, to maybe enlighten people who haven’t experienced abuse and don’t understand how someone wouldn’t notice this or leave once they do - while love bombing you, an abuser will also slowly isolate you from everyone in your life you would turn to for support and make their opinions of the relationship seem unreliable.

Phrases like “it’s you and me against the world”, “no one understands us”, “they’re jealous of what we have so want to break us up” are big red flags because they’re the foundations of destroying your trust in anyone but the abuser, and making you entirely dependant on them for validation, which when not love bombing, they will deprive you of to break you down further (gaslighting).

Love bombing is the first step towards coercive control.

TommySoda , (edited ) to youshouldknow in YSK how to spot Love Bombing

I feel like this can be age and maturity specific as well. When I was like 14 to like 21 I was a love bomber. I had never been in a real relationship and I didn’t understand how to express myself. To my misfortune, the only thing I had to go on was movies. It’s the same kinda situation like having unrealistic expectations about sex by watching too much porn. Because of this I always went over the top thinking that’s what you were supposed to do. I didn’t understand the differences between infatuation and love until I had my first real relationship. Put a lot of things into perspective after that and I realized how much of an asshole I was being.

You should definitely know the signs and should definitely do what is listed. I’m just saying sometimes it comes from confusion and ignorance and not just malice and manipulation. The issue isn’t black and white. But at the same time, even if someone is doing it out of ignorance I still believe everything above is true.

I’m not sure what my point is besides sharing my experience. I guess that sometimes the one love bombing might just be someone that is lonely and isolated and doesn’t know what to do. But that shouldn’t change how you react to them. Boundaries are important and this can easily be a very bad situation even if they are a good person.

TheSambassador ,

It’s definitely hard to know when being overly enthusiastic ends and when love bombing begins. I agree that it isn’t always necessarily malicious but, as with most everything, clear open communication is the solution.

MataVatnik , to technology in Blocking AI bots from Microsoft, others has been “pain in the a**”: Reddit CEO | Huffman says companies must pay to scrape Reddit data even though Reddit itself relies on free, user-generated content
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Late stage capitalism

KingThrillgore , to linux in Switching back to Windows. For now.
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It’s all good. Use what makes you happy.

JaymesRS , (edited ) to technology in Blocking AI bots from Microsoft, others has been “pain in the a**”: Reddit CEO | Huffman says companies must pay to scrape Reddit data even though Reddit itself relies on free, user-generated content

Robots.txt isn’t a binding agreement, this isn’t stopping anyone for whom their drive for profit outweighs their ethics.

Also, Fuck Spez.

Lemminary , to technology in Blocking AI bots from Microsoft, others has been “pain in the a**”: Reddit CEO | Huffman says companies must pay to scrape Reddit data even though Reddit itself relies on free, user-generated content

I’m not sure what Reddit is still doing with that spaz. Ditch the fucker.

HEXN3T , to lemmyshitpost in Twitter
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It literally isn’t Twitter anymore. Twitter and X are very different things. We shouldn’t even be pretending that they’re related.

Alice , to asklemmy in What are something you immediately took for granted and were surprised about?

Central heat and air. I’ve been at my new place less than a month and every time I had to go back to the old place to pack and clean, I was surprised at how hot the back rooms were, even with A/C and fans on.

Wogi , to pics in Aerial Photo of Lake Chad

Fun fact, Chad means lake. This is one of many Lake Lakes

cheesymoonshadow ,
@cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world avatar

What’s another Lake Lake?

Wogi ,

Lake Tahoe is a mispronunciation of a native word that kinda means lake. Lake Michigan is literally lake large lake. There’s a lake in the UK called lake semerwater which literally means lake lake lake.

The list is quite extensive.

Neurologist OP ,

Lac Léman, is the french word for what english people call lake geneva (all the region around lac léman is french speaking).

Léman comes from celtic “lemann” which means lake.

So lac léman is the lake lake. Given it is the biggest lake in western europe, not a bad name.

Feathercrown , to asklemmy in What is an event that altered you in some way?

Covid. For the first time I understood that a lot of people simply do not care about anyone but themselves. I’ve come to understand that more and more recently. On the bright side, I now value the people who do a lot more.

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