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ShareMySims ,

While them getting a jail sentence is good, the term is a joke, especially since they’re not likely to actually serve it all or even any of it (house arrest, time served, “good behaviour”, bribes, they aren’t short of ways nor money to get around it), and are probably the most likely to re-offend out of anyone who has ever stepped foot in a jail…

I would be much more excited if they were made to pay their earnings for the duration that they kept slaves, to the people they enslaved (never mind all the other people they have and continue to exploit to get to be the richest people), and were then kept under constant supervision to make sure they don’t start doing it again as soon as they possibly can. (I am well aware this will unfortunately never happen)

ShareMySims ,

Bribes aren’t exactly a thing in Switzerland. I’m not saying there isn’t corruption but it’s not common.

Ba ha hahahaha… Thanks, I needed a good laugh…

Having you, a random citizen think there are no bribes and little corruption (I can’t even type it without laughing) doesn’t mean there aren’t any.

Switzerland, the country that claims “neutrality” but acts as the world’s best known financial, and physical, haven for not only the “anonymous” filthy rich like this family (who still have more influence on society as a whole than you can imagine), but actual dictators and war criminals, past and present, too IS corruption, in its entire essence. Its economical and political existence relies heavily on some of if not the dirtiest and most ill gotten money on the planet (the least dirty of which comes from wage theft on a global scale). Being discreet and polite about bribes and corruption is why. Maintaining favour with the evil people whose assets they protect will always be prioritised over anything else, including their local population (who are generally happy to look the other way as long as the dirty money keeps them in a relatively high standard of living, which is why they are kept in a relatively high standard of living), never mind the poor and or enslaved people overseas who are the ones actually paying the price.

That said they have to pay nearly a million dollars to the victims.

That IS a bribe, they’re literally throwing pocket change at the problem to make it go away. Going on their net worth of $70.8b, if they spent a whole million dollars a day, they wouldn’t notice it missing for nearly 200 years. And I say again - 4 of those years are categorically not going to be spent in prison, because they are never going to serve their entire sentence (and whatever part they might serve will undoubtedly be in greater comfort than they ever provided to those they enslave, and I deliberately use present tense because this isn’t going to stop them), which was already a corrupt and pathetic slap on the wrist to begin with.

This isn’t how you stop the filthy rich from enslaving people, this is how you put on a show for the poors to pretend to care while you continue to enable the exploiters and oppressors, because your government and economy depend on it (and because all of those “corruption scores” you see out there are based on perception, not fact).

And you’re buying the act.

ShareMySims ,

Are you a paedophile? No? Then that’s why you find it easy.

Not defending this guy or anyone who harms kids, but to try and compare how easy it is for you not to do, to how easy it should be for those who have urges you and I can’t even imagine not to do, isn’t really productive - it completely ignores the core of the issue - for some people it isn’t that easy, and they need serious help, before they cause harm, not for their struggles to be brushed off as something that isn’t real because the rest of us don’t experience it.

And just to reiterate, this isn’t a defence, and those who do harm others should absolutely suffer the consequences, but you’re never going to stop that kind of harm from happening again and again if you pretend the problem that causes it doesn’t exist.

ShareMySims ,

I’ve made it through my entire adulthood without molesting any children…. WITHOUT EVEN TRYING. It’s real easy, the only thing you have to do is not fuck any kids

This is what I am replying to.

None of what you said contradicts anything I’ve said, the only somewhat relevant point you touched on is

it is also the responsibility of pedophiles to not put themselves in positions where they have access to children. They might not be able to help their urges, but they can choose not to work around children or share a home with children.

Which only brings me back to my original reply - are you a paedophile? No? Then that’s why you think it’s that easy.

and

to try and compare how easy it is for you not to do, to how easy it should be for those who have urges you and I can’t even imagine not to do, isn’t really productive - it completely ignores the core of the issue - for some people it isn’t that easy, and they need serious help, before they cause harm, not for their struggles to be brushed off as something that isn’t real because the rest of us don’t experience it.

ShareMySims ,

True, sadly it’s only one of so many contributing/possible factors, and that’s the point - we can only ever try to tackle the problem if we look at the whole (admittedly very large and gruesome) picture, not just the focused anger at the individual that we feel when we first hear such things happen. Which is justified, don’t get me wrong, but punishing one paedophile won’t stop other paedophiles - if it was going to it would have already. Only addressing all of the factors that lead to them feeling the way they do (personally within themselves but also societally, as you point out), so that suitable places for them to turn to for help and treatment can exist, will.

ShareMySims ,

🙄

And just to reiterate, this isn’t a defence, and those who do harm others should absolutely suffer the consequences, but you’re never going to stop that kind of harm from happening again and again if you pretend the problem that causes it doesn’t exist.

And to add: acknowledging the source/s of a problem ≠ sympathising with someone who has it.

ShareMySims ,

Your reply implies that because you struggle with anxiety (as do I, it is not comparable to paedophilia) but are still able to avoid harming others, and are able to reach out for help, that there is no reason why paedophiles can’t just do the same (so basically making the same claim OP on this thread made - if I can do it they should be able to do it too), ignoring that disclosing and getting help for anxiety and disclosing and getting help for paedophilia are two very different ball games for many different reasons, a few of which you even pointed out with your asterisk at the end. So you can clearly understand, to a point anyway, that some people may not have as good an access as you have, but it isn’t only due to money or location, but also lack of professionals willing to, or who are even educated in helping paedophiles, and that some people simply have a more serious condition than you do. So again, and hopefully for the last time - Are you a paedophile? No? Then that’s why you find it easier.

Your reply also implies that I have sympathy for paedophiles and or that I don’t think they should be held responsible for their actions, or that I’m “letting off the hook”, which I’ve already made clear isn’t the case.

ShareMySims , (edited )

At the end of the day therapists are just people, and some of them are really terrible (as therapists and or people), also therapy in itself can be outdated and ill-equipped to deal with many issues they as professionals don’t yet understand and or we as a society brush under the rug. Which is one more reason why I think it’s important to recognise that it’s much more complicated than “just don’t do it, I don’t”, otherwise there will never be enough understanding of the influencing factors to enable actual, effective help to become more available (E: my concern isn’t with coddling the paedophiles, but with reducing their numbers to protect as many kids as possible).

ShareMySims ,

https://i.imgur.com/A0JEC0Zl.jpg

ShareMySims , (edited )

Governments and pharmas don’t intentionally create new diseases

No, but that doesn’t stop them profiteering off them when they happen, at the expense of public health

(E: though lets not act as if H5N1 isn’t spreading entirely due to corporate greed and the lack of regulations and enforcement it buys from the government)

ShareMySims ,

You’ve got it the wrong way around - those making all the money also control the education system and the media and bot farms and very deliberately create an ignorant population and sow mis and dis information to encourage movements like anti-vaxxers. You shifting blame to the people being manipulated absolves the manipulators of their responsibility.

ShareMySims , (edited )

Imagine being so privileged and out of touch that you think going to the same school makes your experience there identical to everyone else’s, as if it is the only influence (it isn’t, that’s why I listed others which you have conveniently ignored) or that they outright teach fascism and you were spared, instead of what they really do which is teach white-washed history and civics, and discourage critical thinking, which has clearly worked perfectly well on you too. Never mind acting as if socioeconomics, religion, ability, race, gender, and so on, and the biases against them that exist in the educational system (and society at large), or the pipelines that rely on those biases and designed (by those in power who need the support) to pick up on those who are most susceptible to it and send them directly in to white supremacy, don’t exist and aren’t fundamental to shaping a person’s experience, understanding of the world and even ability to understand the world (despite there being ample evidence of all of this happening, you just have to be willing to look, and no, I’m not wasting my time doing your research for you because I don’t think you really want to know).

Guess what? Your experience isn’t universal and being less susceptible to one kind of propaganda doesn’t mean you aren’t susceptible to others, or more aware than they are that you too have been manipulated - you’re literally doing the manipulators dirty work for them by blaming their victims instead of them. and the systems they maintain to manipulate and oppress the rest of society for their own gain (I wonder where you learned to do that… 🤔).

As for your ending this discussion - if you actually knew anything about the Nazis, you’d know just how crucial a part propaganda and manipulation played in making them popular enough to gain power. Acting as if Nazis and other bigots are “just born that way” and that you’re simply better than them, is almost as dangerous as they are, and will never lead to any change (which is fine by you, because just like them, you’d rather have someone to punch down at, than aim your anger at those actually responsible and punch up).

TL;DR: this is you

(E: actually, it isn’t quite you, since as we established, you clearly have been influenced by propaganda, just like every other person on the planet because you’re not special, and you certainly do lack those critical thinking skills)

Edit again because I know some people are dedicated to misunderstand things that make them uncomfortable - none of this is a defence of bigots, you’re just never going to address, never mind end bigotry if you insist on ignoring its source, like anyone who blames individuals for systemic issues is doing.

ShareMySims ,

Now apply it to the super rich, before their accountants get their “creative” hands on it.

ShareMySims ,

Flu-galoo

With the recent issues of transgender people in sports, why don’t we move some sports over to a weight-class system?

Obviously this won’t work for all sports, but things like football, track, soccer, it would allow for de-gendered team, even allowing athletes with the skills but not the genetically-endowed physical attributes to have a place to play....

ShareMySims ,

Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

(edit to be completely clear: being queer myself, this is not something I am celebrating, just pointing out that you have the correct answer)

ShareMySims ,

theconversation.com/whats-behind-the-gender-imbal…

ShareMySims ,

How NIMBY of you…

ShareMySims ,

It perfectly describes what this person is doing - not caring to solve the problem, just to move it along so it’s not in their own back yard.

ShareMySims ,

This is a massive spoiler for the film in the context of the conversation, but have you tried

spoilerSorry to Bother You (2018)

ShareMySims ,

Just saying that that kind of thinking sets up a “we’re superior” mentality that can too easily lead to the same kinds of consequences as thinking you’re superior based on race or social status.

It already does, it’s called ableism and it has such deep roots in society it is everywhere no matter political leaning, which is why it is rarely addressed - because most of society still sees it as perfectly acceptable that disabled people are inferior (even though ableism impacts them too, not just because accessibility and inclusion benefit everyone, but because people just don’t like to think about getting hit by a car, having a stroke, or just growing old, nor about their child being born neurodivergent for example).

ShareMySims ,

What I’m referring to is the idea of allowing myself to believe that a people group are less intelligent than I am just because they don’t align with me politically or ideologically. There is no actual handicap for which they are being discriminated against

They might not have a disability, but using intelligence based insults isn’t ableist because of that, just like calling someone “gay” as an insult isn’t problematic because the person they’re trying to insult isn’t actually gay, but because it frames being gay as a negative term and something worthy of derision and mockery.

ShareMySims ,

I had assumed, but didn’t know it was a documented thing that we know happened. Thanks for sharing, and thanks OP, too.

Not that it matters, transphobes will make up whatever excuse they need to dismiss this like they do all other well documented science and facts, they just need so deeply to beat down on someone they see as inferior.

ShareMySims ,

hopefully there will be less controversy and more human moments in sports.

Just no trans moments, since they’re all being excluded, but sure, what’s important is that there is no “hoopla” to distract you from your entertainment… 🙄

Transgender swimmer Lia Thomas out of Olympics after losing legal battle (www.theguardian.com)

The US swimmer Lia Thomas, who rose to global prominence after becoming the first transgender athlete to win a NCAA college title in March 2022, has lost a legal case against World Aquatics at the court of arbitration for sport – and with it any hopes of making next month’s Paris Olympics....

ShareMySims ,

But she isn’t a man, so whatever is happening on the mens side isn’t fucking relevant, is it?

ShareMySims ,

“Separate but equal” where have I heard that before… 🤔

ShareMySims ,

What if…

Maybe cross that made up bridge when you get to it? So far this hasn’t happened and is only being imagined as a strawman to argue in favour of this transphobic discrimination.

ShareMySims ,

scientificamerican.com/…/stop-using-phony-science…

ShareMySims ,

Looks like they just had an unfortunate address where they started out:

Many moons ago (1996 to be precise), Sheila Samuels decided to start an events company, working out of the bathroom in her home at no.88 Ayr Road

www.88events.com/about-us/88-events-history/

ShareMySims ,

Except walking around with a calculator that says 80085 isn’t telling several parts of the population that you want them dead and aren’t afraid to say it

ShareMySims ,

I doubt they’d change their name, but I suppose it couldn’t hurt to mention it to them…

ShareMySims ,

Or you could just skip the unnecessary ablesim, my point is perfectly clear and accurate as-is.

ShareMySims ,

affinitymagazine.us/…/stop-using-intelligence-bas…

cultrface.co.uk/alternatives-to-ableist-terms/

ShareMySims , (edited )

Seems to me like he said it again (E: or that the spin doctors are telling us about him saying it again now, I doubt it’s the first nor the second time he’s said something bigoted) because he can see that people are more focused on him using a slur, than they are on the context that it is being used in - excluding gay men from the church.

That isn’t to say there’s nothing wrong with using a slur, there obviously is and it all feeds back to exclusionary attitudes, but this is clearly a distraction, and it is working very well - I’ve not seen any comments about the actual discrimination.

ShareMySims ,

Diddy has entered the chat

ShareMySims ,

Orgasms are normal, healthy and necessary

Yes, yes, no.

While orgasms are normal and can potentially have some physical and mental benefits, there is no physical or mental necessity to have them (plenty of asexual and otherwise celibate people of all different kinds out there to prove it).

ShareMySims , (edited )

Well done, you’ve provided some anecdotal effects and benefits, which I didn’t deny exist.

However none of them demonstrate necessity.

Breathing, sleeping, drinking, eating, shitting - those are necessities.

Having orgasms is not, no matter how much you try to convince yourself and others.

ShareMySims ,

More fertile, for sure, if much stinkier…

ShareMySims ,

We have this thing called autistic inertia, which sounds similar, and since people already mentioned ADHD, maybe start here and see if anything rings a bell and go from there:

medium.com/…/adhd-autistic-inertia-and-pda-what-s…

ShareMySims ,

I only recently learned the term, and I too felt it in my bones… So validating each time I discover another bit of my autism has a name and is known by others and isn’t just me being “useless”.

ShareMySims ,

Take it a step further - even defending your own autonomy from yourself. Even things you want to do or even thoroughly enjoy become impossible once a demand is introduced. Add that to executive dysfunction, and daily life (and dealing with a neurotypical world that has no idea about these issues) becomes a real challenge.

ShareMySims ,

Unfortunately that’s pretty common. Personally I think that the accumulation of trauma (which is unavoidable being neurodiverse in a neurotypical world) makes the brain even more defensive, making it ever harder to break through the walls it creates in “self defence”. I wish I had something more encouraging or helpful to say, but I have the same struggles.

ShareMySims ,

Oh yeah, for sure, on both the varied manifestation, and not being alone in the struggle. ✊

ShareMySims ,

There is a lot of overlap and comorbidity between autism and ADHD, having one definitely doesn’t rule out having the other, and if you think diagnosis and or medication will help, I say go for it, just mention your suspicions about potentially having both to the doctor.

ShareMySims ,

So frustrating isn’t it…

ShareMySims ,

Ahahaha perfect 😂

ShareMySims ,

It already did, I’m struggling to find the link (E: found it ), but Jenny Watson the woman who launched this shit was found to be like 98% likely to be “a man” by her own software (someone ran the photo of herself she used in the launch tweet)…

ShareMySims ,

Amazing how it’s all so easily wrapped up and explained away (lol, only in your own mind) when you simply completely ignore the circumstances and systems that create a situation like you describe…

ShareMySims ,

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