This reminds me to the completionist video (using mlem, don’t know how to link videos) where he’s trying to get the complete 3ds and Wii U libraries and all the hoops he had to jump in order to complete them.
The thing is that even though there will be probably some that will try to achieve a complete collection for these consoles, how many of these games will be unplayable due to not connecting to servers? Modern gaming is in a very sad state…
This reminds me to the completionist video (using mlem, don’t know how to link videos) where he’s trying to get the complete 3ds and Wii U libraries and all the hoops he had to jump in order to complete them.
The thing is that even though there will be probably some that will try to achieve a complete collection for these consoles, how many of these games will be unplayable due to not connecting to servers? Modern gaming is in a very sad state…
Same thing I play every week. Coral Island and RCT3.
Coral Island is in Steam Early Access and is as yet unfinished, but is making steady progress and the devs are doing great at keeping everyone up to date on progress. Coral Island is frequently compared to Stardew Valley. Frankly, I don’t enjoy SDV. I’ve tried and tried and it just doesn’t do it for me. Coral Island is everything I was hoping SDV would be. It’s game play is similar, but I find the whole thing much more enjoyable.
I’ve been playing RCT3 off and on since I first bought it on CD a million years ago.
A lot of articles load all of the content before the paywall, so another easy (but kind of scuffed) option is to just stop the page from loading after the content has loaded but before the paywall has
I think digital store only titles really muddy the waters in terms of completionist collecting. I don’t see any reason why people interested in collecting wouldn’t also collect PS4/Xbox/Switch games though. To me the more pressing question is, what will happen to retro collecting when consoles stop having physical releases? Kids growing up in that time period won’t get the joy of returning to childhood favorites by getting a working console and physical games. That makes me sad, I my self have had a blast putting together a collection of my favorite Genesis and PS1 games along with a lot of consoles from that era.
This is quite true, with one exception: It would be very wrong for any medic or EMT to tell a receiving nurse “that you can wait”. I am a paramedic in Virgina, USA, and that’s not how we do things. We deliver the patient to the ER, tell the nurse the patient’s chief complaint, our findings, and any other pertinent information. We do not presume to diagnose the patient or suggest treatment modalities or strategies. The nurse passes our information and any new findings to the doctor. It is ALWAYS the doctor who tells the nurse to find a staff member to wheel a non-emergent patient out of the emergency room. very often, as you point out.
When hubby & wife meet you at end of driveway. Hubby has “flu like symptoms” and wifey follows the ambulance for the 2.5 minute ride to the ER… you better believe the first words out of my mouth to the triage nurse will be: “This guy can wait.”
There are just so many words to excuse defederation when it just comes down to technical limitation (not all QoL and moderation tools are ready yet) and power users insisting on curating their precious communities.
Is it really that hard to get that most people are upset because most people just want a high quantity of contents in the most efficient dose possible? This is why Reddit grew to what it is in the first place. Reddit was never really about quality of content. It has always been about user driven contents over curated contents.
The inconvenience of defederation is exactly the strife with the whole situation. Communities splintering is not exactly something new, it happened many times on reddit before. The problem is that this is a really crappy time for defederation: when people are still new to this platforms, when there are many power users and mods still exploring this platform as alternating option, when a lot of QoL tools have not been deployed for an expected experience, when a lot of communities still have not have its helpful members start their contribution, etc.
I suppose these kinds of things ought to happen anyways, as people are still figuring things out. But to regard this as anything but a shit show is blind imo.
This also just is the time defederation happens most. When populations grow faster than people can manage.
Taking on the responsibility of hosting a community website means doing what you think is best for they community. For a place with clear rules and established norms, that means upholding those rules. And if you can't uphold them against the sheer number of people flooding in, then it means reducing the number of people.
No one website is responsible to the network. This is not a power trip. Though this is about people protecting their "precious communities", as you so judgementally put it. Because they set up their site to create a coherent community.
If you way to be a part of it, you can apply to join. If you don't, then you're not entitled to interact with them.
I do not disagree that defederation will happen. In fact no one actually even know how federation would look like here at all. It's all experimental at this point.
In fact, Kbin did defederated from the network once. Unlike beehaw, it was a lot shorter, the purpose was clear and handled quickly, without so much drama. What I am saying is that the situation is handled like crap. All these talks and it just reminds me of the same old reddit mods power struggle than what people are trying to paint federation as.
I do intend to interact with communities that I do want to interact with - just as how I did it on reddit before - once actual community members can move over from reddit without being tangled in this faction wars. You cannot just ignore that a lot of people def do not want to leave reddit to lemmy due to these drama.
This seems like a snipe at me for no reason. I have no interested in "interacting" with the big boys here while they are doing their own things and I do not have the interest nor expertise to fix their issues. My time and interest would better be spend on hobbyist communities that I do like to interact with as I do previously on reddit.
Beehaw's defederation purpose is very clear, and they didn't start the drama. The mods of Beehaw started it as a safe space for minorities and marginalized communities, which is why you have to apply for an account there in the first place. The rapid expansion of the Fediverse led to their server being flooded with comments from other lemmy instances that the mods were trying to avoid by the creation of beehaw in the first place, so they chose to defederate. Seems pretty clear-cut to me.
Edit( The drama started when everyone else started flipping out, thinking they were owed participation in a community they weren't a part of. You are owed nothing)
If you don't like it, that's fine. They didn't do it for you. They did it for them and for their users. If you don't like it, you can create an account on an instance they still federate with.
Beehaw’s defederation purpose is very clear, and they didn’t start the drama. The mods of Beehaw started it as a safe space for minorities and marginalized communities, which is why you have to apply for an account there in the first place.
also just to hop in here and underscore a really important point: THE DRAMA IS LITERALLY ALL USERS BEING WEIRD ABOUT THIS. NOBODY ON THE ADMIN SIDE CARES. WE ARE LITERALLY COORDINATING WITH THE PEOPLE WE DEFEDERATED WITH (and a bunch of other folks) TO MAKE THE PLATFORM BETTER SO WE DON’T EVEN HAVE TO DO THIS. THERE IS NO ENMITY BETWEEN US AT ALL. this is so fucking weird to watch play out, because it’s all people getting mad on behalf of their instances when everybody behind the scenes is chill and understands!
The only drama I’ve seen on it is a few idealists on other instances complaining about it and these posts.
I actually like beehaw more as an instance because of what they’ve done.
Nilay Patel had a great article when Elon bought Twitter. One of the key take aways I tend to agree with is:“The essential truth of every social network is that the product is content moderation, and everyone hates the people who decide how content moderation works.”
I love being part of a community and being able to discuss and debate. But ultimately I want to do it in a place where I don’t feel creeped out, skeevy, or where I am getting harassed or threatened.
I value the moderation. I value the curation. I want the mods to defederate if they see an influx of trolls, shit posts, or sketchy content from a particular instance.
And you know what, I’ll be annoyed when they block something or someone I don’t think they should have.
The reality is: the fediverse is designed for this sort of thing. Theyve been very transparent and they will re federate when the tooling is better. I have no reason to doubt that.
When you make a community whose key promise is providing a safe space for marginalized groups, is it not your duty to actually make good on that promise?
To Beehaw, following through on that is more important than growing as fast as possible. People who want growth at all costs shouldn't use Beehaw.
Unfortunately, the inconvenience is something of a catch 22. Do we allow everything through for the sake of convenience? What happens when extreme content that is NSFL gets posted? What happens when illegal content is federated, or hate speech that indicates action will be taken is made? What happens when you observe a pattern of this behavior from a common source? Content must be moderated for things to be “safe” and the rate that unsafe, nonaligned content was coming in wasn’t sustainable.
Choosing to defederate wasn’t taken lightly and it was done reluctantly. It was discussed for two days after observing systemic effects from those instances and after reaching out to the instance admins for alternatives.
I see you’re posting not from a beehaw account, which means you likely haven’t seen @Gaywallet 's post on what it is to be a community and the framework to get there. This posts may help you understand this instances stance on things and what our instances users are hoping for is to build.
All in all, sorry you’re not happy, but we’re being careful for our community.
I do use beehaw and saw those posts. I do not support the overall goal of beehaw, though that is not related to the content of what I posted above. Imo, Beehaw as a curated communities should not try to play both sides and handle the situation poorly - which does confuse the overall communities here. If they choose to go walled garden mode, then they should commit to it.
Regards your first point, and partly why I do not agree with beehaw overall goal, I do not think all of what you listed (and what I heard a lot from beehaw or similar closed communities) are such a problem as people are making it out to be. Reddit itself is terribly vile as all of the contents you listed there already exist on the platform. The reasons why you do not see those on reddit on daily basis are 2 folds. One, the tools on reddit that filter those contents are rather decent - which is something lemmy does not have, yet. And two, those types of contents do get naturally filtered by the internet communities itself - something that happened on reddit many many times.
I do not support the overall goal of beehaw, though that is not related to the content of what I posted above.
i mean this respectfully but… why would you use a place you don’t support the overall goal of? from my perspective all of this just seems like a waste of your time, because you could just be putting all the energy you have in this thread behind a community you actually support
Because Beehaw is not the entirety of the federation? I am not sure if I follow your question. I am not on Beehaw.
I support the exploration of federation concept (which at this point, the tool and experience are not yet developed to that point), and support the people and communities going through the transition from reddit to this deferation system (which a very small percentage of people went through to here).
Beehaw supports neither of these. They backed out, and they want to create curated communities specifically.
My energy is spend on the many communities I do engage with... on reddit. Those communities have barely any post here because the majority of people do not trust these platforms. It makes sense that I want the federation as a whole (ignoring beehaw) to not sink before the people can move to these spaces.
I realize the confusion now. I forgot that from the perspective of people on Beehaw, they would not see me posting from kbin immediately without checking the handle.
To paraphrase my point: I support the development of lemmy as a federated project, but I do not support the goal of Beehaw (which they do have on the sidebar and I read it more than one). This purely comes from my own experience and preference with curated communities.
I do not have a problem with Beehaw defederate from others.
However, I do not see defederate is a solution to the many issues with lemmy as a whole. I disagree with the original post on federation, but I do agree with a lot of their replies about the technical limitation.
I still think you’re not getting it. This post is on Beehaw. You’re in a thread on Beehaw talking about the goals of the community here saying that “it isn’t for you.”
Fair enough. But then… why are you here? You don’t have a horse in this race. Beehaw defederating with them didn’t affect you at all.
Not trying to be a dick, but if you don’t agree with what’s being built here, then shouldn’t you not follow the communities here? Or, at least, not join the discussion with strong opinions against the community’s goals?
Maybe it’s stretching a metaphor too hard, but it’s like criticizing your friends’ homes when they invite you in.
I, for one, fully support Beehaw’s very simple mandate to “Bee Kind”, and I’m very glad the admins took the steps to protect that mandate from outside parties.
I think you are the one who does not get it. Unless Beehaw completely defederate from everyone, posts on Beehaw is a part of the federation, meaning all federate communities that beehaw agrees to connect with.
This is why I said the whole defederate/federate thing Beehaw people do not seem to get or do not want to understand. You are part of this, we are not part of you. If you want your own community, commit to it and disconnect. If you want the benefit of the federation, you do have to work with other and deal with consequence.
For transparency - I’ve given you a temporary ban. You’re all over this thread. We understand you are upset about this, we’ve heard your voice, it’s time to disengage.
Totally fair point, but I also think you are highlighting something really important - Lemmy is absolutely not ready to “replace” reddit, from a pure scale and number of users perspective…not even close. This is not at all an admonishment or knock on anyone working their butts off (as devs, as instance owners, as admins, as mods - almost all as volunteers!), just a statement of fact. I will admit, as a user of that platform for ~15 years, at some point, I kind of stopped paying attention to just how many people were there. This technology community within Beehaw, for example, is currently ~20k strong and there are a few other communities across the lemmiverse of similar size - in contrast /r/technology has, after an exodus, ~14 million subscribers and is not even considered among the most popular subreddits. So yes, it may feel like a shit show, and honestly, I won’t say it isn’t, but that’s how new, emergent technology usually goes, generally, and we (collective we, not just beehaw, all of us looking for our new home) should be mindful of that, which I know is easier said than done.
Broke a helmet and concussed myself as a teenager because my quick release on the front wheel was loose, and well you can guess what happened. Learned a valuable lesson that day to always, always check that the quick release is tight
The best way is to have a small server with wireguard installed, which is a VPN. This runs on virtually anything, including a raspberry pi or even a router with open-wrt.
Anyways, your wireguard server will only accept connections from devices that have its certificate (secure passwordless authentication).
Once you’re connected to that VPN, it’s effectively as being in your home network.
You might want to Google for guides on how to setup wireguard on a raspberry pi. Even if you don’t have a PI you’ll surely find the tutorial you need.
There are some communities that are not available here because it’s not yet existed or it’s on other servers. Like for example monster hunter has existed in lemmy.ml but lemmy.world not. The lemmy.ml manga is different from lemmy.world manga lemmy.world/c/mangalemmy.ml/c/manga
I’ve been thinking about getting some stuff from my childhood again. I recently watched We’re Back on YouTube and while the movie is not great, it has a great charm, which has been making me think of getting the VHS tapes I used to have as a kid.
Aside from that movie, I’m also thinking of getting The Brave Little Toaster Goes to Mars, Anastasia, The Jungle Book, and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
I've got a better idea: enable downvotes so we can give this post (and others like it) the treatment they deserve.
Seriously, "its [sic] obvious this is a failed experiment" after less than one week? And "a majority of users aren't going to sign up for yet another site"... except for you? Give it a rest.
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