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Bishma , to fediverse in Smells like Lemmy Spirit
@Bishma@social.fossware.space avatar

Welcome newbie. Most of us were in your shoes recently. You’re already following the top tip: be engaged. To be counted as an active user you need to comment or post once a day. Nothing wrong with not being active, but the number of active users is a shiny sparkly number we’re all staring intently at for the moment.

If you are looking for the communities similar to Reddit, look at sub.rehab. You can filter that to just lemmy and kbin.

Enjoy. Your task now is to find the poop post. You’ll probably catch references to it soon, if you haven’t already.

Bootywind ,

I’m just here so I don’t get fined.

Spicylem OP ,

Do upvoting or downvoting count or only actually posting/commenting?

Spicylem OP ,

Do upvoting or downvoting count or only actually posting/commenting?

Spicylem OP ,

Do upvoting or downvoting count or only actually posting/commenting?

Spicylem OP ,

Do upvoting or downvoting count or only actually posting/commenting?

Bishma ,
@Bishma@social.fossware.space avatar

AFAIK, it’s just commenting or posting.

Spicylem OP ,

Eek. Been getting server errors. Sorry for duplicate posts. Hopefully this is because of all of newbies. 😀

valkyre09 , to mildlyinfuriating in These sockets above a dartboard in a pub

I feel these sockets may have been a practical choice for power supplies that extend too far up or down. This approach gives the best of both worlds for them to be able to plug in whatever is needed. Why are they in the ceiling above a dart board? No clue…

Devgard , to android in Pls Help me decide on the most cost effective phone when my biggest deciding factor is a nice camera but I'm not paying $800 for a dang phone

Gonna agree with the others, if you want really good cameras, get the Pixel.

Markiboj97 ,

Yeah and to add to this, buy the pixel 7a to save some money or a discounted 7 pro if you really want some good pictures

Matte , to youshouldknow in YSK: If you're on Lemmy.World or Sh.itjust.works you should not subscribe to any Beehaw communities

I don’t understand: did something serious happened, or it’s them overreacting?

jack ,

It’s just down to Lemmy not having good enough mod tools yet. Beehaw is a carefully curated walled garden instance that hosts some high quality communities; they are availing themselves of the only real tool they have to curb an influx of bad actors from other instances.

Here’s hoping its temporary. The admin team here at sh.itjust.works clearly operates in good faith.

NuMetalAlchemist ,

They have stated as much, and are open to refederating once the mod tools can handle the influx of people joining instances with open sign-ups. Side effect of the reddit refugee crisis.

Manticore ,
@Manticore@lemmy.nz avatar

They defederated because they were both large Lemmy instances with zero review process for joining users, and they’d rapidly starting acquiring bots and bad actors. Because of federation, these accounts could interact on Beehaw’s server like they were locals.

Beehaw on the other hand, has a human-powered review process for signup. It isn’t strict, but it keeps out bots or low-effort users. Beehaw’s community goal means that reducing the amount of bots, bad actors, and low-effort users on the platform is a priority for them. Their moderating is also human-powered, and very involved - not outright banning/blocking. They reach out to users to discuss their content’s intent, and issue warnings/requests personally as needed.

That level of moderation is fantastic for fostering community and is compassionate for ignorance and error; but it isn’t scalable when being hammered by bots and an influx of new accounts. Beehaw’s only protection from instances that shelter bots and bad actors was to defederate from them until those instances were able to address them somehow.

The Beehaw admins have reached out to the admins of the other instances; their hope is to find a solution that reduces the amount of bots and spam accounts creating on .world and .works. They don’t want defederation to be a permanent solution, it’s just the only feasible one they had.

Riaz ,

There sign up process was nearly successful in putting me off from ever trying Lemmy. I almost gave up finding instances which would let me join without filling in a completely stupid form where I have to state what communities I will join when I haven’t even had a chance to get to know what communities are out there!!.

BURN ,

Same here. The signup process for Lemmy sucks. It’s confusing and instances make no logical sense for account management. Personally I have no interest in other instances, so eventually I just picked the biggest and that’s what I’m sticking with.

rainpoint , to youshouldknow in YSK: If you're on Lemmy.World or Sh.itjust.works you should not subscribe to any Beehaw communities

this is completely reasonable, they own the instance and should be able to do whatever they want with it.

Firebat ,

OP didn’t say it was wrong. Just a tip.

ArtificialLink , to linux in Best Distro for Laptops?

Popos. Surprised no one has said it.

simo , to fediverse in Done with Twitter and Reddit
@simo@lemmy.world avatar

500 upvotes in 2 hours?! Fuck yes bois. Fuck that jailbait mod spez, and his shit website full of toxic spakkers.

Long live the fed!

DrQuint , (edited ) to nostupidquestions in Would darknet market discussion be allowed on Lemmy?
@DrQuint@lemmy.ml avatar

So, personally, I don’t want to be even close to that stuff, because I’ve seen the damages the undernet can do.

But, far from me to be the voice of censorship. I haven’t pirated a single game or book in years, and yet, I actively follow scene news, and talked with others about stuff like Z-Library, clearly on the side in favor of the pirates.

So, exercising what empathy I think appropriate, I think the very last thing you want to do is ask for permission. Because others might not give it to you, no matter the legality of your intents. Specially if you openly say it revolves “contraband”.

Go find an instance specifically made for people who do want to talk that stuff, and others will defederate from you when they notice it. The dream of a single platform that allows it like Reddit used to is gone, but multi-accounting is a thing. You shouldn’t even be making this thread, you will just give the issue attention and spread the word to your peers that Lemmy isn’t an option. Attention was how the gore and violent porn and the loli lemmies got so swiftly removed, which is a stark contrast to how reddit operated (something something spez and jailbait). But they’re still there. Just not searchable from here or lemmynsfw.

Willer ,

ive seen the damages the undernet can do.

Reminds me i gotta get new swimming trunks before vacation

AFKBRBChocolate , to nostupidquestions in Why does /All show different posts in different instances?

I’m not certain, but part of it would depend on what instances you’re talking about. For example, Beehaw defederated from .world and shit just works, so /all is going to look a lot different from those three.

RxBrad , to fediverse in Done with Twitter and Reddit

I thought I’d be able to roll with the Reddit Android app. But, man, it’s rough. All of the fonts are way too tiny, and navigation can be a giant jankfest at times.

I might still roll by Reddit on a fullsize PC monitor on the web. Or I might not. Kind of depends on if Lemmy totally buckles under the server pressure over the next week or two.

RooRLoord420 ,

The servers have been rough today, but ultimately I haven’t found it too intolerable. Haven’t really been a big fan of the Reddit desktop site, so I’m probably sticking around here for a bit.

Hangglide , to nostupidquestions in How did Lemmy.world become more popular than Lemmy.ml?

I am new like most of us. When I signed up I had no idea what an instance was. To me the name Lemmy.world sounded like it was more general and therefore would have more content so I picked that one.

PopularUsername ,

Yeah the name sounded the most inviting. It’s Lemmy… That’s the name of what I want… And it’s world, that sounds like a generic description of “everything”. But at the end of the day I just clicked a link in a comment. Seemed to me to be the more popular one suggested.

Mothra , to nostupidquestions in Why does /All show different posts in different instances?
@Mothra@mander.xyz avatar

I read an instance will only mirror content after an user requests it, so different people may have different requests.

for example if I want to follow a community about gardening on lemmy world, and nobody else from my instance is following content from lemmy world, then my instance doesn’t show lemmy world- until I subscribe to a community. Once I do, my instance will start receiving lemmy world content, and everyone else from my instance will be able to see lemmy world (even if they dont follow anything there) if they browse All.

MargotRobbie , to nostupidquestions in Why all of a sudden tech companies are not being favorable to their users?
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

It’s simple, despite what big tech companies are telling themselves, current algorithm for personalized online ads doesn’t actually work, because you can’t force people to be interested something just by shoving media in front of them.

Instead of realizing that people want genuine human engagement to tell them HOW your product can help solve their problems, we are at the phase where tech companies double down on their incorrect assumption and thinks to make people want things, they just need to shove more things people don’t want to see in front of them.

briongloid ,
@briongloid@aussie.zone avatar

Algo ads could be good, if they weren’t primarily advertising stuff to me after I already bought it.

I look up a specific type of product that isn’t consumable, buy it, then get ads for it for weeks.

MargotRobbie ,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

How many mattresses or tires can one person need?

That’s the problem with personalized algorithms, because they don’t understand what people actually needs.

(What people actually need is tickets to “Barbie”)

briongloid ,
@briongloid@aussie.zone avatar

The advertising companies, Google & Facebook, absolutely do understand this and are happy to mistreat small companies.

The worst part of using Google Search without uBlock is that if I’m just trying to get to a specific website without typing out the full html address, I have to scroll passed the top result which is an advert for the website I already typed.

Google charges companies for customers they already had.

Neirin_D ,

It’s even worse than that. The ad is often a fake version of the website you are looking for. Ublock protects you from phishing and malware.

briongloid ,
@briongloid@aussie.zone avatar

Very often do I have to bypass the wrong links as well for competitor services I wasn’t looking for, because I explicitly wrote the service I had chosen.

s_s ,

It’s even worse than that, Facebook and Google have been selling “impressions” that are actually bots for decades at this point.

DocMcStuffin ,
@DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world avatar

Long ago I was searching for a new printer then the printer ads started following me to different places on the Internet. Places that should not have known I was searching for a printer. I decided I wasn’t going to have any of that and installed an ad blocker.

Not sure how effective that will be in future. Pretty sure ads as content written by AI is going to be the hot new thing. And by hot new thing I mean thing that can die in a fire.

merc ,

Surely the fact that you bought a toilet recently means that you’re now a toilet enthusiast and will happily click on ads to add to your toilet collection!

briongloid ,
@briongloid@aussie.zone avatar

We hear you like toilets

zenhocky13 ,

I’d say synchronous targeted ads work very well. I.e. showing me ads when I am searching for something explicitly on Google or Amazon. Asynchronous targeted ads - yeah, less so.

nix , to nostupidquestions in So how long until the Fediverse is monetized?

Besides all the discussion of nonprofits and donations, fedi server hosts have way less overhead. They’re not generally trying to profit, so they only need to break even (or run a deficit small enough to deal with out of pocket). A corporation is trying to give 6 or 7 digit salaries to CEOs and/or shareholders. So they need to extract more than the cost of hosting.

Ryan213 OP ,
@Ryan213@lemmy.world avatar

“Generally not trying to profit” - but we’re all humans. If someone offered (hypothetical amount) $2M to “buy” an instance, which admins would sell?

Carol2852 ,
@Carol2852@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

But why would you as a user stay on that instance?

If you start seeing ads and you don’t want to, you move to another instance. If all instances start to serve ads and you don’t want to see ads, you have to start your own instance.

thawed_caveman ,

I think about this a lot. Lemmy fully deserves to have a lot of users, and a lot of users means a lot of opportunity to profit one way or the other, so the potential for profit-seeking behavior is there. So if we imagine a future where one instance has 500k users, it’s easy to imagine the owners trying to take it beyond the break even point and making it as profitable as possible. Anyone who puts themselves through the trouble of hosting an instance deserves to make a good living, but we don’t want predatory greedy policies.

The question is, how easy is it to migrate your account from one instance to the other? I haven’t tried yet

Robaque ,

I’d like to know that too. The solution I’ve seen mentioned is to just create your own instance to host your own account which is… easier said than done, lol.

It would be cool if we could keep offline backups of our accounts and “sync” them to an instance of our choosing. Migrating would be as simple as syncing up the backup to another instance. And importantly, it would be way easier than setting up one’s own linux server, most people wouldn’t even know where to start.

pelespirit ,
@pelespirit@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s a great idea, then each user owns their own info entirely.

Robaque ,

Is there any community suggestions instance? Wouldn’t mind making a post with a backups functionality request if one hasn’t been made yet 😅

Holodeck_Moriarty ,

But who would stay on an instance with ads or something when there are thousands of options?

Hell, I made accounts on the top handful of instances just for situations in which one goes down for maintenance, or the admins do something weird (like defederating from big communities).

nix ,

That’s true, an instance would be very tempted by that. I was referring more to the day to day, there’s no incentive to squeeze users.

merc ,

Also, a site like Reddit wants something like 99.9% availability: roughly 8 hours of downtime per year. Lemmy instances are probably satisfied with 99% availability: roughly 3 days of downtime per year. If one instance is down, but the rest of the fediverse is up, it’s a bit annoying, but not devastating. Users of that instance might have to create alt accounts on another fediverse instance, and certain communities would be offline for days. But, as long as the entire fediverse itself doesn’t go down, it’s not the same as a Reddit outage.

Getting that extra “9” of availability means having engineers on call, it means having a technical staff that creates and maintains monitoring systems, does capacity planning, runs disaster preparedness scenarios, etc. It’s expensive.

Some fediverse admins might run monitoring systems, either because they really care about their instance, or because doing it is interesting and fun. The ones that don’t might just have to do reactive maintenance when something breaks. But, because you’re only aiming for 2 nines, it doesn’t have to be a full time job.

0ddysseus , to sysadmin in Calling all /r/sysadmin reddit refugees!

Howdy. Not a sysadmin yet, but definitely a reddit refugee. Currently taking a break from changing passwords and running gpupdate to keep exploring this glorious neck of the interwebs

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