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gedaliyah , to til in TIL that in 2014, a photographer tried to copyright a monkey's selfie and sue Wikipedia for it.
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

This is actually a really famous and interesting copyright case that established some important bounds of copyright. How much of an artist’s intent is necessary to claim copyright? Can an artist set up a situation in which some creative product is produced?

There is actually a lot of animal photography that is dependent on the animal itself to trigger the camera, such as trail photos or even those cute photos of squirrels interacting with dollhouse furniture like tiny little humans. There is a lot of meticulous planning, experimentation, and patience that goes into “spontaneous” photographs.

ShepherdPie ,

The headline definitely makes it sound dumb, but this does seem like an interesting argument regardless of which side you fall on.

brbposting ,

Good points.

Suing Wiki ain’t chill but I do feel for somebody who purposely arranged to get a monkey to hold a camera - must’ve taken forever

graymess ,

This also set a huge precedent for legal cases around AI image generation, didn’t it? Since that also falls under “works not created by a human” and are therefore not copyrightable. We could have been dealing with a much bleaker AI art law situation than we have today because of this funny monkey photo case.

funbreaker , to til in TIL: Gamergate's have interesting hierarchy and can replace the queen
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I thought this was a shitpost at first. TIL

AllonzeeLV , (edited ) to til in TIL the USA is the only country to not have ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child

Don’t forget, our capitalists have been hard at work infecting the rest of the world with OUR greed disease. We’re the ones advocating other nations stop seeing their people as valued citizens and instead as capital livestock to be exploited mercilessly.

Child labor exists elsewhere out of desperate, struggling developing economies. We’re worse imho, because we’re doing it amid record profits, because its never enough, and our gluttonous pig oligarch owners ever demanding mooooaaaaaar, exploiting these kids whose schools they’ve already destroyed and stole the funding of through tax evasion and legislative tax policy capture.

We aren’t human to them, we’re capital livestock, which just makes our non-wealthy children capital veal.

theguardian.com/…/republican-child-labor-law-deat…

Zorque ,

Capitalism isn't exclusive to the US. It's definitely a major breeding ground for the worst aspects of it, but it's hardly unique in that regard.

520 ,

Capitalism, sure, but how about child labour in first world countries?

Zorque ,

If that's literally your only metric, maybe.

If there's no child labor, then everything is a-okay in your book?

Eldritch ,

It’s a good start at least. That is for sure.

520 ,

Oh you want more? How about:

number of medical bankruptcies?
Lack of workers rights?
The school to prison pipeline?
Lack of mental healthcare?

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

all or nothing eh? last time i checked we could do more than one thing at a time

AllonzeeLV , (edited )

Our brand of rigged market capitalism truly found it’s stride under Reagan’s deregulation giveaway. We’ve been exporting/advocating/bullying other developed nations to do the same ever since. There are tightly, tightly controlled, adequately taxed capitalist economies that focus on how REASONABLE capital incentive can benefit society (the point of any economy, that we’ve abandoned) that can work, like the Nordic model, but now we’re coming for that too, and we’ll do to them what we did to the UK and are doing to France.

It’s an easy sell. A faustian bargain. You just need a few people in the right positions of power. “Hey, YOU can live larger. You can live like a modern pharoah. Just sell out your countrymen. Do you like yachts? How about yachts the size of cruise ships?”

Zorque ,

And Margaret Thatcher was doing her own disassembly of worker's rights. They enabled each other, but one wasn't wholly dependent on the other for their actions.

AllonzeeLV , (edited )

We don’t have to coerce others directly, we appeal to the greed and powerlust of leaders of other markets, let their powerful do the coercion of their people and change their protections, and the global markets have a new workforce and resource market to exploit and extract value from. Everybody* wins.

Everybody that already holds power and/or meaningful capital anyway, and that’s all that matters. Fuck the livestock.

One way or another, the global capital market must continue to grow/metastasize… on a finite world, with finite resources, and a sole, shared, COMMUNal environment we all rely on from one breath to the next. Yeah…

assassinatedbyCIA ,

The US is the terrorist headquarters of capitalism.

originalucifer ,
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isnt something like 99.8% of the population financially incapable of holding capital/being called capitalists?

dylanmorgan ,

That’s the dirty secret of capitalism: it’s actually just feudalism with a different set of qualifications for membership in the nobility.

SupraMario ,

What children are being forced to work in dangerous places? Or missing school to do so? Is there a bunch of 4th graders missing school to go into the mines?

Eldritch ,

They’re literally getting dragged into machinery and killed on the job right now. Yes. Granted. They’re undocumented immigrants currently. So we’re not supposed to care about those. Inevitably though they will move on from abusing just those children.

AllonzeeLV ,

Honestly anyone who would ask “where were they born” when considering whether to care about children getting hurt or killed is an unredeemable monster.

Eldritch ,

I absolutely 100% agree. Unfortunately, that’s the type of person most Americans seem to worship.

AllonzeeLV ,

And emulate.

Yeah 😔

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

you should go check out half of congress. they seriously care about where you were born. for some reason. hell, they chose to let poor kids starve and they know they were born here.

GhostFence ,

They have children doing tobacco farming. Tobacco. Farming. 'nuff said right there. This country is trash.

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

IMHO, the root of the issue is that the GOP has been dogmatically opposed to international law for decades now. They don’t like having to answer to anyone other than themselves. And you need 2/3rd of the senate to ratify.

AllonzeeLV ,

It’s more than that, because Republican governors have been actively trying and succeeding in rolling back hard won child labor protection laws.

It’s not just about not having the foreigns telling them what to do, it’s because Republicans want children providing cheap labor to boost their stock portfolio. Here. Now.

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

Labor is only one of a multitude of things that this treaty addresses. Conservatives have been objecting to issues of sovereignty around its language on education, corporal punishment, criminal punishment, healthcare, sex and gender discrimination, etc.

It’s also worth noting that this treaty has carveouts to allow certain forms of child labor. Moreover, the US was able to ratify ILO 182 to agree to ban the worst forms of child labor.

I’m not saying child labor might not be a motivator for some of then conservatives opposed to ratifying this treaty, but there is a LOT more in there that US conservatives hate to relinquish control over, and when treaties are just focused on labor law, they have been easier to ratify.

This is more complex than just labor. The labor argument a fraction of the full story.

edgemaster72 , to til in TIL that the two people to have been the oldest when serving as POTUS are Joe Biden and Donald Trump
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

Trump

If he serves a 4-year term only

serves only 4 years

I hate that we have to consider that if he returns to office he will try to become dictator for life

amio ,

Again

EtherWhack ,
@EtherWhack@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t want an idiot martyr

dingus , (edited )

At least hes already old and fat. So hopefully if that happens, he won’t have much longer.

GigglyBobble ,

Old shitheads tend to be annoyingly resilient, unfortunately.

Land_Strider ,

Don’t hope the age part applies to evil people when it should and not very late. However, hoping the fat part gets him soon is actually a very good prospect.

SomethingBurger ,

Exhibit A: Kissinger

war , to til in TIL Peter Molyneux failed his first game so badly he started a baked bean export company, which got confused with a software firm and kickstarted his development career
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  • roguetrick ,

    I think it's real, just not the way its presented. I think he likely went to Amiga, talked his company up on how important they are in vague ways, and then jumped on whatever they said to promise that "yes, we can do that." That's his MO.

    Son_of_dad , to til in TIL that a short film named "100 Years" starring John Malkovich was shot in 2015, destined to be released in the year 2115

    And nobody will give a shit. This movie is just marketing for some booze anyways, and I doubt it’s even real

    Grimy ,

    It’s an interesting concept but 100 years is stupidly too much

    LarryTheMatador , to til in TIL that the two people to have been the oldest when serving as POTUS are Joe Biden and Donald Trump

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  • twack , (edited )

    This is the biggest problem right here. We have set up what was a false dichotomy into one that has now forced itself to be real. I don’t want Biden or Trump in office, but to vote for anyone other than Biden waters down the vote and gives Trump the ability to compete.

    My only choice is to vote “not Trump”. Biden gets my vote, but its not “for Biden”.

    Ramin_HAL9001 ,

    I might vote for Biden if he maintains any semblance of whatever little remains of “the rule of law” so that hopefully someone will press charges against him for aiding and abetting the genocide of the people of Gaza. Without that, there is no rule of law and there is no justice in this world.

    littlewonder , to technology in Wikipedia Admin Unmasks As Alt Account Of Admin Who Was Extremely Banned In 2015 To The Great Bewilderment Of Everyone

    This is making me miss the hobbydrama sub. I love this petty shit.

    idealotus ,

    Was thinking the same thing. I’d read a lengthy diatribe about Wiki drama (again).

    Carighan , to til in TIL that player behaviors to a software bug that created a pandemic in World of Warcraft had similarities to COVID-19 in the real world
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    I remember that my server - Emerald Dream EU - avoided having an outbreak for quite a long time. We knew what the problem was, and somehow it took a fair few hours for the first idiot to come along and do it for the lulz, before that everyone agreed to not carry the Blood Plague outside.

    Once it happened, it was only 5-6 hours to the downtime where they fixed the bug, but it essentially depopulated the major cities, anyways.

    steal_your_face , to mildlyinteresting in The Wiki's plot summary for "A Void", a book that (usually) omits a symbol vital to our vocabulary, also avoids that symbol
    @steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

    TLDR The whole book doesn’t have the letter e so the plot in the wiki doesn’t either

    gbzm ,

    Did you just ruin it to tldr an info that’s just a Bing away?

    stoicmaverick ,

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  • Sekoia ,

    You mean the engine owned by the guy who refuses to abide to the GDPR, thinks anti-suicide messages would be bias, wants to use AI to “remove bias from news articles” (and from reviews)? d-shoot.net/kagi.html goes into it, it’s a whole mess.

    Right now all search engines suck, unfortunately.

    stoicmaverick ,

    Wut? My office was not notified of this. Launching an nvestigation. Thanks for at least explaining the down vote.

    gbzm ,

    What is this discussion? Did y’all not grasp what was going on with that first Bing talk? I was just trying to stop you guys and gals using that symbol willy nilly; nobody’s actually apologizing for Bing

    stoicmaverick ,

    I honestly don’t know anymore dude. People are getting super down vote happy, and I don’t know why. In another thread, I said that you shouldn’t encourage people to have eating disorders, and it got downvoted, so I don’t know.

    AnUnusualRelic ,
    @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

    Well, back to searching by hand. This is going to take a while…

    Aatube OP , (edited )

    I will boosty all sayings in this post that persist in our plight and do l'contrary for individuals who don't. Ciao

    Sekoia ,

    Sorry, I cannot post as such for I am a fool!

    gbzm ,

    I was not. My point was just that this post has a sort of linguistic playing going on that that first tldr didn’t follow, but you didn’t also so… I don’t know why I try. I just found it fun.

    PoolloverNathan , (edited )

    Wait, what’s wrong with that char? It’s just a normal char, why can’t I post it?

    Variation: unwittingly posted said char

    southsamurai , to til in TIL about Eugene Debs, a 1920 Socialist candidate who ran for President while jailed in Federal prison for sedition, receiving 3.4% of the vote at the time. He promised to pardon himself if elected.
    @southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Pointless tangential story incoming!

    I first heard of Mr Debs via Kurt Vonnegut.

    He wrote a book called Hocus Pocus. I saw it in the grocery store of all places (they used to put books in the end shelves at the checkout lines), and the name seemed cool, so I begged my mom to get it. I had gotten Guards! Guards! the same way lol.

    It was my introduction to Vonnegut.

    But the main character was named Eugene Debs Hartke. So I discovered both Vonnegut and socialism at the same time.

    But it was one quote that stood out to me and still guides a lot of my thinking, "While there is a lower class, I am in it; while there is a criminal element, I am of it; and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.

    That shit is real. That, to me, is the essence of what humans should keep in mind at all times. That we are no stronger than the least of us, and if we do not lift each other up, we all fall.

    I’ve said a version of the idea in other ways since reading the quote in hocus pocus because I have this burning rage against bigotry. It’s this way of thinking I can’t shake, that as long as bigoted slurs exist, then I am of that group that is slurred. There’s a specific slur that got thrown around back when I was a bouncer and worked for a drag club, I’m sure you can guess what slur that is. That’s the one I first used the paraphrased quote with.

    Anyway, Mr Debs, to me, exhibited everything that socialism is supposed to be, but very rarely lives up to. I’d be proud to share a cell with him.

    PrincessLeiasCat ,

    You might like the book “American Midnight” by historian Adam Hothschild. Came out last year and all about the shit that went down in the US between 1917-1921.

    Debs is talked about quite a bit and he is well regarded. It was how I learned about him and I just finished the book this week. It’s absolutely fantastic and also yes, absolutely fucking terrifying.

    It’s nuts that we just kinda gloss over that time period in history. It also shows that some of the worst mindsets of today regarding things like immigration, unions, censorship/freedom of speech (the real kind, done by the government. Not the whiny cancel culture shit), prisons, etc, the list goes on, have not changed a bit in 100 years. And we’re still fighting the same battles and blaming all the bad things on all the wrong people.

    Anyway, book was fantastic, cannot recommend it enough, and now as a result I’m reading “The Gospel of J. Edgar Hoover” by Lerone A. Martin because I realized how little I knew about that asshole other than he was an asshole and FBI stuff.

    southsamurai ,
    @southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Thanks! I’ve been looking for a non fiction read :)

    Shardikprime ,

    That would be incredible. Most times I discuss with leftists there is always this extreme need they have to put everyone down in whichever way they can, be it financial, moral or intellectual. This speaks to me as virtue signaling and seems like an “special case” ideological stand point (in which no fault exists, with no self criticism whatsoever nor accountability) which basically puts me and others off of the hope of there existing any common ground with leftists

    Drusas ,

    Being able to pick out a book made me love going to the grocery store as a kid.

    gatelike , to til in TIL Alice Walton (Walmart heir) killed a pedestrian in a driving accident and was never charged. She has also been arrested for DUI twice but never charged.

    fuck this, how would you feel if the pedestrian was your family. how do people deal with tragedy like that without… losing the will to be civil?

    Igotz80HDnImWinning ,

    Wonder what the French would do?

    TubeTalkerX ,

    Burn it all down?

    WarmSoda ,

    People like this have money. That creates a barrier between them and "other"people. With enough money you never have to think about anyone below the line.

    yoz OP ,

    True that

    dismalnow ,
    @dismalnow@kbin.social avatar

    And this is why I dislike the idiotic temporarily embarrassed billionaires most of all. They're just looking for a way to get away with all of their shitty impulses.

    xuxebiko ,

    The problem is not them having money. The problem is they're treated differently because they have money. As if laws don't apply to them just because they have money. Their enablers are the problem.

    scarabic ,

    Sadly I’ll bet this happens a lot and it is ultimately decided that it was an accident, so there is no one to blame. Honestly if I was the family I might hope for that outcome because otherwise I would love the rest of my life consumed with hatred for someone rather than seeing it as just fate.

    Meltbox ,

    To be honest I don’t know. I’m continuously surprised by how few politicians and rich people are shot by people they have wronged.

    Like if it was your only kid or something I don’t know how you hold yourself back in the face of this kind of injustice.

    anywho , to til in TIL the term Redneck likely originated from the sunburned red neck of those working in fields.

    Some people have great trouble splitting words into their component parts, as if their internal GPT just stores everything as single token like “redneck”, so they never split it semantically or conceptually into red+neck.

    el_bhm ,

    Germans trembling

    anywho ,

    I guess Germans do need to be particularly good at this, based on the mega words they can have.

    On the other hand, when listening to American Youtubers read something onscreen, it seems like they use some internal rainbow table to look up prefixes of words, and then just autocomplete the word based on probability.

    I say this because during reading they often substitute words with some that sound similar, but are not semantically close to what is written.

    WolfLink ,

    Apparently that’s how some people are taught to read. Just kinda guess the word without actually reading it.

    Pilon23 ,

    A man who gers! Did i get it right?

    SorteKanin , to world in Liquidation of Wikimedia RU [Wikipedia Signpost]
    @SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

    This is really sad.

    chardiemacdennis , to til in TIL Peter Molyneux failed his first game so badly he started a baked bean export company, which got confused with a software firm and kickstarted his development career

    So we’re going back to posts about beans now?

    Tronn4 ,

    Lemmy taketh, Lemmy giveth

    dbilitated OP ,
    @dbilitated@aussie.zone avatar

    feel free to post your own content. also what do you mean?

    SpaceNoodle ,

    You must be new here

    snek_boi ,

    A couple of months ago there was a period in which there were plenty of posts about beans. The posts and the comments built up the idea that the Lemmy identity was tied to beans. I guess that died down a bit.

    GONADS125 ,

    It was a running joke about shitposting, hence posting beans (fuel for shitposting).

    I’m not a fan of lame ass memes and puns so I blocked all those communities. No beans for me.

    Sotuanduso ,

    What a beankill. Err, buzzkill.

    theragu40 ,

    Your indignation at someone calling out the beanery of your post is somehow even funnier than the serendipitous inclusion of beans in the post. All around A+, bravo.

    dbilitated OP ,
    @dbilitated@aussie.zone avatar

    you’re absolutely welcome!

    Cryophilia ,

    what do you bean?

    troglodytis ,

    Beans are a natural source of protein -Brak

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