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bulwark , to technology in 1% rule: 1% of users actively create new content, while the other 99% only lurk.

I’m a lurker, but I’m going to try to participation more.

scifu ,

Yep. Lurker here. In the sense that I upvote but don’t post or create content. I am just not witty enough to make a joke or creative enough to write a long winded content. But I do what I do and I think it’s alright.

Schmedes ,
@Schmedes@lemmy.world avatar

The nice thing about this right now is that you don’t need to feel witty or creative to post stuff as long as it fits the community you’re in. There aren’t enough people to compete with for posts to get attention, that’s the main attraction to smaller social media environments: you feel like you matter more.

trouser_mouse ,
@trouser_mouse@lemmy.world avatar

I am a talentless fool posting nonsense, don’t let your lack of wit or creativity hold you back!

Touching_Grass ,

Exactly. Just fart into the wind like the rest of us.

Cmot_Dibbler ,

God, the rare few times i put any time and effort into making something it would just get shit on. Lol

olimario ,

This is largely a reddit-discourse problem that evolved over time as the site devolved into witty one-liners and adversarial comments for engagement.

I’m hoping people push back hard against this across various fediverse instances because it just makes the internet a worse place and discourages contributions from would-be posters/commenters.

People should feel excited to post without feeling the need to look over their post/comment 100 times to pre-emptively guess what all attack angles someone is going to respond to in a post as harmless about liking the way roses smell.

Buddahriffic ,

In a threaded site like Reddit or Lemmy, one liners and higher effort comments can coexist. I enjoyed the joking around, sing alongs, even the puns. Then you keep scrolling or collapse the thread and you can get to the more serious replies.

As long as the comments are in good faith or good fun and try to add something, I approve of them.

It was the bad faith stuff, people trying to compete in the victim Olympics (not saying that victims shouldn’t speak up, I mean the people who are just looking for the next thing to be offended about), and attention whoring that I didn’t like. Also the people obsessed with tying every conversation back to what group of people they hate or their political position or the political position they hate. Though I guess on the bright side, those ones did make me feel better about the possibility the world will end soon.

bannedfromapplebees ,

I felt the same on reddit. So far lemmy seems more positive

miles OP ,

you’re doing it right now! 😀 how does it feel?

Apollo_Katelo ,

I gotta pee

Apollo_Katelo ,

I’ll lurk on your content.

dedale , to til in TIL of Dead Internet Theory that asserts the Internet now consists almost entirely of bot activity and automatically generated content
@dedale@kbin.social avatar

It's not just a theory. Anyone who've seen internet before 2015 knows the difference.

An unforeseeable and unfortunate side effect of humans interacting daily with bots masquerading as humans is that we mimic them.

And that we lose our ability to see humanity in others. Being flooded with machines who cannot understand or be touched, influenced, which whom we cannot empathize changed the way we see our fellow humans.

I don't think there's any coming back from that. Hopefully there's a way forward, now that AI's aren't a big secret anymore.

borkcorkedforks ,

It was far more tinfoil a few years ago. Especially when the "bots" were far more likely to just be people paid to post things from a script. Back then there just wasn't much evidence of the tech being that good. Like human made content on YouTube has a noticable difference from generated content and that generated content probably still had some human help.

It has more legs today with chatgpt or similar tech. It clearly been used for pumping out crap articles and videos or being used for automating the early steps in scamming. There are even a few AI generated influencers and a few chatgpt based things designed to simulate a relationship.

teft , to til in TIL that because of the amount of time it saves, the washing machine has been called "the greatest invention of the industrial revolution.” Others have considered it a key driver of women’s liberat...
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

Anyone who has ever washed clothes by hand understands this. That shit is difficult af.

athos77 ,

I remember watching some BBC documentary and they said that whenever a household for enough money that they started to buy appliances, the first one they bought was almost always a clothes washer.

smashboy ,

And to think, back in those days people also often had 5-10 children. Imagine the amount of laundry 💀

Ghost33313 ,
@Ghost33313@kbin.social avatar

Been there. A freshening up wash isn't bad, but if you have a stain, forget it you will be cursing.

crunchypotat77 , (edited ) to til in TIL that approximately 70% of the world’s vegetarians live in India.

Not surprised. Vegetarianism has been the default in India for ages.

They’ve greatly explored the spice palette and can make pretty much anything taste amazing.

EDIT: some clarification. I did not mean to imply that majority of Indians are vegetarian. No. Majority do eat meat.

But in most parts of India they do not eat meat on a daily basis. It’s typically a once a week kind of thing. And yes, I’ve observed this among friends and colleagues from practically all parts of India. Even the most fierce non-veg fiends will typically do a weekend bash, but eat regular roti sabzi, dal chawal rest of the week.

givesomefucks ,

But they also have one of (probably the) highest levels of food insecurity, for kids and adults.

Most can’t even afford beans, very few could afford meat if they even wanted to.

kvothelu ,

they also have world’s biggest food security program. nutrition is improving and they also lifted huge percentage of their population from below poverty.

xuxebiko ,

Yeah, no. 70% of Indians are non-vegetarian. Rice &/ rotis are the important part of the meal and stuff like dal & vegetable are standard being both cheaper & easier to cook. Meat, fish, eggs, etc. being more expensive are curried or fried as side-dishes to make a little go a long way.
A dish like pot roast or meat loaf would just be too expensive as main course for most. And we do love to get creative with our spices.

crunchypotat77 ,

I merely said that vegetarianism was the default. I’m not saying that majority are vegetarians.

What i meant was that most families do not eat meat on a daily basis. And not because they can’t afford it. Most average families eat chicken once a week, while the rest of the week is all vegetarian food.

All what i said still stands. Even though 70% of people do eat meat, they don’t do so on a daily basis.

Source: am Indian, with dozens of friends and colleagues who do eat meat. They do not eat meat daily.

klemptor , to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?
@klemptor@startrek.website avatar

Bohemian Rhapsody

Dearth , to til in TIL the term Redneck likely originated from the sunburned red neck of those working in fields.

I thought it was from union miners wearing red bandanas during fights against Pinkertons

someguy3 OP ,

Looks like use for farmers predates coal miners’ bandanas.

Dagwood222 ,

They took a negative and turned it into a rallying cry.

Same as with “Yankee Doodle.” Yankee was a derogatory term for Americans, because many were of Dutch origin. “Jan” was a popular Dutch name. Doodle mean, well doo-doo.

Funny how some derogatory terms get embraced and others don’t.

Nerd used to be a big insult. So was ‘porn.’

acockworkorange , to til in TIL that in 2014, a photographer tried to copyright a monkey's selfie and sue Wikipedia for it.

Most sane PETA activism.

vormadikter , to lemmyshitpost in Lloyds Bank coprolite is the largest palaeofaeces yet discovered

…and here I am, thinking the biggest piece of shit was Bono…

m.youtube.com/watch?v=hbBrnEU-ZUc

usualsuspect191 , to til in TIL almost all vanilla plants are pollinated by hand.

Man, the word “vanilla” has become so ubiquitous with “plain, unaltered, default” that I was really confused at first.

IrateAnteater , to til in TIL about Swatch Internet Time, a decimal time system that has no time zones.

I feel like trying to switch to this would cause more problems than it would solve. If you switch to this time system, what do you do about all the other units of measure that include a time component? Either everything has to change, or you have to start using two different time systems.

Noodle07 ,

Something something xkcd new standard

onion ,

What sort of cursed units do you use that have dates in them

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Dates? Swatch replaces seconds, minutes, and hours with .beats. Metres per second (used in scientific contexts), minutes per kilometre (used by runners), and kilometres per hour (used in most other contexts) would all be unusable under Swatch time.

onion ,

If we were using beats, it would be meters per .beat I guess. Many physical constants would be different numbers but that’s about it

wjrii ,
@wjrii@kbin.social avatar

...but that’s about it

That's not how people work. You think Americans are stubborn about our customary units? Try damn-near everyone (including many Americans) with SI.

Time in particular is unlikely to be significantly reworked because you can only push the inconsistencies out so far. So you divide the day into a thousand beats. Great. A year is still not an integer number of days, and weeks and months are only loosely based on physical (lunar) phenomena at all.

bdonvr ,

(measure) per (new measure of time)

It would be very inconvenient at first, but it doesn’t change the math.

ArbitraryValue , to til in TIL the USA is the only country to not have ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child

These high-minded treaties don’t actually mean anything - there’s no enforcement mechanism and countries with a much worse human-rights record than the USA have signed them without consequences. IMO it’s better not to sign them than it is to pretend that signing does any good and lend unearned legitimacy to those other countries.

cashews_best_nut OP ,

Ah yes the oft-used American Exceptionalist attitude of “we’re too good to bind ourselves to treaties like this”.

Tale as old as time. It’s why the US isn’t a member of the ICJ and many other international treaties. King’s don’t follow rules - they make them!

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

acab and the u.s. is the worlds police force for hire. it tracks.

ArbitraryValue ,

The US is a member of the International Court of Justice - every country in the United Nations is. Are you thinking of the International Criminal Court?

Other than that, my answer is “yes but that’s not a bad thing”.

cashews_best_nut OP ,

Why is it a good thing?

ArbitraryValue ,
  1. The actions of an international court will inevitably be political.
  2. The countries that are the worst human rights violators will never voluntary accept the authority of the court.

In that context, why should the USA give other, potentially hostile countries power over itself? It might have been worthwhile if it meant everyone had to follow the rules but in practice it would just give countries opposed to US foreign policy a tool for interfering without giving the US anything useful.

(My general view is that the US has made many very harmful mistakes but the era of American hegemony has still been one of remarkable global peace and prosperity. Like democracy, it’s the worst system except for everything else that has been tried. Now we’re seeing serious challenges to this hegemony and if they succeed, the world will get worse for almost everyone, not just for Americans. So if you think the US does more harm than good, we’re unlikely to come to an agreement.)

Edit: accidentally deleted, reposting.

kugel7c , (edited )

The problem is that we need to for many reasons transition to an international order of democratic cooperation instead of economic and military domination. And if the US can never accept this kind of shared and cooperative approach foreign policy of everyone is going to be forever dragged towards this kind of zero sum bullshit we have at the moment. Even though it’s obvious that foreign policy doesn’t have to be zero sum.

Even if other countries are potentially less honest with their implementation of global treaties, even a relatively slow movement there and maybe a more thorough movement in the US makes everyone better off.

The only way to actually foster a cooperative relationship is to make yourself vulnerable, otherwise it’s just coercion and power not cooperation. And yes if you get hurt too much maybe you’ll have to leave again, but this pessimistic outlook from the get go is certainly never going to lead to the changes we obviously need.

How do we solve things that require global attentio and accountability, like climate change, with an increasingly hostile and isolationist country calling the shots on decisions about global economic matters.

Simply put if I want to live in a world somewhat resembling the current one in 60 years, American collapse or integration into global democracy is a necessity.

Also calling a country that has been at war for 80+% of it’s history a protector of global peace seems a bit questionable. Similarly I don’t think anyone can conclusively say that the US has done more or less harm than good. But by that same nebulous metric shouldn’t China hold that same title, as well as the Soviets, the British empire, the Spanish empire,the Romans ?

I would expect almost everyone to feel more ambiguously about the later list than the US, but both the US and empires of the past are exactly what they’ve always been, a tool for those inside, especially the ones in power to increase their quality of life, while everyone outside gets to be exploited, integrated, subjected to rules that do harm, and be attacked, regime changed and so on. It’s not actually the US that is a problem it’s the US being a modern empire that’s the problem.

That the US tries to be a liberal democracy doesn’t really lessen it’s status as an empire, especially if the powers at be largely prevent it’s people to decide against the status quo of domination.

Almost by necessity the most powerful are the most harmful if there are no systems to prevent their harm, diffuse their power etc.

Ghostalmedia , (edited )
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

This perception arises from the fact that people think signing and ratifying are the same thing. They are not.

A treaty needs to be ratified to be legally binding, and ratification takes 2/3rd of the senate to OK it.

The executive branch signs international shit all the time, but they can’t get it through Congress. Which is why recent treaties lack teeth.

homura1650 ,

The treaty itself does not have any enforcement mechanism; however the US does. US courts recognize ratified treaties as having equal weight to laws passed the normal way Ratifying the Treaty would immediately make it federal law. The US has a robust enough legal system that the courts would the (over years of building up case law) determine exactly what that means.

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

This.

A treaty is a three step process. Draft, sign, ratify. This made it to step two, not step three for the US.

sachamato , to til in TIL a Canadian from Greece took an American version of an Italian dish and added tropical fruit to it and called it a Hawaiian pizza.

I go to Italy often just to eat real Italian food. I understand that for Italians, the hawainana pizza is an aberration, like many other things if not cooked as they traditionally do. And I respect it, because it’s a key part of their culture. Still, I have a right to eat and like whatever I want, so I also expect respect on that sense. Some people will do this and some others won’t. I think it’s a personal choice to decide respecting others opinions.

supercriticalcheese ,

They don’t have to serve you what you want if it’s not on the menu, they can try to accommodate if they really want but that’s about it.

But if you don’t have the ingredients they cannot really do that can they.

Sagifurius ,

I get that shit ALL the time. I have 34 wing flavours, a number of them address the sweet n savoury/sour thing I personally detest. I don’t carry the disgusting bulk sweet n sour sugar sauce common to this region and continually get people staring at the 34 flavours and and ask “do you have honey mustard or sweet n sour”? No. I don’t. That’s not what I’m doing here, if I had that, it would be listed. Literally every other place has that, I’m fucking trying to impart some taste to the region no matter how miniscule.

Guntrigger ,

I enjoy that this rant started out like we should all know that you have a wing restaurant.

Tristaniopsis ,

Traditional schmaditional. They never had tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, corn or a bunch of other things until Meso-America was ransacked.

masterspace ,

Discovering that tomatoes were new world fruit really torpedoed any chance of me respecting Italian traditions

Tristaniopsis ,

Well… a tradition’s gotta start sometime.

Look at that fucking Elf on the Fucking Shelf shit. It’s marketing tag on the box is (or was) “a tradition”.

Yeah. A tradition for ONE fucked up family who then cashed in HARD and forced their sick gaslighting on the gullible public. /rant

Pooptimist ,

They make pizza dulce with Nutella, so I can get my pizza with pineapple

Chickenstalker , to til in TIL a Canadian from Greece took an American version of an Italian dish and added tropical fruit to it and called it a Hawaiian pizza.

Pizza is American. They perfected it and deserves the full credit. Italians can cry with their hands.

RegalPotoo ,
@RegalPotoo@lemmy.world avatar

Describing American pizza and Italian pizza as being the same thing is imperialism

lvxferre ,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

<span style="color:#323232;">Aeneas and his chiefs,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">with fair Iulus, under spreading boughs
</span><span style="color:#323232;">of one great tree made resting-place, and set
</span><span style="color:#323232;">the banquet on. Thin loaves of altar-bread
</span><span style="color:#323232;">along the sward to bear their meats were laid
</span><span style="color:#323232;">(such was the will of Jove), and wilding fruits
</span><span style="color:#323232;">rose heaping high, with Ceres' gift below.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Soon, all things else devoured, their hunger turned
</span><span style="color:#323232;">to taste the scanty bread, which they attacked
</span><span style="color:#323232;">with tooth and nail audacious, and consumed
</span><span style="color:#323232;">both round and square of that predestined leaven.
</span><span style="color:#323232;">“Look, how we eat our tables even!” cried
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Iulus, in a jest.
</span>

This is from a translation of the Aeneid, published in 19 BCE.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/pompeii-pizza-close.jpg

and this is from Pompeii, buried in 79 CE.

Pizza is at the very least Roman, if not older. (Potentially Greek.)

And before someone mentions tomatoes, pizza bianca is a thing.

Stovetop ,

Admittedly it doesn’t take much creative thinking to come up with the idea of “bread with stuff on it”.

It’d be pretty different from what we think of as pizza today though with no tomatoes or mozzarella.

lvxferre ,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

That’s why I mentioned pizza bianca / white pizza - it doesn’t include passata or tomato sauce, but it’s still pizza.

Cheese being added to the pizza is a bit trickier, but I’m tempted to say that the Romans already did this; they were big fans of cheese, and the white stuff in the afresco looks a lot like sheep cheese for me. And, well, cheese melting over hot bread is kind of obvious. Plus there are claims that mozzarella itself backtracks to those times, although it was originally made with sheep milk.

Stovetop ,

Likely not used on pizza though, I’d imagine. But a cheese like feta, which would have been more common, would probably still taste great.

lvxferre ,
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

I could also picture them spreading some moretum (crushed cheese with herbs and olive oil, it’s rather tasty) over the dough. The white thing in the afresco is certainly not moretum as the later is green, but frankly that doesn’t sound too far from what I’ve seen people adding to pizza bianca.

Jknaraa , to linux in TIL that operating system Linux is an example of anarcho-communism

It’s actually a really good analogy, because it can only run on fully-capitalist hardware.

atomkarinca ,

which was made possible thanks to public funding.

kebabslob ,

This not the dunk you think

0xb ,
@0xb@lemmy.world avatar

Amazing how every single part of your comment is so wrong.

It’s actually a really good analogy,

Not an analogy, an example. Those two are different things.

because it can only run on

No, it can run on many things, including open source collaborative hardware that exists.

fully-capitalist hardware.

What the hell even is that? Fun fact: until very recently most of the computer hardware was made in communist China. I know, scary. And now that a lot of effort is being made to get that production out of there, those efforts are being sponsored by public money to an incredible degree. Billions of dollars of taxes (you know, community resources) are being poured into that because big corporations are the biggest lovers of government handouts.

Jknaraa ,

No, it can run on many things, including open source collaborative hardware that exists

Please explain to me where this “open source collaborative” Internet hardware is on which you run your bitcoin network.

ji59 ,

Never heard of RISC-V?

Aux ,

Only RISC-V spec is open. Hardware is still proprietary and is using proprietary cores manufactured using proprietary tech processes. 1% open source in the product doesn’t make the product fully open source.

explodicle ,

Why does it matter which software we’re running? Running a Bitcoin node on something comes right after running Doom on it.

aniki ,

It’s behind by decades of capitalists making the industry a festering shithole.

voidMainVoid ,

Fun fact: until very recently most of the computer hardware was made in communist China. I know, scary.

China hasn’t been communist in a long time.

axont ,

What in the hell is capitalist hardware? Does my computer own a factory?

BlueMagaChud ,
@BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net avatar

how many yards of linen for my dust filters?

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

What is “fully-capitalist hardware?”

huf ,

it sanctions other CPUs and strong arms them into giving up their cycles

Jknaraa ,

Same sort of deal as “anarcho-communist” operating systems. @@

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

That answers absolutely nothing. Do you think Capitalists designed hardware, or Engineers?

Jknaraa ,

Do you think Capitalists designed hardware, or Engineers?

I’m just gonna leave this quote as is, so you can think about it.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

I have. Engineers, ie workers, designed the hardware. It was not the Capitalists that owned the companies doing the design.

bear ,

It really seems like you didn’t have an actual argument, you just wanted to whine and duck away from any pushback.

axont ,

Are you saying capitalists and engineers are one in the same? Maybe sometimes, but it’s not capital that makes things, it’s labor.

mindbleach ,

How the hell did you pick lemmy.ml?

Jknaraa ,

Because people aren’t one dimensional objects.

mindbleach ,

And that excuses a total lack of awareness.

Jknaraa ,

I don’t need to excuse your imagination.

mindbleach ,

Case in point. You think quoting an argument and sneering is a counterargument. Obviously, because you don’t know the first thing about labor theory of value.

Someone asked if you think capitalists or engineers did the engineering, and you revealed you don’t understand the question.

Jknaraa ,

You are once again building a flawed model of the dynamic at play here in an attempt to ease the discomfort you feel from encountering something that doesn’t make sense to you (why did I choose to join this community?). I’m not even attempting to build any counterarguments because the responses I’ve gotten don’t even attempt to understand what I’ve said in the beginning. To be utterly frank I just lack respect for people who think of themselves as any flavour of anarchist while still dreaming of a system as thoroughly rigid as the artificially created Internet. You pretend to hate the system while desperately trying to invent excuses for continuing to make yourself at home within it.

mindbleach ,

No dude, you demonstrably said ‘I’m going to repeat your argument so you can think about it.’ Projecting some emotional state onto me is not gonna change how you fucked this up.

This is mockery. I am calling you ignorant.

I am trying to highlight how you joined an explicitly leftist server, whilst remaining aggressively unaware of… genuinely the first things people learn about leftism. So when you try smugly posturing your way out of a pointed question, you’re just revealing you know less than nothing.

To be utterly frank I just lack respect for people who think of themselves as any flavour of anarchist while still dreaming of a system as thoroughly rigid as the artificially created Internet.

Anarchists being naked hippies, of course, not organized laborers. The internet was mostly designed and operated by academics. It runs on half a century of “does this sound right?” collaborative standards. Whatever browser you’re reading this in has its origins in anti-monopolist diehards building better software out of spite.

None of which is even addressing the initial failure. Capital didn’t design your computer. Intel’s founders definitely did, but only because they were workers dissatisfied under Fairchild, who were in turn workers dissatisfied under Shockley. The early history of silicon valley is halfway to semiconductor co-ops.

At no point did shareholders build hardware.

drndramrndra ,

Well you solved that conundrum rightly. Now let’s go linch those dirty Apple and John Deere engineers. Since they’ve designed those machines, they must be the only responsible parties for designing them with their extreme anti-consumer and anti-repair policies. They must get commissions on every licensed repair or something, it’s definitely got nothing to do with capitalists putting restrictions on the design team in order to increase profits, nope…

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

You’re completely off on what I’m getting at. The idea of “Capitalist” hardware, as though the Capitalist did the labor, is wrong. Engineers are paid for their labor power, they don’t typically get royalties or anything of the sort, just like any other laborer.

Someone saying that FOSS software relies on Capitalist hardware is putting the Capitalist over the Engineer, as though the Capitalist created the hardware, and not the labor of the miners, assemblers, designers, engineers, and so forth, regardless of who owns the Capital the labor is done by the Workers. FOSS is agnostic to whoever owned the Means of Proruction of the hardware using or producing it.

Reil ,

Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and capitalist hardware.

Fire at will, commander.

Cowbee ,
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

No, not the Bootlicker Beam!

Jinxyface , to gaming in Nomic, one of the best concepts of a game I've seen

That concept immediately makes me think of the card game Fluxx.

Xariphon , (edited )

I learned to play Fluxx from Andy Loony years ago. Awesome guy, funny as hell. Now I wanna find my old decks...

Edit: You ever make any Fluxx Blanks?

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