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Im28xwa , to technology in HP printer USB port covered with warning sticker in hopes you won't use it | Boing Boing

Wtf is going on with printers market

Heavybell ,
@Heavybell@lemmy.world avatar

We let game publishers and adobe get away with charging infinite money for faux services so now everyone else wants to do the same.

Delphia ,

The market for people who NEED printers is shrinking. Last concert I went to I had the QR code ticket in my phone, I havent printed map directions in at least 15 years and I literally cannot remember the last item I needed to print at home.

But they also cant say “Oh well, we had a good 30 year run with home printers” they have to keep making more than last year, so they have to get increasingly predatory.

o_oli ,
@o_oli@lemmy.world avatar

I just don’t understand why people fall for it. Who is subscribing to this nonsense? I would never purchase or use something like that when there are still other options available. It should have been a dead idea from day 1.

phase_change ,

Because most people aren’t technical enough to understand there are alternatives, particularly if those alternatives involve removing a scary label telling you not to.

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

My parents who are in their 80s only use their printer for printing out the daily crossword puzzle. I made the mistake of getting them to give up their newspaper delivery and just read the paper online, not realizing it would force me to maintain a printer for them. But at least I was able to get them a cheap Brother inkjet where I can refill the cartridges with a syringe.

Sir_Simon_Spamalot ,

Why not the laser one instead?

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

Because like once a year they also want to copy a color photo or two.

phareous ,

I got a color brother laser and am loving it. No regrets and it was affordable. When the drum, etc. reaches end of life i will have to decide if it’s worth repairing or just getting another printer. Also changing 4 toners is expensive but probably less than the ink carts since you don’t do it very often. Also never have to worry about the ink drying out, cleaning printer heads, etc.

Proweruser ,

If they print every day it’s fine. Inkjets really suck if you don’t print for a while. Then the nozzles dry out and clog and then you have a mess on your hand. As long as it’s not HP you are good.

Techmaster ,

My parents play crosswords on their phones and tablets. You might try that.

MuffinHeeler ,

I haven’t had a printer since early 2020 when I was last in the office. Sometimes I definitely miss it. But not enough to buy one.

Since then, the only thing I’ve needed to print was a visa which said I must carry a printed copy, but at the border it was digitally attached to my passport, so turns out I didn’t need it at all.

lordmauve , to technology in Scarlett Johansson denied OpenAI the right to use her voice. They used it anyway.

I doubt they are using Johansson’s voice. I expect they need much more studio-quality training data than they would have for her.

The desire to create a “Her” might be real but explains why they chose a similar voice actress, made Sky the default, and continued to pursue Johansson to some day create the real thing.

Suspending the Sky voice looks guilty but it might be a temporary action while the legal team considers their response. There might be a non-zero risk of being found liable if there were directions in the voice casting process to seek a result comparable to Scarlet Johansson. You’d want to collect and assess correspondence to see if that’s a possibility, which might take a while.

adam_y ,
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

If only she was ever in a situation where her voice was professionally recorded.

HawlSera ,

Since when would an actress be in front of a camera?

CustodialTeapot ,

Wtf is this thinking.

Open Ai wouldn’t use something or someone without consent? There’s a plethora of lawsuits and evidence that they did that with pretty much every medium out there.

Thorny_Insight ,

Wtf is this thinking.

Dispassionate, intellectually honest analysis.

cbarrick ,

Fine tuning a general TTS model on a specific custom voice doesn’t require as much data as you think it does.

The hard part is building the foundational model that can be easily fine tuned. And OpenAI has already done that.

WanderingVentra , (edited )

They could easily make it based on publically available voice data, especially for an actress of her fame. That’s how they were able to create AI versions of Biden’s voice and other famous people.

That doesn’t mean they did, but your first sentence implies they couldn’t have, when they very easily could if they wanted to.

catloaf ,

That doesn’t make it legal, let alone ethical. As a performer, her likeness, including her voice, is protected by personality rights. There have been multiple lawsuits over soundalikes in the past.

WanderingVentra ,

Oh definitely. If they used her voice in that way, not okay at all. I’m not sure if they have because I keep seeing contradicting arguments, but if they did, 100% agree with you that just because it’s out there, doesn’t mean you can take it and profit on it.

Ilflish ,

Pursuing a voice to match that of “Her” is a very weird move considering the story it tries to convey

gnuplusmatt , to nottheonion in Nebraska governor signs executive order defining men as "bigger, stronger and faster"

So in Nebraska a two men with a measurable difference in size and strength in a relationship are actually heterosexual?

deweydecibel , to technology in Elon Musk’s ironic bot army exposed

Ironic call out of ai bots when using AI generated trash images like that.

rickyrigatoni ,

it’s what elon deserves though. i don’t want to see an actual picture of his ugly face.

QuarterSwede , to news in U.S. retailers admit they lied about shoplifting, retail crime again
@QuarterSwede@lemmy.world avatar

They’re all insured for these kinds of losses anyway (I used to work in big box retail operations).

wahming ,

Insurance isn’t going to cost less than what they’re losing. It just smooths out the losses and avoids any surprises.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

They’re self insured for this… and it’s priced into the products they sell.

quo ,

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  • FuglyDuck ,
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    they’re not paying premiums. there is no “insurance policy” to pay premiums. when a company self insures itself, what that means, is, they keep some capital on hand (or readily availible,) so that they can weather a problem.

    because they price the loss into the merchandise they sell, if they expect x% of the pallet to be stolen, and the reality is a bit higher, they dip into that fund to buy the next pallet, which, they then price at y% loss, and a bit more to compensate for the extra they lost on the first pallet. Maybe this time it was a bit low. so they go back to x% on the third.

    the costs are passed directly onto consumers with no insurance company meddling. because that would just be inefficient. they might have a clause in a policy against mass-loss if, for example, the entire store gets looted in a mass-theft or if the store somehow goes up in smoke or hit with a hurricane. but as a matter of normal operations, they’re not claiming insurance on every bit of lost product regardless the reason.

    indepndnt ,

    What do you suppose “self insured” means?

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for sticking it to big corporations, but we could just be honest about what we’re saying: I don’t care if shoplifting costs retailers money.

    You’re 100% right on the second point, though, they anticipate some amount of shrinkage when setting prices.

    quo ,

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  • QuarterSwede ,
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    And that’s a totally simplistic view of what I said. Overall, big box does well to keep theft down as to avoid paying. It’s all a big game.

    FontMasterFlex , to aboringdystopia in "I feel like I'm on a hamster wheel" — US cost of living has skyrocketed since 2020

    But I was told here yesterday that inflation is going down and I should be happy things are the way they are… /s

    dipshit ,

    I didn’t mention this to you. it must have been some other dipshit.

    Malfeasant ,
    corsicanguppy ,

    Think how it would be if inflation were to keep going up.

    FontMasterFlex ,

    Keep beating me please massa.

    mohammed_alibi ,

    Inflation is like acceleration. Acceleration going down means you are still speeding up, just at a lower rate. For prices to go down, we need DEFLATION!

    SuiXi3D ,
    @SuiXi3D@kbin.social avatar

    Inflation has gone down. Doesn’t mean the prices have. In fact they specifically keep going up, because it seems that literally every business has decided the only thing that matters is how much their CEO is worth.

    1847953620 ,

    So it hasn’t gone down in the sense of the actual purchasing power for the average person. Meaning price inflation.

    KinglyWeevil ,

    When every industry and consumer goods producer is a monopoly, market competition no longer exists so prices don’t really effect demand. Especially for inelastic goods like gas or food.

    NounsAndWords , to technology in Scarlett Johansson denied OpenAI the right to use her voice. They used it anyway.

    This is very much the type of case that settles out of court for an undisclosed amount of money.

    Skates ,

    It could be, if she wants it to be.

    It could also be the type of case where her lawyers stop openAI from ever using her voice again, if she wants that to be the case.

    Being rich opens up options. If openAI would be using my voice instead, they’d have a wildly less popular product but nobody to sue them for it, cause I’d be using my money to still dream about home ownership at some point before I die, not to hire lawyers or fight windmills.

    MrMcGasion ,

    To add to this, Scarlett Johansson took on Disney and they settled. And Disney is like the final boss of litigious companies (either them or Nintendo). If she has the same legal team for this, and they think she has a case against OpenAI, this could open the door for OpenAI to get rightfully clobbered for their tech-bro ignoring of copyright laws.

    MimicJar ,

    Obviously I don’t know what the details of he suit against Disney but the truth is Disney fucked up and they knew it.

    Disney tried to gain a few extra bucks at the cost of a legal battle with Johansson. If Disney won it would have been a clear signal that Disney is willing to screw over top talent for a few million dollars.

    Not to compare “Black Widow” to “Endgame”, but that’s squabbling over millions when billions are at stake.

    Looking at someone like Johansson that’s squabbling over millions when tens of hundreds millions are at stake. Contracts with top talent now take longer, top talent is a little less likely to work with Disney.

    It all but guaranteed a loss for Disney.

    The settlement was Disney’s way of saying “we fucked up”, and truth be told was probably at least partially responsible for Bob Chapek being replaced as CEO.

    Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,

    Or OpenAI are targeting a known litigious actress so that any competitors thinking of creating a business of celebrity-sound-alike are sufficiently dissuaded.

    Regulatory Capture

    Beaver , to news in After a vegan blue cheese won the Good Food Award, panicked dairy cheese makers forced the foundation to disqualify it
    @Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

    The dairy industry is so pathetic.

    MilitantVegan OP ,

    Agreed.

    mynameisigglepiggle ,

    They need to moooove over

    root_beer ,

    Now I have this goddamn commercial in my head, thirty years since I last heard it. Thanks.

    el_abuelo ,

    Maybe. But nothing in this story suggests that as “the dairy industry” did nothing more than disqualify a cheese made using non-GRAS ingredients.

    What’s pathetic is Big Vegan telling lies to try and discredit an ancient and valuable industry.

    MilitantVegan OP ,

    There’s nothing ancient or valuable about a relatively new industry that’s built on lies and unnecessary suffering and death for all.

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=roIWg4ntj9k&pp=ygUTZGFpcnkg…

    el_abuelo ,

    In the first 45 seconds of that video it says we’ve been consuming milk for 10,000 years - and yet you say it’s not ancient?

    MilitantVegan OP ,

    Compared to the other 90% of our evolutionary history? Not by a longshot.

    nutritionfacts.org/…/flashback-friday-the-problem…

    el_abuelo ,

    I meant ancient as in ancient Greeks, not whatever obscure meaning of the word you’re using.

    Beaver ,
    @Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

    Lmao you’re calling me one vegan big compared to a multi billion dollar industry assaulting and separating mothers from babies.

    nixcamic , to news in Trump: Civil War didn't need to happen, could have been "negotiated"

    I mean technically yes, the South could have negotiated a surrender any time they wanted.

    rosymind ,

    I wish Lemmy had a way to high-five people.

    BenLeMan , to news in Trump: Civil War didn't need to happen, could have been "negotiated"

    That’s pretty much what Lincoln tried to do with his inaugural speech after several states had seceded already. He tried to talk them down and promised that the North would not interfere with their life heavy-handedly but that insurrection was too serious for him to ignore. And then they stormed Fort Sumter and forced his hand. He didn’t even commit to the cause of abolishing slavery until the third year of the war.

    roguetrick , to news in Manosphere grifters misuse evolutionary psychology to promote anti-feminist views

    Not new. Biotruth bros have been an idiotic scourge on the internet since Usenet I'm sure. They were widespread when I was on somethingawful I know.

    swope ,
    @swope@kbin.social avatar

    Found the Omicron Male! /s

    Fades ,

    Most definitely. The difference is the massive uptick in connectivity for nearly everyone around the globe. These monsters can reach farther and faster than ever before relatively speaking

    TedJ70 , to news in School board member blames "Holy Spirit" for making her share a Nazi meme
    @TedJ70@aussie.zone avatar

    The other holy trinity: the father, the son, and Adolf Hitler

    MonkderZweite , to technology in HP printer USB port covered with warning sticker in hopes you won't use it | Boing Boing
    mechoman444 ,

    Remember it’s not cloud storage it’s just somebody else’s computer.

    johannesvanderwhales , to news in After a vegan blue cheese won the Good Food Award, panicked dairy cheese makers forced the foundation to disqualify it

    I dunno, I think I’m on the side of “it might taste great but if it’s vegan it doesn’t meet the definition of cheese.”

    Corkyskog ,

    So I don’t necessarily agree in general, it depends on how you define milk… If you curdle a liquid and it becomes cheese like, it’s probably cheese? Unless milk can only come from mammals/animals.

    johannesvanderwhales ,

    I would, in fact, definite milk as only coming from a mammal. Coconut milk or soy milk or nut milk or whatever else may superficially resemble milk but they’re pretty fundamentally not the same sort of substance as milk.

    WldFyre ,

    We’ve called those liquids “milk” for over a thousand years

    piecat ,

    Magnesium hydroxide is also known as “milk of magnesia”. Must be milk!

    GreyEyedGhost ,

    There are texts going back to the 8th century talking about almond milk. That ship sailed before Columbus.

    accideath ,

    Just because it’s called the same, doesn’t mean it generally is. In Germany we have something called “Scheuermilch”, which literally translates into “abrasion milk”. The only property it shares with milk or even plant-milk is its colour. It’s a cleaning product. You could of course define milk more broadly as “white liquid”…

    Fun fact on the side: almond milk & co. are not allowed to be called milk on the packaging in germany. They’re usually called something along the lines of “almond drink”. Reason being because it might confuse the buyer. Scheuermilch is still allowed to be called Scheuermilch though and coconut milk is still coconut milk. So according to our government, apparently, milk can be any white liquid unless it’s a plant based substitute for cow milk. Then it’s something entirely different.

    GreyEyedGhost ,

    So it’s arbitrary except for the whitish color. So who do you think is pushing for the name changes, because we’ve been doing this for 1200 years now. I expect someone doesn’t want to have to put dairy or cow on their labels. Goat milk, after all, is still unquestionably milk and is still called goat milk.

    MilitantVegan OP ,

    There was a time when the “definition” of marriage was a union between only one amab and afab person. Definitions change.

    Wogi ,

    Bro, come on man. I don’t give a fuck what you call cheese but likening dairy to sexual preference discrimination is a bit much.

    Beaver ,
    @Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

    Not its a good comparison.

    TubularTittyFrog ,

    didn’t you know that vegans are an oppressed minority? the dairy industry is their oppressor?

    MilitantVegan OP ,

    There are forms of discrimination that happen to vegans, but more importantly, it’s the non-human animals who are being oppressed.

    shani66 ,

    Just noticed the name and lmao

    MilitantVegan OP ,

    The lgbtq+ communities and vegans are both seeking justice in their own areas of concern, so it’s most definitely not extreme to compare the two.

    Wogi ,

    It’s extreme. The fact that you can’t see that it is undermines your entire argument. You’re not doing yourself any favors by saying that vegan cheese is as oppressed as gay people have been. No one’s being dragged behind a truck because they presented vegan cheese as a dairy product. No one’s shouting slurs at you.

    You alienate people who might otherwise have agreed with you.

    As an example, look at the other end of the spectrum using exactly the same, ridiculous logic. Selling vegan cheese is legal. Selling people was also once legal.

    You really believe in veganism and that’s great. I’m happy for you. But punch in your weight class my dude. Some people think vegan blue cheese is better, but it lost a competition for not technically being cheese. Some people think chili has beans, but since 1967 beans have been strictly forbidden from ICS cookoffs but the people’s choice competitions strictly require them. There are reasonable parallels to be drawn there.

    There is no reasonable parallel between vegan cheese in a cheese cookoff, and actual hatred of LGBTQ+ people

    Emma_Gold_Man ,

    You’re straw manning their argument. They aren’t comparing the oppression of LGBTQIA+ folk to the oppression of cheese. The comparison is to the oppression of animals - who most definitely are being dragged behind the truck.

    You can, and probably would, make the argument that animals don’t deserve the same level of moral consideration as LGBTQIA+ humans, but the vegan argument is that non-human animals experience pain and suffering and deserve the same right to life and non-exploitation for the same reason that any human (LGBTQIA+ or not) does.

    MilitantVegan OP ,

    This, thank you.

    Default_Defect ,
    @Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

    How incredibly privileged of you.

    johannesvanderwhales ,

    And I suppose it is up to the organizers of a contest over cheese to define the parameters of what constitutes cheese. But milk seems like a reasonable starting point. It is, after all, a dairy product.

    MilitantVegan OP ,

    Plant-based cheeses are allowed in their competition. They technically got disqualified because one of the ingredients is some type of fat that currently doesn’t have GRAS (generally recognized as safe) status. Except they only made it an issue after the plant-based cheese had won.

    The whole resistance to reinterpreting culinary language is just nothing but anti-competitiveness.

    Leate_Wonceslace , (edited )
    @Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    That actually strikes me as a extremely reasonable justification for disqualifying it. The fact that they only noticed after it won is also not particularly suspicious.

    Edit: how many alt accounts are down voting me for saying that you shouldn’t be allowed to enter in a food with potentially unsafe ingredients?

    MilitantVegan OP ,

    I’ll just copy and paste the same thing I replied with, above:

    Here are more details (and more context is in the article):

    “Someone had tipped off the foundation on something that disqualified Climax, Good Food Foundation Executive Director Sarah Weiner told the Washington Post. The complaint potentially arose from Climax’s use of the ingredient kokum butter, which has not been designated as GRAS (generally regarded as safe) by the Food and Drug Administration. However, Zahn told the Washington Post that the company has replaced the ingredient with cocoa butter, which was the version he said he submitted for the awards (although Weiner contests this).

    The Good Food Awards also didn’t require GRAS certification for all ingredients back when contestants submitted their products — rather, the foundation added this to the rules later on. Zahn claims the Good Food Foundation never reached out to Climax to inform the company of the new requirement, although Weiner told the Washington Post it attempted to. SFGATE could not reach the Good Food Foundation for comment in time for publication.

    “It would have been very easy for them to reach out to us and tell us about the new requirements,” Zahn told SFGATE. “… The thing that’s upsetting to me is that they were kind of unprofessional by changing the rules a week before the event.””

    sfgate.com/…/berkeley-vegan-cheese-good-food-awar…

    ImFresh3x ,

    Maybe they didn’t make it an issue until after because it was under their radar? Once it became the center of attention they might have thought safety of the winner was important? The vast majority of the comments in this thread don’t even seem to know why it was disqualified.

    This whole thread strikes me as odd.

    MilitantVegan OP ,

    Here are more details (and more context is in the article):

    “Someone had tipped off the foundation on something that disqualified Climax, Good Food Foundation Executive Director Sarah Weiner told the Washington Post. The complaint potentially arose from Climax’s use of the ingredient kokum butter, which has not been designated as GRAS (generally regarded as safe) by the Food and Drug Administration. However, Zahn told the Washington Post that the company has replaced the ingredient with cocoa butter, which was the version he said he submitted for the awards (although Weiner contests this).

    The Good Food Awards also didn’t require GRAS certification for all ingredients back when contestants submitted their products — rather, the foundation added this to the rules later on. Zahn claims the Good Food Foundation never reached out to Climax to inform the company of the new requirement, although Weiner told the Washington Post it attempted to. SFGATE could not reach the Good Food Foundation for comment in time for publication.

    “It would have been very easy for them to reach out to us and tell us about the new requirements,” Zahn told SFGATE. “… The thing that’s upsetting to me is that they were kind of unprofessional by changing the rules a week before the event.””

    sfgate.com/…/berkeley-vegan-cheese-good-food-awar…

    FlowVoid ,

    If we can define plant products as milk then we could also define cows as plants. It would make vegan chili contests more interesting.

    MilitantVegan OP ,

    Good luck with that.

    FlowVoid ,

    Likewise, good luck with vegan “cheese”.

    MilitantVegan OP ,

    Clearly it doesn’t need luck - it’s already winning awards despite underhanded tricks.

    FlowVoid , (edited )

    According to the article, they didn’t win.

    EDIT:

    Actually I guess they did, see below.

    MilitantVegan OP ,

    They were slated to win, close enough.

    FlowVoid ,

    They were selected as finalists, but not every finalist is an award winner.

    MilitantVegan OP ,

    No, they had advance warning that they were the winners. That victory was stolen from them based on rules that were added after the fact.

    FlowVoid , (edited )

    Hmm, OK turns out you’re right that they were slated to win.

    nufanman21 , to nottheonion in Wall Street Journal complains about workers using their sick days

    Typical “back in my day” garbage. Why would you even want people to come in and spread their sickness? Wouldn’t that cause even more lost production time?

    correcthorsedickbatterystaple ,

    ...not if everyone is afraid to use sick days / lose wages / repercussions from management / yadda yadda yadda

    BenGFHC ,

    Regardless of whether they are present or not, if their productivity is down the drain because they can't focus or are in pain, inefficiency rises, output and profits fall.

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