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ATDA , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

When I said I wanted Forza in the car this isn’t exactly what I was gaming for.

DarkSurferZA , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

I actually think this is a great idea. Hear me out.

They fit the hardware that you can’t touch while the Motor plan is active, but when the right to repair legislation kicks in, and we start debating whether we actually own the cars we buy, all these scumbag practices will mean that any car outside of the Motorplan should be able to run cracked OS’s and everyone gets free BMW features on their cars after motorplan expires.

I vote they keep going for a bit, then they get their asses handed to them with out of maintenance plan service options and 3rd party features.

Buttons ,
@Buttons@programming.dev avatar

If all the cars are the same price I’ll buy the one with the upgrade options and then not pay for them.

barsquid ,

I’ll buy the one without an internet connection to be checking if I am subscribed or not.

Tattorack , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

You wouldn’t download a Car.

Yes. Yes I would.

TBi , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

I’m never buying a BMW again. I had an electric i3 which had an inverter (charger) failure. BMW wanted €12k to fix it. Thankfully an independent offered to do it for 4K. But BMW still wanted 3K just to plug it in and authenticate the new block. Nothing else, just “bless” it. Made the fix cost-prohibitive so we just had to scrap the car. The battery, which most people fear, was fine on this 8 year old car.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod , (edited )
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Luxury car dealers do that all the time. The Volvo dealership quoted me $2800 to get my car to pass inspection, about $1500 of which was just tires.

I got a set of tires from Costco for like $800, and then an independent mechanic said everything else was fine and charged me $100 for inspection and emissions.

TBi ,

I know, but in the past the independent dealers didn’t have to deal directly with BMW for fixes. Now with all the authentication needed you can’t just get a replacement part from anywhere any more. Similar to how Apple locked down its batteries, BMW is doing the same.

bitjunkie ,

They can lock down their revenue potential, fine by me

Incel_Inside ,

I see many more Teslas on the streets than BMWs in my country and in my city.

And I live in Europe.

Fuck you BMW, who the fuck are you and where you go:)))

barsquid ,

Even 4k sounds utterly insane for an inverter, but maybe I am wrong on that. Insane. Yeah I won’t be buying a BMW ever.

TBi ,

Inverter + install + testing. It’s deep in the car so a lot has to come out (I was told).

minorkeys , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

Man, never thought I’d see the day that after market car crackz become an industry.

MonkeMischief ,

Wouldn’t mind those sweet tunes coming back though.

We’ve come full circle to downloading and running things with titles like:

“BMWaReZ_UnSUSSer+HeetSeeter-v4.20.69.appimage”

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

And can a car your rooted pass periodic inspection?

thermal_shock ,

keep original backup, restore, restore new backup afterwards.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

😎

uriel238 ,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Hire a third party to do your tune-ups, specificly one that is jailbreak and hack friendly.

captain_oni ,

Soon, coming to a piracy site near you: [RZR] BMW i3 crack - Full (Heated seats + suspension + AC unlock + headlight fixes)1.05b.rar

Incel_Inside ,

:))))) Amen!

thermal_shock ,

carwarez, websites that look like they came from the matrix with magnet links and mega links.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

Automatic headlight dimming, only €82 per year.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,
Emerald , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

“The pressure eased off a little when they ended subscriptions tied to heated seats, but the Internet rage machine has come back for vengeance.”

lol. It’s not vengeance or rage, its simply the fact that making someone pay for something they already own is dumb.

SendMePhotos ,
Mwa , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

Bmw slowly becoming a really bad car

Emerald ,

Bad Motor Vehicle

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

real

Incel_Inside ,

Slowly?

Someonelol , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)
@Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This is why I don’t mourn Western car companies getting slaughtered by Chinese EVs. They can’t really provide value by nickel and diming customers with subscriptions for components already installed on their privacy-invading overpriced cars.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

One of the reasons electric cars were able to outcompete ICE-specialized companies is because they undercut on all sorts of nice to haves like buttons and pieces that they forgo by using a screen, wifi, updates, beta testing.

But they don’t pass on those cost savings to you. They are even sold as luxury products. They even take the carbon credits. That’s bullshit if you are serious about mainstream adoption.

Miaou ,

ICEs are doing all of that shit now too. The truth is ICEs are fucking overpriced and manufacturers didn’t want to lose money.

Cheesus ,

You do realize all car companies do scummy things? BYD along with others uses parts serialization so you can’t install any parts unless BYD installs it for you an updates the software to take the new serial number.

Someonelol ,
@Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I didn’t realize they were like Apple. Is there a source you have I could check out?

yogurt ,

I think you’re thinking of Xiaomi, Louis Rossman did a video assuming they were doing Apple-style serialization but all it was doing was blocking installation of self-driving if the headlights weren’t standard. It wasn’t DRMing brake pads or preventing buying headlights from a junkyard, there was a functional reason.

Wildfathom9 , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

When you need fitgirl to help you with your car.

sunzu2 ,

Fuxking legend

nobleshift ,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

Or an Empress. Just stay off the Telegram channel FFS.

Wildfathom9 ,

Idk, it’s almost entertaining watching her lose her mind.

nobleshift ,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

If I want drama I’ll get a Husky… Otherwise I’ll pass.

Wildfathom9 ,

Sure, but a husky will tear up your couch.

nobleshift ,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

But I’ll still love it.

Gsus4 , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

Got it, don’t buy cars built after 2010.

TheMightyCanuck ,
@TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works avatar

Probably safe up to 2016 as long as it’s not luxury brand

SreudianFlip ,

One of our cars is a 2016 GM and I just unscrewed the cell antenna instead of ripping out the cell module. Tracking disabled, or at least unreliable. The subscription nav is useless and easy to ignore. I would like to figure out how to prevent the siriusxm ads built into the infotainment system, still.

I look forward to better infotainment hacks down the road.

Evrala , (edited )

Import something old and fun! Cars from smaller countries have lower mileage and can be cheap because they aren’t as valuable as a comparable car from the US. It isn’t hard to find a 25 year old car with about 50,000 miles on it.

JDM cars are especially nice now because of how weak the YEN is. Look outside the popular JDM cars and there are tons of things with easy to find parts for dirt cheap.

Or hell, get a not top trim of a popular model, and you can get something cheap. Want a station wagon built on the same platform as the Nissan Skyline? The Automatic Stageas are cheaper because tuners don’t want them because they’re an automatic and don’t have the world famous RB25 engine.

Nissan Rasheens with the 1500cc engine are easy to maintain and have an engine that was used in some American cars, get the first true AWD CUV for about $5000 plus import fees.

Another cheap option is a Toyota Caldina, get a reliable awd station wagon with a nice interior for 7 or 8 grand including import fees. (Avoid the 2000ish GTT version with a turbo, turbo manifold is prone to warping on that engine and said manifold is hard to find in the US as those engines generally didnt sell in the US)
Edit: looks like Caldinas have gone up in price recently.

kalpol ,

Where are you finding things like this? What’s parts availability like?

Evrala , (edited )

Carfromjapan.com has the best search features I’ve found, once you know what you’re looking for www.goo-net-exchange.com is also nice because they translate the car condition sheets.

Parts availability depends on the car. For the Rasheen for example most of the engine parts can be found at any parts store for the 1500 and 2000 cc engine versions cause those engines were also in American cars though the 2000cc engine is far more common. I’ve also found English websites that are easy to order just about any parts you want for a Rasheen including body panels.

Amazon is also nice for finding parts, I was able to find parts for a SR18DE engine on Amazon and that engine was never sold in America. So you can just buy the parts yourself then take the car to a local mechanic for the work.

Once you find something that interests you just Google that car name parts and you can usually find someone talking online about how owning that car has been for them.

The best listings also have video of the car running so you can hear if something is off with it.

n3cr0 ,

Not necessarily. My 2015 SEAT (for folks in the North America: That’s basically Volkswagen) is one of the latest cars that do not completely fuck you over. TPMS is passive, so you don’t need expensive sensors. You can also update the maps on your own (OK, here they pull you over if you don’t know the simple trick). Parts are also cheap.

MadBigote ,

I own a Seat Ibiza 2021. To me it’s one of the last Ibiza to give value for your money. Totally reliable vehicles.

orrk ,

no, SEAT IS VW

Incel_Inside ,

👍

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

big oil licking their lips and nodding their heads

Gsus4 , (edited )
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

Are there any electric cars that aren’t glorified smartphones on wheels? Something a grandma can drive without ending up in the wrong menu.

IphtashuFitz ,

My wife used to drive an electric Smart Car for her work. It had a range of 60 miles (less in the winter), and she called it a glorified golf cart. But it was perfect for the 20 or so miles she’d drive each day.

spongebue ,

The Bolt is ok. It has a screen and Android Auto and stuff, but I only use it for Android Auto navigation and energy stats when I’m curious. For pretty much everything else, there are good ol’ fashioned buttons.

Oh, it does have OnStar and some stuff associated with that, but GM discontinued the worst of it after a class action lawsuit.

Incel_Inside ,

Got it, thanks

Iloveyurianime , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

We are pirating car suspension now holy shit

matthewmercury ,

You wouldn’t download a car

atrielienz ,

I would actually. A 1967 Shelby Cobra kit car if I had a choice.

StarshotJohn ,
@StarshotJohn@lemmy.world avatar

Lmk if you find out how

HappyRedditRefugee ,

M2, pls

friend_of_satan ,

You wouldn’t download a configuration profile for your cars suspension!

sunzu2 ,

People stealing owners' property will be sent to the gulag!

Incel_Inside ,

TPB go brrrrrrrrrr

Incel_Inside ,

Brick it by bios update:)))

wreckedcarzz ,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

This sure as fuck isn’t the best timeline, but it does have its moments

Incel_Inside ,

😂😂😂 good ol’ pirate bay

MehBlah , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

In theory most subscription services provide additional content as time goes on. This only provides a capability that already exists on the car.

curry ,

Scummy practices that should be outlawed, like retail stores raising prices just before a big sale so they can slap “80% off!” on their stuff.

Taalen ,

EU is at least trying to do something about that. As of last year stores are required to display the cheapest price they’ve had for an item in the past three months when they have something on sale. Not all stores comply, and of course they try to get around these by the usual shenanigans, like basically the same product being available from the manufacturer with two slightly different item codes.

VantaBrandon , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

People act like subscriptions are a new thing for cars, and somehow mentally gloss over the fact that they have to physically go in to renew their energy subscription weekly, not to mention the quarterly, and bi-annual subscriptions for oil and various maintenance respectively.

Everything has always been a subscription, you’re just a frog that’s well done.

Don’t get me started on your road subscription.

MehBlah ,

That kind of mental gymnastics gives me a headache.

NocturnalEngineer ,

The key differences is utilities you’re paying for the generation & maintenance of key resources - without gas, water and electricity we wouldn’t be able to survive. Road tax you’re helping to pay for the renewal and upkeep of the road surface (among other local services)… Left alone the road will degrade & will become unusable.

Suspension as a Service is milking what should be a perpetual cost when purchasing the vehicle. If the hardware is already installed, it should be available for the owner to use. They’re not paying for the upkeep of the vehicle, or even ensuring the suspension remains functional… All they’ve done is placed the function behind a pay wall. They can argue they’re maintaining the software, but it’s utter bullshit and I hate the fact this has become a norm within B2B (for example network appliances)

At least with luxury subscriptions such as Spotify, Netflix, NYT, etc you’re getting access to their content, which they renew. Here you get access to something you should have had access to from day 1.

Frozyre ,

I think what hurts my brain besides the babbling, is the lack of citations.

Are you just trying to sound smart and in-the-know? Bruh, sources matter for such bold claims.

shani66 ,

You just blow in from stupid town?

atrielienz ,

Today I learned upkeep of heavy machinery is considered a subscription service.

I bet you think drinking water is a subscription service too.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

I bet you think drinking water is a subscription service too.

That probably isn’t the example you want to use. I pay a monthly fee to get clean water pumped to my apartment, as do most people.

Zink ,

I’m getting vibes of “Yet you participate in society. Curious!”

ColdWater ,
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

Gas oil need money to drill and refind from sources and car suspension does not, it maybe need to get a check up or replace once in a long while and not every months

sunzu2 ,

Bootlicker spotted

suzune , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

I wish that someone sues when something breaks in the car that you didn’t opt in for.

And… yet better, they get sued when something breaks that is in connection with a paid service and someone suspects that it’s because they paid part caused it.

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