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Mwa , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

Bmw slowly becoming a really bad car

Emerald ,

Bad Motor Vehicle

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

real

Incel_Inside ,

Slowly?

Emerald , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

“The pressure eased off a little when they ended subscriptions tied to heated seats, but the Internet rage machine has come back for vengeance.”

lol. It’s not vengeance or rage, its simply the fact that making someone pay for something they already own is dumb.

SendMePhotos ,
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

Automatic headlight dimming, only €82 per year.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In ,
minorkeys , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

Man, never thought I’d see the day that after market car crackz become an industry.

MonkeMischief ,

Wouldn’t mind those sweet tunes coming back though.

We’ve come full circle to downloading and running things with titles like:

“BMWaReZ_UnSUSSer+HeetSeeter-v4.20.69.appimage”

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

And can a car your rooted pass periodic inspection?

thermal_shock ,

keep original backup, restore, restore new backup afterwards.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

😎

uriel238 ,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Hire a third party to do your tune-ups, specificly one that is jailbreak and hack friendly.

captain_oni ,

Soon, coming to a piracy site near you: [RZR] BMW i3 crack - Full (Heated seats + suspension + AC unlock + headlight fixes)1.05b.rar

Incel_Inside ,

:))))) Amen!

thermal_shock ,

carwarez, websites that look like they came from the matrix with magnet links and mega links.

TBi , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

I’m never buying a BMW again. I had an electric i3 which had an inverter (charger) failure. BMW wanted €12k to fix it. Thankfully an independent offered to do it for 4K. But BMW still wanted 3K just to plug it in and authenticate the new block. Nothing else, just “bless” it. Made the fix cost-prohibitive so we just had to scrap the car. The battery, which most people fear, was fine on this 8 year old car.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod , (edited )
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Luxury car dealers do that all the time. The Volvo dealership quoted me $2800 to get my car to pass inspection, about $1500 of which was just tires.

I got a set of tires from Costco for like $800, and then an independent mechanic said everything else was fine and charged me $100 for inspection and emissions.

TBi ,

I know, but in the past the independent dealers didn’t have to deal directly with BMW for fixes. Now with all the authentication needed you can’t just get a replacement part from anywhere any more. Similar to how Apple locked down its batteries, BMW is doing the same.

bitjunkie ,

They can lock down their revenue potential, fine by me

Incel_Inside ,

I see many more Teslas on the streets than BMWs in my country and in my city.

And I live in Europe.

Fuck you BMW, who the fuck are you and where you go:)))

barsquid ,

Even 4k sounds utterly insane for an inverter, but maybe I am wrong on that. Insane. Yeah I won’t be buying a BMW ever.

TBi ,

Inverter + install + testing. It’s deep in the car so a lot has to come out (I was told).

Tattorack , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

You wouldn’t download a Car.

Yes. Yes I would.

DarkSurferZA , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

I actually think this is a great idea. Hear me out.

They fit the hardware that you can’t touch while the Motor plan is active, but when the right to repair legislation kicks in, and we start debating whether we actually own the cars we buy, all these scumbag practices will mean that any car outside of the Motorplan should be able to run cracked OS’s and everyone gets free BMW features on their cars after motorplan expires.

I vote they keep going for a bit, then they get their asses handed to them with out of maintenance plan service options and 3rd party features.

Buttons ,
@Buttons@programming.dev avatar

If all the cars are the same price I’ll buy the one with the upgrade options and then not pay for them.

barsquid ,

I’ll buy the one without an internet connection to be checking if I am subscribed or not.

ATDA , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

When I said I wanted Forza in the car this isn’t exactly what I was gaming for.

uriel238 , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’d hoped that BMW (and the rest of the automotive industry) would have learned from the subscription heated seats debacle.

Oh well, no Beemers for me.

Incel_Inside ,

We already pay shitty spare parts subscription for the shitty cars they make.

BMW dances in bare ass in front of Chinese erect cock.

BearOfaTime , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

🖕BMW

michaelmrose , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

Why is this bad in a nutshell.

A) The only way to control access to this feature is to lock down and phone home. If it doesn’t phone home then when someone figures out a way around your present security its possible for someone to sell said features forever. Such DRM could hurt repeatability by accident or more likely on purpose.

B) There is no reason to fail open so even if BMW is still chugging when they stop taking your cars phone calls and retires those servers you get no more feature.

C) The amount spent over the lifespan of a car wherein people opt to take care of their valuable asset absolutely dwarfs the cost able to be extracted up front

D) This functionality opens the door to a hacker not just turning off your features but turning off your car. This includes state sponsored attackers and people who are just generally pissed off at the geopolitical actions of your country of origin. If you are in the US that is a lot of fucking people.

E) Product segmentation on average increases the amount you can extract per user. Allowing segmentation by features turn on or off in software by the month it allows far greater segmentation with no reasonable expectation that the baseline will be lower. This means the lowest end user of a model pays the same for even less. The median user pays somewhat more and the max user pays a LOT more.

F) This means wholly paid for used cars now come with a car payment to the manufacturer.

Now there are half a hundred people on the boards of these companies and 338M of us in the US. 449M in the EU. There is no reason to allow this misfeature to continue to be a thing in our markets. If automakers don’t like those restrictions any one of them can opt to most of the most valuable markets in the world and find their fortunes exclusively in China while their competitors eat their former marketshare.

ILikeBoobies , (edited )

C and e don’t sound like bad things

At least not bad enough for the company not to do it

michaelmrose ,

All of it is a reason for people to vote not to allow it. This can be accomplished federally or via initiatives in states. If a handful states comprising 30-50% of the pop wont allow it then it will be dead.

ILikeBoobies ,

Seems like forcing liability would be more successful

LordCrom , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

I can easily foresee the drm services or servers being shutdown, like the Microsoft music server…most you bought can no longer be used if moved.

Eventually they will “retire” this model and shut down servers. Making the car maybe driveable, but won’t have stuff you paid for I bet.

Plus, eventually someone will unlock this with a hacked car software patch anyway.

KillerWhale ,

Insurance company’s will start testing for hacks and denying coverage.

Incel_Inside , (edited ) to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

We start again with a strange Germany in Europe:)

Germany; don’t do this please…

rimjob_rainer ,

Just don’t buy it

tabular ,
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

That strategy repeatedly fails, companies in the same market will see it extracting more profit and start doing it too.

rimjob_rainer ,

Then don’t buy their products either.

tabular ,
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

Just don’t buy any car if they all do this in the future? People need a better answer, don’t find comfort in “just don’t buy it”.

rimjob_rainer ,

How about you just stop consoooming. There will always be cars without this and if there aren’t: there are more sustainable modes of transportation anyways.

madcaesar , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

We need a FOSS car…

InternetUser2012 , to technology in BMW Adaptive Suspension Can Be Added via Subscription. Suspension As A Service (SAAS)

Anyone that buys a car that has shit like this is a fool.

x00z ,
@x00z@lemmy.world avatar

The article implies nobody even knew it already had this functionality. I’m sure the customers weren’t told either.

InternetUser2012 ,

I’ve heard for years that BMW was doing shit like this. Heated seats is what it started with. Toyota did it with remote start but I think they backed down after the outrage.

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